i dont understand how people like Stan more than Perry. Perry is hilarious
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To me I like to see everything and how things will go in different routes
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For me it's more that I don't find Stan as insufferable, he's rather harmless when he isn't being a creep.
Perry lies around all the time and moans whenever he has to make the least effort and complains about everything. In ch. 9 I came to like him a bit more, so I am hoping we've come into the part of the story where he becomes a better person.
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In fact, I have never figured out whether Perry and Wade are really friends of Ian.
You (Ian) can't feel their friendship and support at all. You are just having fun together.
It can only be regarded as a group of selfish acquaintances.
Even if you (Ian) flatter them and promote friendship, they still treat you according to their own personality.
It doesn't make any sense, it's not worth it~
Even if your relationship with them is the worst, it won't have any impact on the plot, so what's the point?
I mean~
If the friendship is not equal, your efforts will not be rewarded.
They are all selfish, so why does Ian need to care and flatter them? It seems meaningless.
You (Ian) can't feel their friendship and support at all. You are just having fun together.
It can only be regarded as a group of selfish acquaintances.
Even if you (Ian) flatter them and promote friendship, they still treat you according to their own personality.
It doesn't make any sense, it's not worth it~
Even if your relationship with them is the worst, it won't have any impact on the plot, so what's the point?
I mean~
If the friendship is not equal, your efforts will not be rewarded.
They are all selfish, so why does Ian need to care and flatter them? It seems meaningless.
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Firstly i got only error "JD_money_up". Then I closed the game and now i cant even launch it. I tried to reinstall but it cant help. Anyone can help?
- Dec 4, 2017
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You know, I think them being a group of selfish individuals that have fun together is the most realistic part about their dynamics. You are right that they aren't true friends or best friends, just buddies at best, but you know, compared to the sugar-coated friendships often portrayed in films or TV-shows, that's often the case IRL. You are extremely lucky if you have at least one person who'd fit the criteria you put into real friendship. Personally, I relate to Ian's group of buddies very much. I was growing up disappointed that I never managed to have any real close friends like I saw in movies, and this somewhat toxic friendship was the best thing I had. It's not ideal, but it's better than being alone. Because if things become shitty, you can at least rely on them to distract you from your problems.
could not agree more. The friendships started in highschool and their common ground is now long gone.
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Exactly. They're long past their prime. Well, maybe not Ian and Jeremy, but Perry and Wade definitely are. Wade is a has-been charmer and "cool guy" that lost all of his passions since dating Cindy. Perry is an artistic guy who used to enjoy singing for their band and still misses that feeling of brotherhood that they shared in the past. That's why he's always trying to initiate hangouts or some events for the group, not willing to let everyone become separated for good. As annoying as he can be, he's really the glue holding everyone together.
Seriously, if it wasn't for Perry, Wade would've cut all ties with them long ago, Emma would do her thing, too. It would only be Ian, Alison and Jeremy, and considering how one is always interested in intimacy and another is a horndog with only sex on his mind, it wouldn't really be that wholesome friendship either, just an awkward triangle. And most importantly, if it wasn't for Perry, Ian would never get to know Lena as something more than a friendly waitress (the very first life drawing event that Perry almost had to drag Ian's ass to).
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Your perspective on Perry is interesting, and you make some very good points, but can't really agree with this; seeing as it seems like everyone in this town bump into each other some way or the other aaaand I don't think Ian would have had his last latte at the cafe...
Though the drawing setting was quite different from the cafe setting, so perhaps it would have taken longer time for Ian to act. But he's not alone in this, Lena noticed him as well.
As we are talking about Perry, last chapter we had the opportunity to get him to work at the caffé... Is it a way to open a future Lena/Perry path? Story-wise, this choice is only to get them closer, imo.
- Nov 19, 2017
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it's new (added by EVA herself) I think it's related to the open relationship Ian can suggest to Lena.
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In fact, I'm talking about flaws in game design.
Some people are talking about the difference between reality and games.
My main point is that the "relationship" element in the game has so far been meaningless.
As long as you make some important options right, it doesn't matter if the relationship is not improved, and the plot will still unfold.
So what's the point of enhancing relationship?
The element preset by the game developer becomes meaningless~
Watch me "play" with Cindy's plot.
1. Don't flatter her from the beginning.
2. Play pool. Let her lose twice.
3. Can't follow to "Shine". So there is no follow-up photography plot~
4. This is a Bug, you did not go to take pictures with her, this dialogue option should not be available.
5. The refusal does not affect the follow-up.
6. This option is the most important.
7. Chase her.
8. Look at the relationship at the moment.
9. The relationship is cold, but you can still fuck her.
So "enhancing relationship" doesn't make any sense~
Some people are talking about the difference between reality and games.
My main point is that the "relationship" element in the game has so far been meaningless.
As long as you make some important options right, it doesn't matter if the relationship is not improved, and the plot will still unfold.
So what's the point of enhancing relationship?
The element preset by the game developer becomes meaningless~
Watch me "play" with Cindy's plot.
1. Don't flatter her from the beginning.
2. Play pool. Let her lose twice.
3. Can't follow to "Shine". So there is no follow-up photography plot~
4. This is a Bug, you did not go to take pictures with her, this dialogue option should not be available.
5. The refusal does not affect the follow-up.
6. This option is the most important.
7. Chase her.
8. Look at the relationship at the moment.
9. The relationship is cold, but you can still fuck her.
So "enhancing relationship" doesn't make any sense~
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It's like a town of 80 people, with fifteen of them or so in their 20's. I can see why all of the businesses are struggling when the sole patrons are Ian and his friends. I guess some characters who haven't met others up till now just happened to be walking down different streets or visiting the same places at different times of day for the past 20+ years up until recently. If they all stick around the area for the next five generations, I'd hate to see the gene-pool at the end of it all, what with the inevitable inbreeding.Your perspective on Perry is interesting, and you make some very good points, but can't really agree with this; seeing as it seems like everyone in this town bump into each other some way or the other aaaand I don't think Ian would have had his last latte at the cafe...
She has good fashion and an amazing bootey tho
So "enhancing relationship" doesn't make any sense~
This definitely seems like a design issue based on limited time and organization in setting up and dialing in all these paths. Relationships and stats affecting some choices unreasonably, but not affecting others at all which should be affected.
Devil's advocate that someone else will likely say if I don't: "That just means Cindy was in a vulnerable state and had an impulse to get with anyone showing her attention right then (at least if they were attractive enough)". I don't really buy that charitable excuse, but it is an argument with a sliver of plausibility & an element of truth reflected in the story. The more likely explanation is workload and time. Though the only one that knows if it's workload or intent there is Eva + anyone she may have shared the info with.
I think (hope) that Eva will iron out all of this when the full game is complete, if she isn't burned out by then and desperate to move onto the next project.
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Except you don't know that yet, the releationship could go three ways based on the current setup: 1) she fixes things with Wade 2) she dumps Wade and goes with somebody else (like Axel) or 3) she dumps Wade and stays with you. All of those things depend will depend on how hard you go for her and whether or not somebody else can snatch her from you.
You've seen some generalities so far, not the endgame.