VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

In fairness, a Lena solo game would also include a npc Ian who would probably be more of a squarely good guy, struggling with his ex-girlfriend cheating on him, and struggling with his artistic pursuits. He'd be a natural foil to Mike, where instead of being the corrupting influence, Lena could be a supportive influence.

I generally think that Lena is more popular though because players like to see her corrupted. Ian's story is very much about bettering himself, but there's no one really trying to bring him down or make him fall. Maybe Axel or Seymour will become that to him, but even then, it's based on their relationship to Lena. If Ian ends up as mediocre as he started, it's due to his own lack of commitment. The closest corruption I can think of is the Cindy path, but no one is really encouraging him to make those choices and Cindy even tries to distance herself from him.

Conversely, Lena actually has forces working against her to try and make her submit to her or influence her. Axel, Seymour, and even Ivy are all trying to push and pull Lena in various directions that many would consider to make her less good as a person. Even if the characters in Ian's story are more interesting, there's very little conflict or drama in that path, outside of the Cindy/Wade situation, the Minerva job situation or what Lena herself introduces to his story. I'm interested by the involvement of Gillian though, because that does seem like it might introduce more conflict and drama for Ian's side of the story.

You raise some good points. When I first played I loved the Ian, Lena and Holly characters and how the Lena and Ian story arc progressed. Since then I have come back to the game and started exploring paths I hadn't explored before like Alison/Ian and slutty Lena path. I found myself less enamoured with Lena after exploring her darker paths. I found her bitchy at times and hypocritical on some of the paths. So I am struggling to stay engaged with her character.

I need to connect with characters to enjoy a story. So a solo Lena story is unlikely to appeal to me much at the moment but there is more story to come so we will see. I wasn't a fan of Ivy before, but she has grown on me as a character so you never know. Lena doesn't have to be perfect but less like my ex-wife would be good haha.

 

[88stanford88]

In fairness, a Lena solo game would also include a npc Ian who would probably be more of a squarely good guy, struggling with his ex-girlfriend cheating on him, and struggling with his artistic pursuits. He'd be a natural foil to Mike, where instead of being the corrupting influence, Lena could be a supportive influence.

I generally think that Lena is more popular though because players like to see her corrupted. Ian's story is very much about bettering himself, but there's no one really trying to bring him down or make him fall. Maybe Axel or Seymour will become that to him, but even then, it's based on their relationship to Lena. If Ian ends up as mediocre as he started, it's due to his own lack of commitment. The closest corruption I can think of is the Cindy path, but no one is really encouraging him to make those choices and Cindy even tries to distance herself from him.

Conversely, Lena actually has forces working against her to try and make her submit to her or influence her. Axel, Seymour, and even Ivy are all trying to push and pull Lena in various directions that many would consider to make her less good as a person. Even if the characters in Ian's story are more interesting, there's very little conflict or drama in that path, outside of the Cindy/Wade situation, the Minerva job situation or what Lena herself introduces to his story. I'm interested by the involvement of Gillian though, because that does seem like it might introduce more conflict and drama for Ian's side of the story.

A Lena solo game would be perfect

I agree with you...
LLEENNNNAAAAA story is amazing and where she is present in the Ian it is good to make him a cuckold (the only popular possible path for Ian)

Ian story is simply boring in fact although it has some seemingly more interesting parts this is a "must" in order to avoid unbalance and absolute boredom, in fact I think Eva is spending a lot of effort to write Ian's part in an interesting way (I think the consistency of IAN story is the main cause of delay and rewriting)

Lena will be more and more popular it is her destiny.
pretty brunettes are definitely less boring than Ian's books
...thinking well Eva wrote the "perfect" job to make Ian popular

 

[Adultress]

Dev mentioned some scenes in ch11 will be 'expanded' in the epilogue.
The way i understand it is :
beta : bug fixes
full : refinement (more dialogue/new little details)
epilogue : chapter ending + new scenes

This is a wild definition of "final"

 

[Alphaeboy]

Ending 95% likely; scenes not yet; route shaping up is reflected through dialogue by the End of current version.

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I did this route and ended up having sex with Holly. She and Ian broke up but they have some lingering feelings for each other. Ian and Holly became a couple but also Holly have a crush on Lena as well.

Ian have moments where is thirsty for Lena while he's with Holly and Holly feeling Lena as well.

I also picked the choice of Lena to dance with Ian on Ivy Party which clearly spark up some feelings and then Lena kissing Holly a couple times.

Now on this chapter I have Ian not opening up to Holly after sex Holly confesses that she's also confused on her feelings for someone else as well. It interesting because they feel the same way and they talked about it.

Then Lena got the inner monologue where she have the thought of three of them having feeling for each other.

I have feeling Lena will talk to them about it hopefully next chapter or soon.

 

[Satiro]

any news scenes?

 

[ffive]

A Lena solo game would be perfect

Solo Lena game would be simply Lena rolling around with random combinations of Mike, Axel, Seymour, Jeremy and Robert. Oh, and Ivy and Holly. I mean, if that's your thing, that's fine, but, eh.

 

[Dom Toretto]

Does chapter 11end with Ian ex-girl friend coming back in to the scene after taking Lana home

 

[Mfka5]

Yall know what chapter 12 will be about

 

[fatpussy123]

Yall know what chapter 12 will be about

Beach update, don't expect it any time soon tho.

 

[Spideyknight]

There was a gallery unlock on the first page, it's gone now. I assume it no longer works?

 

[jollyjoker27]

There was a gallery unlock on the first page, it's gone now. I assume it no longer works?

It´s no longer needed. Start new game, choose cheat mode, game will ask if you want to unlock complete gallery. Type yes, skip prologue, make a save, exit to main -> voilá!

 

[SerHawkes]

Beach update, don't expect it any time soon tho.

More like the prized tourney event WE HAVE BEEN WAIT YEARS FUCKING FOR.

... And Ian-Ivy having a moment, FINAL FUCKINGLY...

Though given the nature and history and continued bullshit by EK, it won't happen and I'll very likely will trash this game in it's entirety having Ian-Ivy not happening twelve chapters in, 3+ years of bullshit.

 

[dolfe67]

Solo Lena game would be simply Lena rolling around with random combinations of Mike, Axel, Seymour, Jeremy and Robert. Oh, and Ivy and Holly. I mean, if that's your thing, that's fine, but, eh.

And Ian, as the nice guy NPC. Seeing the poll result, it's the thing of a lot of people

 

[FugginDamaged]

Any update in the story? or is it the final version more of a polishing the bugs situation?

 

[Cricco]

Alison going down in hotness with the blond hair or what Still hot but girl now officially trying too hard. Also hysterical that in the path where Ian has fucked everyone but her and she gave that whole speech about being over him, it took like 2 days for her to run it back and change her mind, giving less of a shit about stds and morning after pills than she even does in her proper route

My favorite female character hands down, just a trainwreck of neediness that you'd better steer clear off in anything not porn game

 

[| Vee |]

SURPRISE EVERYONE!

In in-game built cheat mode if Ian is going Chad mode and in Ch9 he didn't choose to be couple with Lena. Later in Ch11 after having sex in living room with Lena when Ian went to His room His status is changed from ian_lena_love=False to True automatically SO IAN IS IN LOVE WITH LENA THEY ARE STILL NOT A COUPLE. Remember ian_lena_couple=false is still false, only ian_lena_love variable is set to TRUE. All these dialogues were new too.
In this playthrough Lena was in Love with Ian but Ian was not, they kept things casual and while having sex with Lena where you have to choose tell Ian I love you or choke IF I select former I get this one.
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I have to mention this that in final update If Ian is on Chad route as specified above than the variable is no longer changed from ian_lena_love=False to True automatically It is only set to true IF IAN OPEN UP WITH LENA when she returns from her home trip. Everything else is same as above mentioned.

Means Ian now choses if he wants to love Lena or not in Chad route

 

[Alphaeboy]

I really don't see a problem with Ian and Lena being both protagonists. I respect Eva Kiss for giving them both equal amount of time in the game.

Most like this games it's the Male that get more time than the female MC. What comes to mind to me is Love & Sex: Second Base like it's crazy how the Male have 30 something girls but the Female MC have less that and less content still.

But back to the main point

We already have Good Girl Gone Bad with Female MC; it's pretty cool we have with both Male and Female so everyone can have the best of both worlds.

Honestly, don't see the problem of playing as the opposite sex; it's hot in a sense but also if I'm into the story and the characters than I don't really which gender I am playing as really.

 

[Alphaeboy]

I have to mention this that in final update If Ian is on Chad route as specified above than the variable is no longer changed from ian_lena_love=False to True automatically It is only set to true IF IAN OPEN UP WITH LENA when she returns from her home trip. Everything else is same as above mentioned.

Means Ian now choses if he wants to love Lena or not in Chad route

I wonder can you do this in Holly route

 

[| Vee |]

I don't know why you guys think that EK is just going to drop Ian as Protagonist(as I get impression from several post). Why would she? She is just checking how her audience is engaging with game now and get opinions on several things such as criticism etc.
So chill! She is not going to drop one MC over other but we may see one of the protagonists getting more content or more Character defining.

 

[jollyjoker27]

More like the prized tourney event WE HAVE BEEN WAIT YEARS FUCKING FOR.

... And Ian-Ivy having a moment, FINAL FUCKINGLY...

Though given the nature and history and continued bullshit by EK, it won't happen and I'll very likely will trash this game in it's entirety having Ian-Ivy not happening twelve chapters in, 3+ years of bullshit.

Come, sit down at my campfire, I´ll play Ivys_Theme.mp3 on my Kazoo to soothe you.

re: MMA tourney I have to admit I skipped most of the text there until recently and it is explained that it works like a bracket with 1 fight per month. So ... likely it´ll start in the next 1-2 chapters and be something that drags on until the end of the game and not a one time event.