forthewins

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Finally played chapter 7. I was waiting until the beta came out, since the idea of playing with a lot of typos and some bugs didn't sound sound very appealing to me. But then I still encountered typos and bugs.

For those that played both the alpha and the beta, how much better was the beta? If they aren't that different I won't make myself wait next time.
 

forthewins

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My first thoughts on my first run through of chapter 7:

First thing, this is will be an interesting experience as this was my first time having to wait for more ORS, as I got into it after chapter 6 had been released. And now I have three playthroughs going. My original is where I basically pick whatever I feel like doing. (I tend to naturally pick more "good" choices than "bad" ones, though I do stray for that some, i.e. I've been into Cindy from the start, so I've never turned her down an opportunity to hit on her despite it not being the right thing to do to my friend. Also I slept with Louise the first time as Lena, but then started turning her down as she became so clingy.).

Then I have my lust route where I pretty much slut it up with both characters, and also focus on the physical attribute which I expect will lead to Ian being an awesome fighter and Lena having pole dancing / erotic model (or porn star?) careers possible. I also use this to focus on characters I didn't the first time, like Alison this time instead of Cherry, and this time I forced Lena to not reject the douche bag Robert immediately. (Sorry, Lena. Even on my lust route I couldn't sit through much of this!) Also I've brought Axel back into the fold with her, as the first time I just shut him out completely.

And then finally I have a pure route, where Lena and Ian are very faithful to each other, except for also including Holly whenever we can. Also I focus on the Wits attribute and book / song writing on this route, looking to give both of them their dream jobs.

It will be interesting to go through the content every time in each separate route. Particularly because I can already see some potential avenues that won't be covered in any of these routes, even though they're very different. (i.e. I've never attended the photoshoot with Cindy and then came clean to Wade that I was there, as on each route I'm either seriously perusing Cindy or I'm not, in which case I wouldn't leave my friends to go with her to the bar in the first place. Maybe I'll need another route where I do weird random things.)

Okay, finally to this chapter. It was shorter than I'd like it to be, but that will probably always be the case.

I expected us to get it on with Cindy in this chapter, if you chose to go along with that. I thought it'd possibly actually be at the birthday party, and also thought we may run into Lena there.

Getting caught at the end was not how I thought Eva would take this, largely because with the route I was on lead me to believe something else would happen. I went out for drinks with Axel, told him I was dating Lena as I thought it'd be worse if he found out later, and then Axel watched me run after Cindy. I 100% would expect him to follow us in this scenario and then take pictures of us to show Lena that we're sleeping around on her. That may still happen, but combining that with Jeremy and Ivy seeing us would be a weird combo. They probably wouldn't do both. But on this timeline it does seem kind of out of character for Axel to not follow us knowing everything he knows (including us being flirty with Cindy at the photoshoot).

More thoughts to come as I go through it some more and catch up on the thread.
 
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okay if while importing i have two saves of the same name then should i rename them or replace them with the new oones? any idea ?
 

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okay if while importing i have two saves of the same name then should i rename them or replace them with the new oones? any idea ?
If you don't want to replace the existing save file then create a fake save file in new slot, rename the file you want to import with fake save file name and replace it.
 

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Thanks for taking the time to post this.

I don't suppose there's somewhere, with ease of reading, that goes into all of these character variables in the game and speculates/state what they're used for?
Don't like overpromoting myself, but you can check out my walkthrough. It's free, and it has the "Recap" section where the variables used in a particular chapter are explained.

Ren'Py code (.rpy files) is pretty human readable with a good text editor, if you want to play with that you can check the unren tool. EvaKiss doesn't seem to place comments on the code that gets released with the game's builds so speculating what the variables do is mostly a game of checking their names and where/how they are used.
Hey, I like your enthusiasm and knowledge about the game. Glad to see people with similar passion.
By the way, Eva does put comments in the code. It's just the unren decompiler isn't able to read them from compiled rpyc scripts for some reason and removes them. I discovered it when I compared how the source rpy script looked vs unren-decompiled rpy script, and the latter had all the commentary deleted. The script that contains the info about meaningful variables is "master-script".
 

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They are not really used for much yet, but Holly has 2 non-standard variables (she also has 2 standard ones measuring affection and romantic interest from Ian/Lena).

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Sorry for replying to this again, but I only skimmed over it yesterday and found some points interesting to comment on now.
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You mentioned that there are mostly changes in the early game, what scenes check for these variables so far?
Does the Holly love scenes with Ian in ch. 7 make any use of them?
 
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Sneak peek: Alison next outfit:BootyTime:

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It's just a joke btw:HideThePain: It's kinda funny that Alison sees some sort of competition with Lena and that Ian can decide her wardrobe. It's also hot tbh:p
Next, Ian will offhandedly mention that he likes seeing her naked while doing their bedroom thing, prompting her to adopt a nudist lifestyle.
 

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Sorry for replying to this again, but I only skimmed over it yesterday and found some points interesting to comment on now.
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You mentioned that there are mostly changes in the early game, what scenes check for these variables so far?

I think it's noticeable that both of the most encouraging choices from Ian and Lena before the pole dancing choice are both locked behind having the right knowledge stat. I wonder if that suggests that non-poledancing Holly will only become a happy Holly if either Lena or Ian are being played to have a high total in that stat. Knowledge for both Ian and Lena suggest a possible tendency to emphasise their creative pursuits (Ian's writing and Lena's singing)
This is just speculation on my part but this seems to suggest to me that the encouraged Holly that doesn't have a high holly_change stat might be what you what for the monogamous route.

I look forward to seeing the further implementation of these variables.
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Must be a bug, because i've got everything maxed out with her.

Strange :unsure:

Edit: What exactly are the variables needed to get those options? Maybe i can see from there if it's a bug or not.
Idk cause I used cheats (not my main playthrough) but I guess it gotta be bug cause even if you take out lust points out of equation you should have got love variant of the scene since you maxed out with her.
Just to make sure, It's not older save right? Like older thn chapter 5.
 

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Alright, good point.

I feel like with variables like these, often they don't deal with specific numbers but rather "greater than" or "less than" so my speculation would be that instead of 4 different states it might be (using the same numbers as in your example) that "greater than 2/3" = encouraged Holly and anything below 2 is discouraged Holly. Something like that. What do you think?

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Thanks for bringing the variables to my attention. It's going to be fun to see how they'll be utilized.
 
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