Lisa is a great game, but it does not have half the amount of content in ORS. You can argue that it matches it in quality, but no way in number of routes/scenes
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Yes, you could also argue that the Earth is flat but you'd be just as wrong..
Dawg I never said I agreed or disagreed. My original challenge was for someone to show me a game with a similar amount of content, but higher update frequency. I asked this because everybody seems to want to cry about Eva Kiss like she is one of the laziest devs on the site, all because one update took too long (the remaster, which DID take too long). The only answer I've seen is Lisa, which is a great game, but definitely does not have as many routes and unique scenes as ORS. I also don't think it is that much more frequent in terms of updates.
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I think I'm in minority here who thinks ORS is by far better than GGGB. Obviously, the art is way better but I also think the writing for ORS is far superior. In GGGB, Ashley felt like a vehicle without personality that you could drive through whichever fetish you want. Lena on the other hand feels like an actual character which helps with emersion a lot. You can actually see the road which led Lena to her current choices of action while with Ashley, the choices would be something like "Yeah he is hot" and "No he isn't". It's actually what I think makes EvaKiss take 7 months for an update.
can RPGM games be played with a controller? I'm not really a fan of playing with keyboard and i once asked on an rpgm thread (alansya chronicles), but didn't get an answer
I'm with you I think ORS is a better story, and for me story is king. When I see people complain about ORS in comparison to GGGB, I always like to remind them that GGGB is finished and probably for many people here, never had to wait through updates. ORS is only halfway through, no one know where the story is leading, or how some of these decisions will play out. It's not a fair comparison.
With that being said though, I do still enjoy GGGB, and as I've said earlier it's probably my 3rd favorite game on this site. When it's all said and done however I think I'll end up enjoying ORS more in the end.
I know what you mean. I once asked a traffic light how I could contest a parking ticket, but they wouldn't answer me so I went to Dairy Queen. They didn't know either, but I got a Dilly Bar.
The beginning of GGGB: "Hello. I am the main character you will be playing. This is my life. I will now rattle on through exposition yadayadayadayadayada." Very natural.
Writing and art a step up in ORS for sure. I think slower release speed and less extreme sex & ramp-ups in ORS are the main gripes with most people.
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The Story is average, if not below average. The characters are hit and miss in terms of their depths, with inconsistancy and hypocritical neuances with certain fetish characters like Jeremy, who adds nothing to the story other than being a Small Black Cock kink. (Because Eva SO VERY MUCH LOVES THAT SORT OF THING.)
Unasked for reworks that don't add or change much, constant negliect of content for Ivy, who just NOW, ten chapters in and 3 laughable reworks of a bar scene later, is just now getting some Ian face time, not to mention a 'update' that did nothing for one character in particular and kept him the same.
In short: Eva bit off more than she could chew and overall story and characters have suffered for it when she pushs herself to meet deadlines, rather than take her time and work it all out at a slowly, leisurely pace.
Unasked for reworks that don't add or change much, constant negliect of content for Ivy, who just NOW, ten chapters in and 3 laughable reworks of a bar scene later, is just now getting some Ian face time, not to mention a 'update' that did nothing for one character in particular and kept him the same.
In short: Eva bit off more than she could chew and overall story and characters have suffered for it when she pushs herself to meet deadlines, rather than take her time and work it all out at a slowly, leisurely pace.
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That and the rewrite, but I suppose you could fold that into slower release speed. Personally, I like the more "realistic" writing and inter-character dynamics of ORS. It's quite an ambitious game with two MC's, multiple branching, artwork, etc. One would think people would also take that into account when they criticize her.The beginning of GGGB: "Hello. I am the main character you will be playing. This is my life. I will now rattle on through exposition yadayadayadayadayada." Very natural.
Ok SerHawkes, I get that you are miffed about Ivy; I am kind of too, but to say the story is average to below average, really? Especially with all the unmitigated crap shovelware on this site?
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Lets see: A set of antagonists that aren't all that thrilling and bland. You have Seymour, who wants to control Lena and make her a sex slave. How is that interesting? You have Axel, who is also obsessed with Lena and can't take a fucking hint and is apparently involved every fucking where. Do we really need Axel to be at a gay bar next? Jeremy is just a BBC kink and has no depth to him at all whatsoeer. Stan is... Stan. And yet the revolving drama each chapter is: Will Lena be able to afford anything while slutting it up or not? Will Ian not get cucked and become the writer he wants to be? Will Stan die in a fiery crash and be replaced?
And sure, I'm bitter and jaded as fuck about Ivy-Ian, yet the writer in me screams 'Eva could do better'. Less kink/fetish crap, more character building. Make Jeremy a decent guy instead of being the Tyrone-lite and wanna be player. Add some depth and delve into characters and their relationships such as Jeremy and Louise and have Lena try to mediate that rathr than gloss over it and reward Jeremy over and over again without little to no punishment. Not to mention Lena more or less being able to fuck around while still being into Ian and have no punishment to speak of but if Ian does it's grounds for murder. Expand on Perry's or Emma's or Cherry's or whoevers passions and interests.
So for me, yeah the story is below average and isn't interesting and lack creative 'villains'.
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Ok, let's assume you are right, although I would still contend you on multiple points, you are still holding Eva at a higher standard than most writers on this site. Her not meeting this standard doesn't make her game average or below, it's still better writing than the majority of the games on this site, making it de-facto above average.
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Entirely debateable, given the flood of shit/fetish games and no writing talent, sure.
Agreed. Eva's no poet and no award-winning writer by a long shot. But we're talking games here. Not just games. Porn games. My butt poops out better dialogue and more stimulating narrative than 95% of games on this site. Eva's writing: Good enough, considering the competition. (TBF, my butt has won a Poohlitzer).
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So, if we won't agree on the finer points, will you at least concede that ORS technically has above average writing? Further, when the time comes that Eva graces us with Ian's dick in Ivy, and the characters are more fleshed out, I wouldn't keep seeing you get in a tizzy about Ivy? I just think there are more valid things you could criticize her for.
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If and when, we shall see. For now, truce.
But I wouldn't get my hopes up, given the current track record of shaftings in regards to Ivy.
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you can use some software where make control buttons as you type on keyboard
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Stopped reading at "The story is average"
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The fact that you had to quote me says others wise. Have a lovely day.