VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[SearingFive]

I actually like that you have to navigate that kind of choice. I think it makes the game more interesting to replay, that you can't just get everyone all at once.

Exactly, I am actually content with the pathing that EK laid out for us. Some people just want to get it all like Pokémons.

 

[BlandChili]

How many girls are stalked by 1. a millionare who owns half the town and can take your job if you oppose him, 2. a toxic ex who is a rich, well connected photographer willing to beat you up?

I imagine that the number of 1. is quite low, but I wouldn't be surprised that if 1. is true then the chances of 2. in correlation would quite high, so long as you remove the "photographer" part. Well connected people are often connected to each other and rich people tend not to like being told no anyway.

Lena can talk as much as she wants, in reality, Seymour, Axel and the rest are around her and thus her boyfriend. If you start dating her, she doesn't move in with you immediatly, so she still is around Louise and Stan for a while. And Ivy pesters her to go out, become an e-girl, get on Billys dubios deal etc.

Yeah, sure, but the player decides what she accepts or not and how Ian reacts to it.

Some people just want to get it all like Pokémons.

Lena doing Pikachu cosplay when?

 

[Maviarab]

How many girls are stalked by 1. a millionare who owns half the town and can take your job if you oppose him, 2. a toxic ex who is a rich, well connected photographer willing to beat you up?

Lena can talk as much as she wants, in reality, Seymour, Axel and the rest are around her and thus her boyfriend. If you start dating her, she doesn't move in with you immediatly, so she still is around Louise and Stan for a while. And Ivy pesters her to go out, become an e-girl, get on Billys dubios deal etc.

She is one of the worst girls to for, if we look at the other options.

Hyperbole much? Only depending on your choices.

Not difficult (in fact it's incredibly easy) to play her as loyal, low drama, loving GF. Or even that way and date no one.

 

[BlandChili]

Hyperbole much? Only depending on your choices.

Not difficult (in fact it's incredibly easy) to play her as loyal, low drama, loving GF. Or even that way and date no one.

I think what Gicoo means is that regardless of choice Lena will always be a complicated date because of the people around her. Seymour will always have interest in Lena for whatever reason, Axel's always her ex and always a toxic presence, even if you minimize their interactions. So there's some automatic drama to dating her, even if Lena does all the right things to be a loyal and monogamous girlfriend.

I don't know that I agree with Gicoo that it makes her such a negative option, I think Lena has traits that makes her a fun partner that a confident lover would probably enjoy in spite of those things, since Lena in this case is doing all she can to avoid the drama.

 

[Gicoo]

It was proposed that Lena is worth ten women. My reaction on this was that pointing out that Lena has many downsides and may not even compare to one average, but high drama free woman.

 

[BlandChili]

It was proposed that Lena is worth ten women. My reaction on this was that pointing out that Lena has many downsides and may not even compare to one average, but high drama free woman.

Mhm, that'll probably be easier to judge when the game's done. With how toothless both Axel and Seymour have actually been so far, my thought is that Lena is very much worth it. That is, assuming the game state in question is one where she makes all the choices to be a good gf and avoid the optional parts of said drama.

 

[Maviarab]

It was proposed that Lena is worth ten women. My reaction on this was that pointing out that Lena has many downsides and may not even compare to one average, but high drama free woman.

And that is pure opinion (wrongly imo). I disgree completely...all depends on your route doesn't it.

 

[Gicoo]

And that is pure opinion (wrongly imo). I disgree completely...all depends on your route doesn't it.

It isn't an opinion that Lena is hounded by Seymour and Axel, has relationship, work and money issues, toxic friends, a stressful family that missuses her money. Its an observation. One that people seeking for a potential girlfriend do, whether they are conscious of it or not.

 

[BlandChili]

It isn't an opinion that Lena is hounded by Seymour and Axel, has relationship, work and money issues, toxic friends, a stressful family that missuses her money. Its an observation. One that people seeking for a potential girlfriend do, whether they are conscious of it or not.

Maviarab was more likely stating that Lena's relative worth is an opinion.

 

[iamcomming]

You know that Ian's manuscript of the book is ready, right? He can just use that to lure investors if he wanted to. He went there to get an experience and how is making new contacts not beneficial? Though I agree with you that EK could've handled the dates separately for both paths instead of gatekeeping with one or the other choices.

yes, i made ian himself to give mr ward the manusript and nothing happend (he didnt read) so i have reason to say, it is nothing, not a finished book. still in my head about get new contacts

"new contact: hey Holly, i am glad to see you... wait, who is this with you?
ian: i am her coworker and i am here, becau-.
new contact: and what the hell are you doing here? you have no business here.
ian: she invited me, i wanna new contacts.
new contact: yes, she is nice, now get lost and dont use her out, dont be a leech"

basically i dont have problem about this kind of choosing "meet Lena and Holly at cafe or go date with Alison" i like these choices and consequence when Alison a little mad and always say she cant compare to this model girl but for now, (leave your friends and) lose Cindy without reason (as ian say, yesterday she sent nude and now dont even speak. i didnt do anything wrong against her) or drop out Holly without reason (and your career) (as ian say, we can do it another time. but as you said, NOTHING will happening in next 5-6 chapter, but little flirt, i didnt do anything wrong against her)

 

[BlandChili]

but for now, (leave your friends and) lose Cindy without reason (as ian say, yesterday she sent nude and now dont even speak. i didnt do anything wrong against her) or drop out Holly without reason (and your career) (as ian say, we can do it another time. but as you said, NOTHING will happening in next 5-6 chapter, but little flirt, i didnt do anything wrong against her)

But there is a reason, it's just narrative. If you choose the book fair Cindy sees it as abandoning her plans and she then sees you as unreliable for her desires. If you choose the birthday Holly sees it as rejection and stops really trying to get with Ian because of it.

 

[Maviarab]

It isn't an opinion that Lena is hounded by Seymour and Axel, has relationship, work and money issues, toxic friends, a stressful family that missuses her money. Its an observation. One that people seeking for a potential girlfriend do, whether they are conscious of it or not.

Maviarab was more likely stating that Lena's relative worth is an opinion.

Not really.

Hounded by Seymour? At first...then you tell him to fuck off and then really, he pretty much disappears from the story. So he blocks a modelling gig. Pff...and?
Axel: See above.
Money issues: Only a problem if you let it be a problem. never been an issue for me.
Toxic friends: Debatable.
Family: Yes but is also really a non-issue story wise. And you don't have to send extra money etc. You can keep it.

So again, all her 'issues' are created by your choices.

 

[iamcomming]

I actually like that you have to navigate that kind of choice. I think it makes the game more interesting to replay, that you can't just get everyone all at once.

with cherry and alison at bar it is totally understandable.
if go with alison -> cherry dont get good first impression about you, so not available (well, it is not a good reason, but i am not interested in cherry, so easy to accept this stupidity)
if stay with cherry -> jeremy steal alison, so not available (good reason)

if go with Holly -> Cindy dont fight with Wade, so not available (not exactly but kind of good reason)
if go with Cindy -> Holly still has a crush on you, so not available. waaait what?

 

[BlandChili]

Family: Yes but is also really a non-issue story wise. And you don't have to send extra money etc. You can keep it.

Also this one is pretty common, plenty of people have family issues.
The player gets choices on how impactful Lena's family is to her life.

 

[iamcomming]

But there is a reason, it's just narrative. If you choose the book fair Cindy sees it as abandoning her plans and she then sees you as unreliable for her desires. If you choose the birthday Holly sees it as rejection and stops really trying to get with Ian because of it.

if we speak about narrative
its true, but you should "fix it" with Cindy, she really need some charater development.
its true, but Holly still have crush on you and you just should call her a date or spend time with her. but you cant because well really no reason for it.

 

[BlandChili]

if we speak about narrative
its true, but you should "fix it" with Cindy, she really need some character development.

Well, Cindy's seen you reject her once and apparently that closes her off for that. Perhaps Eva will entertain a future chance like with Holly, but my assumption would be that, that would come after Axel's reeled her in and at that point some people might see her as "spoiled goods" I guess.

its true, but Holly still have crush on you and you just should call her a date or spend time with her. but you cant because well really no reason for it.

Well, because Ian doesn't really see Holly as girl to pursue in a sexual or romantic fashion. That's why another shot of that first reason is probably coming up now that Holly can be a more outwardly sexual individual, Ian notices it.

 

[iamcomming]

Well, Cindy's seen you reject her once and apparently that closes her off for that. Perhaps Eva will entertain a future chance like with Holly, but my assumption would be that, that would come after Axel's reeled her in and at that point some people might see her as "spoiled goods" I guess.

Well, because Ian doesn't really see Holly as girl to pursue in a sexual or romantic fashion. That's why another shot of that first reason is probably coming up now that Holly can be a more outwardly sexual individual, Ian notices it.

yes, kind of reject cindy, but i am sure ian dont try fix it, give up without i choose give up or leave her

yes, ian can see anything, i dont care. eve kiss game where i choose, lena like work with mr ward or dont mind or dont like. trash avn where you have to drop Holly because the dev write, we can do another time this trip and there is no chance to do it another time

 

[BlandChili]

yes, ian can see anything, i dont care. eve kiss game where i choose, lena like work with mr ward or dont mind or dont like. trash avn where you have to drop Holly because the dev write, we can do another time this trip and there is no chance to do it another time

Well, EvaKiss stated when she started ORS that she wanted it to be more realistic. Giving up on your crush is realistic, so sorry but the reason is there and explained, even if you dislike it.

 

[dacris69]

Can you avoid dicks on the female path?

 

[Gicoo]

Can you avoid dicks on the female path?

Yes. You can go sexless (aside from some masturbation/modeling) or pure lesbian.