Excuse you. Holly is no prostitute. Leave that stuff to Lena and Ivy, Holly sucked those dicks for the love of the game.
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Man. You guys called it. Robert had the audacity to ask Lena for a threesome with Holly. I swear Robert is Eva's favorite
- Jul 7, 2017
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Yes, but you remember that the most voted option for in the poll is the prostitution. There's need to be the starting point. If Eva add more scenes of it and other options from the poll, than she has considered the votes from patrons. At least, those that's the most voted.
Holly might've done it for free, but who knows how much Ivy got for enabling this service.
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I can only echo what everyone else is saying about this being a terrible update. It was essentially just a fuckfest that saw us skipping from one sex scene to another, with minimal dialogue and story progression. Although fuckfests can be fun, this was so bare bones that it barely fits the critera of an AVN, and struck me as more of a random scene collection with porn-level buildup. Adding to all of this, it was extremely short and ammounted to no more than 20 minutes of playtime. You just expect so much more from a developer with Eva Kiss's track record.
Again, though, it comes back to the fact that she set herself up to fail with ORS. She bit off more than she can chew by having two main characters, an as development has gone on, it has become increasingly obvious that this is causing her a world of issues, as she is practically developing two games at the same time, while also tasked with intertwining them. It requires producing twice the amount of content, and disentanglig a whole range of variations and dialogue, which is simply too much for one person to handle, especially when I think her motivation is very different when producing Ian's content versus Lena's content.
Which brings me onto my theory, which is that I firmly believe that Eva, after GGGB, was always intending to make a male MC game. I remember her development diaries she posted back then, reflecting on the fact that virtually all the successful AVNs are with a male MC, asking herself whether the ought to also go this route to reach the same level of success. She was further saying that she felt done with the GGGB type of storyline, and was looking for some new challenge.
But then she got scared, I think, because all of the polls she was running, as well as the sentiment in her comment section, showed that the female MC was one of the premiere reasons for supporting her. So she gave in, settled for having two main characters, hoping that it would satisfy both ends of the spectrum and give herself the challenge she sought, but not fully recognizing the momentous ordeal this would become.
My theory also makes some sense if we consider the vast difference in quality between Ian and Lena's side of the story. Ian's love interests are far superior and his character development is way more interesting. Ian is actually going somewhere, he is finding success in his writing, in his relationship and his personal improvement, both physically and confidence wise, which makes him overall quite easy to sympathize with. This is in stark contrast to Lena, who, quite frankly, have a bunch of bums as love interests and whose character is completely inconsistent, falling into the typical depravities in corruption games, while trying to have some saving grace in her musical ambitions. It just doesn't work - her storyline is all over the place and suggests that it is not supported by the same level of planning and motivation as Ian's.
And here we are. We have seen increasing development, disappointing and shorter updates, reworks, and an absurd chapter structure of prologue, epilogue and 2-4 partial updates. It has simply gone completely haywire. I think all of this has its root cause in the dual protagonist setup, and a differing motivation for those two characters.
To be honest, as controversial as it would be, I believe the best decision, for the future of ORS, would be to kill Lena's POV. It would immediately reduce the amount of content Eva has to make, and allow her to focus on providing something meaningful and gratifying for Ian's POV. I understand it would be extremely controversial and possibly deter a lot of people from playing the game, but when the alternative is to let things continue to spiral out of control, I can't help but feel like Eva should show some strong leadership and confidence in her ability, and stick up for what she believes is best and want to do.
Otherwise, I'm afraid we're in for a rocky road with ORS going forward, seeing the tendencies we are seeing amplified, and ending up with a rather disillusioning final third of the game, where everything is a mess and there is no real sense of direction. And that would be the real tragedy I think.
Again, though, it comes back to the fact that she set herself up to fail with ORS. She bit off more than she can chew by having two main characters, an as development has gone on, it has become increasingly obvious that this is causing her a world of issues, as she is practically developing two games at the same time, while also tasked with intertwining them. It requires producing twice the amount of content, and disentanglig a whole range of variations and dialogue, which is simply too much for one person to handle, especially when I think her motivation is very different when producing Ian's content versus Lena's content.
Which brings me onto my theory, which is that I firmly believe that Eva, after GGGB, was always intending to make a male MC game. I remember her development diaries she posted back then, reflecting on the fact that virtually all the successful AVNs are with a male MC, asking herself whether the ought to also go this route to reach the same level of success. She was further saying that she felt done with the GGGB type of storyline, and was looking for some new challenge.
But then she got scared, I think, because all of the polls she was running, as well as the sentiment in her comment section, showed that the female MC was one of the premiere reasons for supporting her. So she gave in, settled for having two main characters, hoping that it would satisfy both ends of the spectrum and give herself the challenge she sought, but not fully recognizing the momentous ordeal this would become.
My theory also makes some sense if we consider the vast difference in quality between Ian and Lena's side of the story. Ian's love interests are far superior and his character development is way more interesting. Ian is actually going somewhere, he is finding success in his writing, in his relationship and his personal improvement, both physically and confidence wise, which makes him overall quite easy to sympathize with. This is in stark contrast to Lena, who, quite frankly, have a bunch of bums as love interests and whose character is completely inconsistent, falling into the typical depravities in corruption games, while trying to have some saving grace in her musical ambitions. It just doesn't work - her storyline is all over the place and suggests that it is not supported by the same level of planning and motivation as Ian's.
And here we are. We have seen increasing development, disappointing and shorter updates, reworks, and an absurd chapter structure of prologue, epilogue and 2-4 partial updates. It has simply gone completely haywire. I think all of this has its root cause in the dual protagonist setup, and a differing motivation for those two characters.
To be honest, as controversial as it would be, I believe the best decision, for the future of ORS, would be to kill Lena's POV. It would immediately reduce the amount of content Eva has to make, and allow her to focus on providing something meaningful and gratifying for Ian's POV. I understand it would be extremely controversial and possibly deter a lot of people from playing the game, but when the alternative is to let things continue to spiral out of control, I can't help but feel like Eva should show some strong leadership and confidence in her ability, and stick up for what she believes is best and want to do.
Otherwise, I'm afraid we're in for a rocky road with ORS going forward, seeing the tendencies we are seeing amplified, and ending up with a rather disillusioning final third of the game, where everything is a mess and there is no real sense of direction. And that would be the real tragedy I think.
- Jul 7, 2017
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Yes, but GGGB wouldn't be so popular if it was a pure love story/vanilla. It's not the gender issue.
- Mar 26, 2020
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That is some TikTok E-girl inspired pic ngl LMAO!
- Jul 7, 2017
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She looks like she's drunk and puked.
Well, Holly seems to be having fun.
Someone should send that picture to Minerva, i kinda want to see her face when she learns what her beloved little pet author has been up to.
- Mar 26, 2020
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Minerva would flip out!Well, Holly seems to be having fun.
Someone should send that picture to Minerva, i kinda want to see her face when she learns what her beloved little pet author has been up to.
- Mar 26, 2020
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Amazing update...looking forward to Ivy and Lena camp events.
In some ways it looks like she doesn´t care anymore. What made scenes incredibly hot was the build up. For me, specially the ones with Jeremy. All of them made my heart raze even before the h-scene. And now she just dumps the sex scenes one after another.
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I agree with what you say, but it's all because Eva has lost her passion for what she does. When she released one version within two or three months, she was doing what she did with passion. Then she took a long break and said, "Updates take a long time. From now on, I will release updates every month under the name Alpha - Beta and Final versions." Later, these times doubled and the content rate in each update decreased by half. And finally, she started to release separate updates for Ian and separate updates for Lena. Each update takes an average of five or six months and the content is half less than previous updates.
And now, since she had difficulty in finding content, she started to conduct a poll and add the option with the highest votes as a scene in the game. This exactly means, "I have nothing left to add to this work, I will continue it according to your wishes."
When the writer starts to shape the story he wrote according to the wishes of others, his passion for that work disappears. And over time, this situation turns into "You gave me this much money, you asked me to draw this, take it and continue like this." Unfortunately, it will no longer make sense to expect the old quality from this game.
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That's like 99% of the games on the site lmao. Indie game dev takes a lot of time.