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Honestly, it caught me a little off guard too, but I wasn't too surprised or shocked by it. That sentiment and the language used isn't uncommon. Now if I were a trans person playing this, then the language would definitely hit harder and make me really feel bad, to say the least. Therefore, adding a fourth option to at least provide a brief defense of trans people seems reasonable, and not too hard to add, if you're going to bring them up in a porn context without a trans character around to humanize them. Ian: "Hey man, trans people are people too you know. And Perry can watch what he wants, live and live."My impression was that the emphasis from lifegetsweird on "extremely" was purposeful, that the issue wasn't necessarily that Wade's a transphobe or that he's able to voice it, but that the language he uses is very... striking.
Lol, you seem not to understand my message completely. And your arguments are like "it's not agism, just because I said so".Kek, no porn is not BASED on domination, racism etc.. It is based on sexually explicit imagery that is intended to cause sexual arousal. While porn can contain those things that you mentioned, it is not intrinsic to the genre. You can absolutely have porn that does not contain any of those things. However I can say that porn is indeed BASED.
No one blamed Eva for racism here (lol wut?). Also come on, this shit that Wade said about trans women is absolutely transphobic ("men with tits"? come on). It doesn't mean that Eva is herself transphobic, and no one in this thread has said that characters in this game can't say transphobic things. I would even argue that inclusion of this line is actually good because it shows that Wade is an asshole, so it is a form of a character development. The only thing that people complained was the lack of a choice to call Wade out on this shit. It is not a form of censorship. If a player wants to agree with Wade then they are free to. No one gives a fuck.
No and no. While interracial porn is sometimes racist and porn in general sometimes contains toxic masculinity it doesn't mean that these things are intrinsic to those genres. And come on, maledom doesn't have to contain toxic masculinity, you sound like a bigger SJW than me now lol.
No one suggested that she wanted to offend someone. I would say she is just a little bit uneducated on trans issues, and you know what? That is completely fine. Not everybody has time or energy to educate themselves. I am not offended, just slightly disappointed, because she is really nuanced with her writing when it comes to most issues, so her lackluster treatment of this subject stands out in a negative way when compared to the treatment of other subjects.
No one questions her right to write whatever she wants. Also it's not cEnSoRsHiP it is just a mild criticism. Also, I would even say that she can do whatever she wants in her game EVEN if she is being offensive. It's her work of art. It doesn't mean that she can't be criticised for it tho.
Just so you know, I like this game very much. And that's precisely why I would like for this game to be made even better by giving players more agency over main characters' behavior.
No it isn't.
KEK. You must be trolling here, right?
I don't think any of his dialogue is unrealistic; within the context of a friendship group that sort of language is used all the time. As I've said before, my personal view is that it'd just be nice to have a more defensive response. By all means, keep the material that's already there in place if Eva is firm that that's what Wade should be portrayed like. I don't think it's really out of place for his character.Honestly, it caught me a little off guard too, but I wasn't too surprised or shocked by it. That sentiment and the language used isn't uncommon. Now if I were a trans person playing this, then the language would definitely hit harder and make me really feel bad, to say the least. Therefore, adding a fourth option to at least provide a brief defense of trans people seems reasonable, and not too hard to add, if you're going to bring them up in a porn context without a trans character around to humanize them. Ian: "Hey man, trans people are people too you know. And Perry can watch what he wants, live and live."
If Eva is really worried about this and doesn't want to open a can of worms, but still wants to accomplish the goal of linking up Emma and Perry in terms of sexual openness, an alternative to to focus on a somewhat unusual sexual fetish that doesn't involve a class of people (blacks, trans, etc.), that Emma and Perry would both be into. Subtypes of BDSM maybe?
No, man, individually ignoring 'isms' doesn't make them go away.Living in a country with a lot of different races and ethnicities, who have historically complicated relationships, I will tell how we deal with that: we just don't talk about racial or ethnic issues. Any '-ism' ends when you just stop to talk about that.
So, considering that no transes and black were really suffered from that (at least we don't about any cases) and barely will ever suffer, why don't we just stop this keyboard war?
Lol, I can barely imagine defending trans people in a male chatter. Company of close friends (men) alone usually make racist and sexist jokes on each other and on everybody else, not caring about someone's feeling.I don't think any of his dialogue is unrealistic; within the context of a friendship group that sort of language is used all the time. As I've said before, my personal view is that it'd just be nice to have a more defensive response. By all means, keep the material that's already there in place if Eva is firm that that's what Wade should be portrayed like. I don't think it's really out of place for his character.
Good thing we're talking about having an option that you don't have to pick if your imagination doesn't extend that far then!Lol, I can barely imagine defending trans people in a male chatter. Company of men usually make racist and sexist jokes on each other and on everybody else, not caring about someone's feeling.
If it helps, you might imagine the subject being something that hits home, and can extrapolate from there.Lol, I can barely imagine defending trans people in a male chatter. Company of men usually make racist and sexist jokes on each other and on everybody else, not caring about someone's feeling.
Why? Evakiss clearly cares about the subjects presented in the game, why shouldn't we encourage conversation on the subject?Me seeing people arguing on a porn game forum:
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Seems to me the conversation is foreshadowing some pegging action?If Eva is really worried about this and doesn't want to open a can of worms, but still wants to accomplish the goal of linking up Emma and Perry in terms of sexual openness, an alternative is to focus on a somewhat unusual sexual fetish that doesn't involve a class of people (blacks, trans, etc.), that Emma and Perry would both be into. Subtypes of BDSM maybe?
Heh, I think foreshadowing is kind. It was about as subtle as a sledgehammer.Seems to me the conversation is foreshadowing some pegging action?
It's easy to do when people have empathy for others. Just imagine yourself as that "dickgirl" and think if it would feel nice to be called as just that and nothing else. Probably not.I know dickgirl and futa are popular terms in fictional porn, never thought about them being offensive but I can see why some take offense.
Tbh I as a Hetro male found the conversation normal dudes have conversations like that regularly and sometimes even worse however I agree with lifeless weird the convo wasn't necessary and could be cut out
I remember a game I played on here and a character said the N word out of nowhere and it completely ruined my immersion and frankly left a bad taste in my mouth so I sorta understand where people who are upset are coming from.
Why? If you can't deal with that banter you shouldn't be playing a porn game with cheating, corruption and so on, for your own sake.I agree with lifeless weird the convo wasn't necessary and could be cut out