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Ian dating Holly can no longer be cucked by Mark
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ngl though: I think that could have been a spicy ( optional ! ) route at that point. I.e. Holly herself, even at max change probably not doing it, despite being unsure about her relationship with Ian. But Lena being able to push her with the player´s choice and depending on her own agenda with both Ian and Holly. Not sure honestly, probably too much work at this point but opportunity missed I think. :unsure:
 
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ngl though: I think that could have been a spicy ( optional ! ) route at that point. I.e. Holly herself, even at max change probably not doing it, despite being unsure about her relationship with Ian.
Holly only ever feels unsure about her relationship with Ian if she develops strong feelings for Lena. So it really wouldn't make sense for her to fuck some random guy in such context.
 
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Any of you played the committed Lena run? How did you manage your money? I think stalkfap is really needed in that run just to avoid being in the red.
 

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Holly only ever feels unsure about her relationship with Ian if she develops strong feelings for Lena. So it really wouldn't make sense for her to fuck some random guy in such context.
I see, yes that makes no sense then. I thought it was dependant on whether Ian deleted Gillian´s pictures and subsequently being able to open up/commit to Holly or not. The latter then opening up said potential cheating route for Holly.
 
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ngl though: I think that could have been a spicy ( optional ! ) route at that point. I.e. Holly herself, even at max change probably not doing it, despite being unsure about her relationship with Ian. But Lena being able to push her with the player´s choice and depending on her own agenda with both Ian and Holly. Not sure honestly, probably too much work at this point but opportunity missed I think. :unsure:
Yeah I wouldn't mind it, but a problem that has been raised because of how Lena is written is that she wouldn't push Holly like that. Even now as slutty as she can be, she is very protective of 'Holly's feelings'. The only circumstance I could see her pushing Holly to outright cheat is if she is on the drugs. In chapter 10 she could blow others at the club while dating Ian, so there is a history of Lena doing things she otherwise wouldn't while under the influence.

Holly making the choice to cheat would also be tough to write, in this chapter she told Lena that she loves Ian and there isn't really a way to give Holly bad sex at this point. If Eva were to write it, it would probably be after an argument. The most likely scenario would be Ian getting jealous/controlling over a maxed out holly_change Holly who acts/dresses super slutty. Them at the club Lena can push her to cheat.

I think this would still take so much time to write tho and we probably won't see this kind of route in the coming updates.
 

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Any of you played the committed Lena run? How did you manage your money? I think stalkfap is really needed in that run just to avoid being in the red.
Don't send any money to your stupid mother (she'll just give it away to your useless brother) and don't spend on pointless shit like rubber cocks or tattoos, and you should be ok, even with modest Stalkfap. The rent is just 2 coins/month, when Stan asks for more tell him to go fuck himself.
 

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Yeah I wouldn't mind it, but a problem that has been raised because of how Lena is written is that she wouldn't push Holly like that. Even now as slutty as she can be, she is very protective of 'Holly's feelings'. The only circumstance I could see her pushing Holly to outright cheat is if she is on the drugs. In chapter 10 she could blow others at the club while dating Ian, so there is a history of Lena doing things she otherwise wouldn't while under the influence.

Holly making the choice to cheat would also be tough to write, in this chapter she told Lena that she loves Ian and there isn't really a way to give Holly bad sex at this point. If Eva were to write it, it would probably be after an argument. The most likely scenario would be Ian getting jealous/controlling over a maxed out holly_change Holly who acts/dresses super slutty. Them at the club Lena can push her to cheat.

I think this would still take so much time to write tho and we probably won't see this kind of route in the coming updates.
I think you can easily explain it through Holly's insecurity, and have Ivy/Slutty Lena play upon her fears that she's not enough.

Whether Ian and Holly are dating shouldn't really matter, I think the only checks a cheating holly path would need is if Lena is slutty enough to encourage it, and if Ian has shown any interest in any girl other than Holly.

I mean Holly already shows up to Ian's apartment in Chapter 11 and still feels like she's bothering her boyfriend by showing up. Just being with Ian doesn't really seem to increase her self confidence as much as Ivy and Lena are able to on their dedicated paths.
 
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Wait, so can Ian fuck Alison without condom this update only if they are not in relationship together (or FWB)? Am I being punished for having a save dedicated to Alison? Is that a bug or expected?
 
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I mean Holly already shows up to Ian's apartment in Chapter 11 and still feels like she's bothering her boyfriend by showing up. Just being with Ian doesn't really seem to increase her self confidence as much as Ivy and Lena are able to on their dedicated paths.
Oh yeah, Holly is still acting totally insecure there:
Python:
    i "We should start getting ready to go to Emma's event. It's almost time."
    h "Yes, but... You haven't finished yet..."
    i "It's alright, I don't mind..."
    h "But I do."
    if holly_change > 3:
        "With a bold move, Holly knelt on top of the bed and she began to lick the length of my cock."
        i "Damn, Holly..."
        h "I want to make you feel good too..."
(getting holly_change to 4 points doesn't require any sort of slut training with Ivy/Lena)
 

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Oh yeah, Holly is still acting totally insecure there:
Python:
    i "We should start getting ready to go to Emma's event. It's almost time."
    h "Yes, but... You haven't finished yet..."
    i "It's alright, I don't mind..."
    h "But I do."
    if holly_change > 3:
        "With a bold move, Holly knelt on top of the bed and she began to lick the length of my cock."
        i "Damn, Holly..."
        h "I want to make you feel good too..."
(getting holly_change to 4 points doesn't require any sort of slut training with Ivy/Lena)
I'm not saying it does, I'm saying that maybe the option to encourage her to cheat should be locked behind whether Lena is a slut and/or Ivy's involvement (such as when Lena let's Ivy handle her development.)

But you can read that too ways. Either Holly is becoming bolder because Ian's love is making her come out of her shell, or she's trying to be sexually bold to cover up for her inexperience in other areas of the relationship. Because against, she does still see herself as a burden to Ian, even later on.

I don't know if this is a bug or a simple writing inconsistency, but I think it is able to be explained through at least two perspectives, which could be easily explored in the story.
 
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