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VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

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SearingFive said:
I want to be the architect of your orgasm
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Sy, a true master of Brosnian corruption, lures Lena in with luxurious gifts and prospects, while she's totally unaware of the vile things that await her at the end of this tunnel, a never ending supply of chicken nuggets and sugary drinks to plump her up, to mold her into a perfect Dunhamesque aberration, all the while Sy is making keikaku faces inside his thousand monitor room, spinning around in his chair. Roll credits.
 
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varpep said:
Okay I'll say my two piece about Seymour. Is Seymour evil? Well from what I've seen, no. Still doesn't stop him from being the main antagonist for the Game though. Based on his actions, philosophy and values, he fits the alignment of a chaotic neutral.
Which is to say that he values freedom and individuality above all else. Even if his freedom deprives others of their own and oppresses them. He believes he should be above the law and everyone should have his same perspective on things. Now I would still argue that he is indeed a bad person even if he may not perceive himself to be one. He is very selfish in his way of doing things and this includes blacklisting Lena in order to entice her to enter a contract with him and ultimately be with him. When he tells Ian about why he blacklisted Lena and he says he merely did it to "motivate" her, I don't believe he was lying. He genuinely did not see what he did as a bad thing.

Now I believe Turret may have some confusion with the whole universal continuity thing. Like fatpussy123 and Gicoo have said, a lot of things are constant in every ORS universe and that includes Seymour blackballing Lena. Just because Ian and Lena are not privy to his foul play does not suddenly change Seymour's character. Yes he comes of as nicer but this just means Lena and Ian are ignorant about who he really is. But I don't agree with using certain tags in the game to say a character is a certain way. Lena and Ian also have "evil" tags for their expressions. Some examples are when Lena doms Louise for the first time and Ian doms Minerva in the hotel. An evil tag is used for their expressions. Does this then mean Lena and Ian are evil? I think not.

Axel though is a different story. But that is another discussion for another time.
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If anything, you just reinforces Seymour's initial character card: a big baddie with a twisted mind. Obviously we can't just take coding flags as raw evidence, but they fit snugly with his actions and mindset before this update.

Is Seymour evil?
Is you ask him that, no.
If you ask other characters with relatively normal moral compass that, yes.
 
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SearingFive said:
“I want to be the architect of your orgasm”. Man, shut the hell up Seymour! Can't pump harder, so he then proceeds to masks his inadequacy with these lines. Future cuck in the making. I'll jump out of the window if Robert is the one who cucks Seymour. :KEK:
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Reminds me of Ethan from GGGB, though that guy takes pleasure in making people fall into depravity, then discards them like trash when it's no longer "fun".
 
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SearingFive said:
Didn't Arthur say to Lena that Seymour actually cycled a lot of girls before her?
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If true, that doesn't necessarily mean Seymour love making young girls do crazy shit for the sake of it like Ethan. I haven't bothered with Seymour's route at all (Lena completely rejects his offer in my playthroughs), so I could be very wrong here.
 
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Geralt From Rivia said:
Famous rapper Sean Combs, known by nickname P. Diddy, spoke out in support of Seymour Ward.
"A wonderful man, investor, businessman and philanthropist. I don't know why people spread lies and rumors about him, they just want to look morally superior.
We have a great relationship and he was often my guest at my parties, and his trips to Little Saint James island were purely for business. He is a law-abiding citizen, and 1000 bottles of baby oil were simply a gift to show our long friendship," - Diddy said.
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This Diddy guy knows the real good guy Seymour.
Well done Diddy.
 
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Seymour's philosophy is nihilistic and based on his (probably pathological) narcissism. Although he claims that everyone should adopt his way of looking at things and is their own fault that they are weak losers, that would imply that Emma (or another person disatisfied with his behaviour) should shoot him dead and it wouldn't be an evil act because there is no good or evil, just society imposing its judeo-christian morality. Of course, that doesn't occur to him because he's the superior being.
 
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Socrambus said:
Seymour's philosophy is nihilistic and based on his (probably pathological) narcissism. Although he claims that everyone should adopt his way of looking at things and is their own fault that they are weak losers, that would imply that Emma (or another person disatisfied with his behaviour) should shoot him dead and it wouldn't be an evil act because there is no good or evil, just society imposing its judeo-christian morality. Of course, that doesn't occur to him because he's the superior being.
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That will be the conclusion to his character. Gunned down by Emma in the streets. Why does that feel topical?
 
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I wonder how that Seymour-Emma meeting is going to be,is obvious the degenerate wants something sexual...would you let him through?;)
 
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There is not really a change variable or flag for Emma though is there? Like she always wears the sundress to the beach house in all playthrough? which is the closest to a change variable we have for her. So what other flag for Emma could there be to agree with Seymour.

I suppose if she's with Perry / Ian or not could set one without too much back coding on EK's part.
 
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Xupuzulla said:
I wonder how that Seymour-Emma meeting is going to be,is obvious the degenerate wants something sexual...would you let him through?;)
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I'm betting for Seymour putting her in a position to choose between her dignity and the well being of the community. Something like he offers to not evict everyone in the community center in exchange for her blowing him or getting fucked by some guys in front of him. Maybe he even adds some personal blackmail related to Ian's career if they are in a relationship, that kind of moral conundrum would amuse someone like Seymour.

fatpussy123 said:
That will be the conclusion to his character. Gunned down by Emma in the streets. Why does that feel topical?
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Emma doesn't seem the type for any kind of violence. Maybe the homeless guy explodes because he hears about Seymour fucking with Emma or something like that. Maybe even Stan going full incel to free Lena of his claws.
 
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