Ian x Lena is a ruse for the gullible and myopic. Lena x Holly is true love a couple who strengths cover the others weakness and together grow holistically allowing each to become their best selves. Lena helps Holly to break free from the overly protective cocoon her parents and bad HS experiences have placed around her and to embrace her talent and success. Holly helps Lena to learn to love and trust again and gives Lena the confidence to pursue her creative passion. It's a truly beautiful love story I'm getting misty eyed just writing this.
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Honestly, the NTR label at this point is kind of trivial anyway. Basically every 2nd character was, or is ntr-ing or getting ntr´d one way or another, no? Even Ian parents are cucking each other ffs 
It´s not like it would be an outlier if Holly was included in that (at some point). Technically speaking, isn´t Holly already "cheating" on Ian with Ivy?
Either way, Holly is cleary the most corruptible NPC. If you take the Ian relationship out of the equation, Lena and Ivy can have multiple 3somes with her, hook her up with Mark, twice. Encourage her to hang out with Stan, set up a hook up with Robert. From here what can we expect her progression on that route to be? 3-some with Lena+Mike, Lena+Robert, Lena+Louise, Marcel guy is bound to happen, next up drugs and bj´s in the club toilet and modelling for Billy. Also remember the "having sex with a hot stranger" confession.
So if you put that version of her in a relationship with a version of Ian that is still not over Gillian and generally beta, then fast forward it 1 or 2 chapters, I don´t see it as too far fetched for her to be talked into cheating by Lena/Ivy at max corruption, as an alternative to simply breaking up, etc. but as was said, not in the way or at the time it was presented, which was clearly a bug.
I´m not advocating it, just saying that it could have been a spicy sub-route that is unlinkely to happen.
It´s not like it would be an outlier if Holly was included in that (at some point). Technically speaking, isn´t Holly already "cheating" on Ian with Ivy? Either way, Holly is cleary the most corruptible NPC. If you take the Ian relationship out of the equation, Lena and Ivy can have multiple 3somes with her, hook her up with Mark, twice. Encourage her to hang out with Stan, set up a hook up with Robert. From here what can we expect her progression on that route to be? 3-some with Lena+Mike, Lena+Robert, Lena+Louise, Marcel guy is bound to happen, next up drugs and bj´s in the club toilet and modelling for Billy. Also remember the "having sex with a hot stranger" confession.
So if you put that version of her in a relationship with a version of Ian that is still not over Gillian and generally beta, then fast forward it 1 or 2 chapters, I don´t see it as too far fetched for her to be talked into cheating by Lena/Ivy at max corruption, as an alternative to simply breaking up, etc. but as was said, not in the way or at the time it was presented, which was clearly a bug.
I´m not advocating it, just saying that it could have been a spicy sub-route that is unlinkely to happen.
in order to go about this storyline, do you avoid Ivy teaching Holly pole dancing?
- Aug 2, 2017
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no that and the 3some with Ivy as well as Ivy's help is part of the journey. Lena x Holly is not the superficial love at first sight of Hollywood lore, though the initial attraction is there if subdued, but of falling in love over time till one day both parties know it's true.
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They say don't put your dick in crazy, but in her case, I probably still would.Allison is a walking red flag.
- May 15, 2017
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It's not a punishment. It means she feels more secure/less desperate so she feels comfortable asking him to wear the condom.
Same reason that she doesn't dye her hair if you are on her love route.
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It does feel like a punishment to me when the sex scene is worse in every way compared with the other route...
Having a conversation with Cherry while in a relationship with Lena still causes an error. Lena can still join Ivy and Holly in the showers but I believe this is a bug too since Holly still acts bashful when she kisses Lena. There's also no mention of the shower event after the kiss. I wish Lena has the option to masturbate while watching Holly and Ivy. That way, it can still be a sexy scene while preserving the consistency of the plot.
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TBF if on the relationship route she should start taking the pill or at least let Ian do some butt stuff.
It's pretty funny how Alison is lol. If Ian tells her that he liked the old hair more, she'll be like, "Oh yea, I just wanted to try it out. I'll probably go back to the old hair in a week."
She's obsessed to the point of baby trapping Ian if he ain't falling for her. Crazy ass chick, but damn if she isn't an interesting character we don't see often.
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Honestly, the NTR label at this point is kind of trivial anyway. Basically every 2nd character was, or is ntr-ing or getting ntr´d one way or another, no? Even Ian parents are cucking each other ffs
While I agree with you on point 1, Alison is less desperate finally getting her school crush (Ian and Alison liked each other in school already, but never acted on it), I think there is more to the hairdye than just one variable.
I have two Alison love route saves, one pure love from the start, one pure love route but with the Jeremy threesome. In the one with the threesome (Ian being a stud here) Alison still colours her hair and I could gain her blond version with the love route from the start once.
I think while the "love meter" has some influence here, how "hot" you consider Lena and Sherry (and if Alison knows this) also plays a role.
ORS has so much NTR set up at this point. By the end of game's completion it will be netorare heaven for people who are into this shit.
Meanwhile me who just want to see Cindy x Ian wholesome content.
Meanwhile me who just want to see Cindy x Ian wholesome content.
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- Feb 18, 2018
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But Ian/Cindy is doomed to be morally dubious by its very premise. How can you possible expect wholesomeness out of it?