Leongen43

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Maybe and only if Ian half-asses his relationship with Cindy. If he is devoted and choses the smart and correct choices, Cindy has no reason to leave him.
The only person that Cindy has to be loyal to is Wade and if she does not do so with him we cannot ask or expect Cindy to be loyal since the relationship they may have is a cheating one and it may happen that she has a parallel relationship with Axel as well. :unsure:
 

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The only person that Cindy has to be loyal to is Wade and if she does not do so with him we cannot ask or expect Ian to be loyal since the relationship they may have is a cheating one and it may happen that she has a parallel relationship with Axel as well. :unsure:
If Ian treats her well, she would have no reason to leave him, in contrast to Wade. You can totally be disloyal to one person and loyal to the next person, since these persons and circumstances can differ hugely. Of course, the habit of keeping to cheat is a thing and can happen, but it doesn't has to.

You are laser focused on Ian getting cucked by Axel. It is a scenario that can happen in one way or another, since why else bring back the toxic scary ex, its a staple in porn and hentai. But ORS main feature are the many routes and possibilities, so wholesome vanilla happy end routes will also happen. Eva won't needlessly scare away half their audience just to satisfy another half. Not when the game is designed to have many routes and variations to please all sides.
 
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If Ian treats her well, she would have no reason to leave him, in contrast to Wade. You can totally be disloyal to one person and loyal to the next person, since these persons and circumstances can differ hugely. Of course, the habit of keeping to cheat is a thing and can happen, but it doesn't has to.

You are laser focused on Ian getting cucked by Axel. It is a scenario that can happen in one way or another, since why else bring back the toxic scary ex, its a staple in porn and hentai. But ORS main feature are the many routes and possibilities, so wholesome vanilla happy end routes will also happen. Eva won't needlessly scare away half their audience just to satisfy another half. Not when the game is designed to have many routes and variations to please all sides.
I understand your point, but Cindy's reality is that she must be divided into many parts by her feelings because when she is still unfaithful she still loves Wade, the feelings she has for Ian are strong but not decisive that's why she still doesn't want to break up her relationship and Axel is like the door that when you open it you can enter that world that fascinates you just by seeing it, that's why you have so much attraction for him in addition to the physique that he has, so I hope you understand that it is not as simple as you. Do you think there are nuances in a relationship that you have to understand :unsure:
 
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How large a chapter 'feels' depends on many things. I don't play multiple paths simultaneously, so most updates to me feel shorter than they are.

Reused content/scene variants are typical, especially in 2dcg titles. Illustrating the variant scenes in ORS isn't easy since it's not a simple swap. Although, it's easier making them than tracing and drawing shit from scratch again. As for the text/code, a quick comparison:

Chapter 1.rpy: length - 340,303; lines - 7498
Chapter 10.rpy: length - 1,830,998; lines - 35,720
It's not the scene renders that make development time increase between chapters. It's the variables in the narratives you have to tie together at some point. Baldur's Gate 3 is a great example. They kept adding so many choices and variables to the point they were running out of time and extending their planned release windows when working on Act 3. You either cut planned content to not delay releases or keep delaying it to include as much of the planned content as possible without causing a riot from the fans. Larian did the former and released it knowing their core fanbase was used to them releasing their game "kinda complete" and then make the game content complete over post-release updates. I have observed some eroge devs do the same by adding quests and scenes post-"full release" via content updates. But that also means some of these "bonus" content might not be fully incorporated into the core narrative and might act as side romps that are skippable. Even Eva does this sometimes, though usually between "alpha" and "final" builds of each chapter instead.
 

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Maybe and only if Ian half-asses his relationship with Cindy. If he is devoted and choses the smart and correct choices, Cindy has no reason to leave him.
In that case, Cindy must be the character with worst personality. She cuck his bf with MC because he didnt treat her like she wanted and now MC needs to do everything perfect or she will cuck him too.
 
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I don't understand what this fixation with Cindy cucking Ian is. It is as Leongen43 said, the only person she has to be faithful to is her boyfriend and she is not. Also, because she might have some sexy time with Axel she is a bitch? Look who's talking!:ROFLMAO: You're the one she is cheating on her boyfriend, YOUR friend with. Say she does get with Axel, if you were just playing around with her why should you care who she sleeps with? If you were hoping for a serious relationship, hey you're the one trying to date a cheater. I mean...what were you expecting :ROFLMAO:
 

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I don't understand what this fixation with Cindy cucking Ian is. It is as Leongen43 said, the only person she has to be faithful to is her boyfriend and she is not. Also, because she might have some sexy time with Axel she is a bitch? Look who's talking!:ROFLMAO: You're the one she is cheating on her boyfriend, YOUR friend with. Say she does get with Axel, if you were just playing around with her why should you care who she sleeps with? If you were hoping for a serious relationship, hey you're the one trying to date a cheater. I mean...what were you expecting :ROFLMAO:
Some Cindy fans think shes pure or something:whistle:
Some people like us can see shes a witch,a succubus who only brings problems and drama.
 

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In that case, Cindy must be the character with worst personality. She cuck his bf with MC because he didnt treat her like she wanted and now MC needs to do everything perfect or she will cuck him too.
Cindy is characteriszed from the get go as a spoiled diva and being high maintainance. No one isn't really into her because of her wholesome personality.

I don't understand what this fixation with Cindy cucking Ian is. It is as Leongen43 said, the only person she has to be faithful to is her boyfriend and she is not. Also, because she might have some sexy time with Axel she is a bitch? Look who's talking!:ROFLMAO: You're the one she is cheating on her boyfriend, YOUR friend with. Say she does get with Axel, if you were just playing around with her why should you care who she sleeps with? If you were hoping for a serious relationship, hey you're the one trying to date a cheater. I mean...what were you expecting :ROFLMAO:
Making a girl cheat for you is a power fantasy, you come out on top. A girl cheating on you on another guy makes you the fool and is a unpleasant fantasy - unless that self-loathing is exactly what cucks and ntr fans are into.
Hence the double standard on Ian triumphing over Wade is "good" while Ian losing Cindy to Axel is "bad". Same situations, but different perspectives.
Of course, most are aware of this, almost no one here would respect Ian if he was real, the slimmer of an argument would be that Cindy and Wade is technicaly over and Ian should've waited a bit until they break up officially. But wild emotions are a thing.


Some Cindy fans think shes pure or something:whistle:
Really? Can you quote someone in this thread that said something to that that effect?
 

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Cindy is like the desperate wife where the only romance she sees in movies or series, Ian and Axel are escape valves for her, I guess Axel's valve is harder for Cindy, right? :unsure: :KEK:
Cindy isn't married to Wade, the relationship is one year old. While the potential model career has a fantastic element in it that entices her, she also appreciates that Ian does very basic things like listening and caring for her, or taking her out on clubs or galleries and photo sessions for her career. Meanwhile Wade fails to acompany her and complains about it, he doesn't want to go out. Not a justification, but very compelling explanation why Cindy ended up cheating on him.
 

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there should be a route where ian saves both emma and cindy from the sad sack losers wade and perry
There is. You can ignore Cindy/Wade so that they break up automatically or take Cindy yourself. And with Emma, you simply don't encourage Perry to go after her and he doesn't do anything automatically.
 
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There is. You can ignore Cindy/Wade so that they break up automatically or take Cindy yourself. And with Emma, you simply don't encourage Perry to go after her and he doesn't do anything automatically.
We all know that Perry is a fucking loser and if we don't hold his hand he will never do shit with his life, his father should pay Ian to get Perry's fat ass off the couch. :unsure: :poop::rolleyes:
 
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