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That's why I said they were angry and disgusted by them. As far as Lena is concerned, if you choose for her to completely blank Axel out, it's clear you've chosen for her to hate him. I just don't think it's a fixed position when the game starts.

I hope she brings Gillian back. It seems the obvious counterpoint, to Lena's relationship with Axel. I'm not sure Gillian is Mike's girlfriend, as a lot of people believe. But it would definitely create quite a lot of drama, within an Ian/Lena relationship, if they were both cheating on each other with Mike and Gillian. And doubly so, if Lena is cheating on Ian with Axel as well. That would give added drama, because Mike and Axel both despise each other.
Yeah u can create a real messy story if that is the case perfect for players who want to create a chaotic story
 

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So, i started this game and is really good but with so many chars, anyone have a list who are the love interests for the 2 mc? I get the feeling the game tries to push the 2 mc together but i dont really want that.
Ian: Lena, Holly, Cindy, Alison, Cherry, Emma, Minerva.
Options that are saved for the later portion of the game and don't have enough content to count for a romance, yet: Bad Jessica, Gillian, Ivy, Louise

Lena: Ian, Robert, Axel, Mike, Jeremy, Seymour, Stan. Holly, Louise, Ivy if you go bi.
Options that are saved for the later portion of the game and don't have enough content to count for a romance, yet: Mark, Marcel, Jack, Perry(?), Tom, John. Emma, Eli if you go bi.
 
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markel1000

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So, i started this game and is really good but with so many chars, anyone have a list who are the love interests for the 2 mc? I get the feeling the game tries to push the 2 mc together but i dont really want that.
Let me break it down for u for ian the lis known are: Alison, Cindy, Emma, Cherry, Lena, and Holly. Hookups for Ian are Minerva, Jess, and Louise u have to be on Lenas path for this. Lenas are more hook up base unless u get her in a relationship with Ian or with Stan. The list goes: Ian, robert, Marcel, Holly, Ivy, Axel, Stan, Mike, Seymour, Louise, Jearmy, and jack.
 
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DeemLeem12

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Let Lena have the fake redhead Louise. Ian will have real redhead Gillian instead. It seems like a fair trade between them. They can have a relationship while each having a side redhead bitch.
 

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So, i started this game and is really good but with so many chars, anyone have a list who are the love interests for the 2 mc? I get the feeling the game tries to push the 2 mc together but i dont really want that.
Ian and Lena don't have to end up together. They're going to be friends, but not necessarily lovers or partners.

Ian's potential love interests and fuck buddies are Lena, Holly, Alison, Cindy, Emma, Cherry, Jessica, Minerva, and in the future Ivy. It's possible for Ian to have sex with Louise, in a threesome with Lena, and I think it's likely she'll eventually be another fuck buddy option for him. He may also possibly be able to get back together with his ex-girlfriend Gillian, but Eva is yet to say whether that will happen.

Lena's potential love interests and fuck buddies are Ian, Mike, Robert, Axel, Jeremy, Marcel, Jack, Mark, Ivy, Holly, Louise and probably in the future Seymour, Billy, Emma, Jessica, Eli and John.

Bear in mind, it's not possible for Ian and Lena to get together with all these people in a single playthrough, as some of them are alts for each other.
 
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Lenas are more hook up base unless u get her in a relationship with Ian or with Stan. The list goes: Ian, robert, Marcel, Holly, Ivy, Axel, Stan, Mike, Seymour, Louise, Jearmy, and jack.
Lena having a hookup phase would be boring without a threesome. How many chapters are left till the game is finished?
 
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In my ideal world EK would make one release for each new lewd scene, but more frequently obviously, and carrying on forever.
 

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That's why I said they were angry and disgusted by them. As far as Lena is concerned, if you choose for her to completely blank Axel out, it's clear you've chosen for her to hate him. I just don't think it's a fixed position when the game starts.
It is the fixed position when the game starts. It's why Lena left Axel in the first place, and it's her starting viewpoint. You can have Lena relapse into dependency on Axel, by choosing to activate her desire flag and by improving relationship score, but note these are changes from what her position is like at th start of the game.

Lena canonicaly starts with no desire for Axel, her opinion of him is 0, and her internal monologues are all about her wanting to never see him again. Not "but he's soooo hot, i'm getting all wet".
 

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It is the fixed position when the game starts. It's why Lena left Axel in the first place, and it's her starting viewpoint. You can have Lena relapse into dependency on Axel, by choosing to activate her desire flag and by improving relationship score, but note these are changes from what her position is like at th start of the game.

Lena canonicaly starts with no desire for Axel, her opinion of him is 0, and her internal monologues are all about her wanting to never see him again. Not "but he's soooo hot, i'm getting all wet".
What you're talking about, is what Lena 'believes' to be her position. But it's clear that what she 'believes' is not necessarily true. She might 'believe' that she hates Axel, and she might tell everybody that she hates him. But the reality is, that she doesn't know her own mind, until the player decides that for her.

After the second meeting with Axel, when him and Robert fight. If Lena calls Ivy, she tells Lena, that it's clear Lena hasn't moved on from her relationship with Axel. She is very clearly undecided as to her position with Axel, regardless of what the relationship stats may say. On the cuck route, it's possible to have almost a zero relationship score, and still be in a loving relationship. So those stats don't really mean anything at all.
 

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What you're talking about, is what Lena 'believes' to be her position.
I'm talking about Lena's position encoded by mechanics of the game. If you're going to just disregard it and assign your own preference to her with nothing but "she believes this but she's wrong and she actually has no stance whatsoever" then this is pointless debate.

Also, "she believes this is her position" as implication that's not the actual case is pretty much sophistry -- the belief is what determines one's position. If i believe Robert is a piece of shit worthy of nothing but scorn then that is my position on Robert and not "something i think but i actually don't".

But the reality is, that she doesn't know her own mind, until the player decides that for her.
No, in reality Lena does have position which the player can influence and overturn with their choices. Just like Holly has her own initial mindset which can be influenced and changed.

Note that it would be just as easy for the game to start with Lena's desire for Axel to be active, and only to be deactivated if she chooses to destroy his pictures (or retained if she doesn't) The outcome would be the same as far as Lena/Axel is concerned, and it'd be a better match for this idea that Lena is supposedly conflicted about Axel. So the fact this is not the case and Lena starts without such urge likely reflects what is her initial, actual stance on this matter.

If Lena calls Ivy, she tells Lena, that it's clear Lena hasn't moved on from her relationship with Axel.
Just because Ivy says that doesn't mean this is objective truth -- Ivy has shown herself to be manipulative, and there's speculations she's actively working to get Lena back with Axel, either because she believes this is actually good for Lena, or due to more nefarious/selfish motives.
 
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