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I'm kinda already disappointed with the Ivy path. It ultimately dragged on too long. At this point, even if Ian gets to bang her, it won't be as satisfying. Also a potential romance path is out of the question which was why I was so looking forward to the potential pairing. For it to happen it's gonna need Louise levels of speed running and it just won't be as satisfying. I guess I'd still be happy with the sex scene between her and Ian but meaningless sex doesn't really do much for me.
Yeah, it is starting too late. Nothing but some flirting. I also feel Louise started a bit too late, but she at least it getting a little bit of a speedrun though her path. Feels like Eva should of started both of these paths a bit sooner, now we are close to the end, so not much left for them.

I am also really disappointed that the Gillian path is starting too late also, I feel she should of came into the story around the same time as Axel and got some build up. I feel like her path has a lot of potential and intrigue, so it's sad that she didn't even show up till over halfway through the game.
 
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And she mentions none when she's Wits oriented
In chapter 11 when Lena gives Ian a footjob, if Ian asks how she learnt to do it, she says she used to sleep with her professor that was into feet. I believe this to be cannon to every Lena since she says this regardless of which version of Lena you're playing. Is this perhaps an oversight when it comes to wits Lena?
 
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I wouldnt call "wits Lena" a nerd, she's still a party girl and a nude model who dated a party boy (Axel) and was kinda freaky in bed with him. She can be a bit of a bookworm but nothing close to Holly. Or we don't have the same definition of nerd.
 

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In chapter 11 when Lena gives Ian a footjob, if Ian asks how she learnt to do it, she says she used to sleep with her professor that was into feet. I believe this to be cannon to every Lena since she says this regardless of which version of Lena you're playing. Is this perhaps an oversight when it comes to wits Lena?
Unless I'm misremembering, that has more to do with a Cuck Ian changing her background than it being some sort of cannon event in her life.
 

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I wouldnt call "wits Lena" a nerd, she's still a party girl and a nude model who dated a party boy (Axel) and was kinda freaky in bed with him. She can be a bit of a bookworm but nothing close to Holly. Or we don't have the same definition of nerd.
Wits Lena talks how she's been keeping to herself and interested only in reading books, writing her music and staying away from her peers she viewed as immature. She wasn't really a party girl, and she basically fell under Axel's influence after Ivy has introduced them, for her modeling work. It's not unlike default Ashe from GGGB getting involved with Jack and/or party scene in the game.

Also, being freaky in bed isn't mutually exclusive with being a nerd. Just look at 95% of the users of this very site. Not that most of them have means to put these desires to be freaky into actual practice but, you know. :whistle:

edit: interestingly enough, you could say that for wits Lena her "freakiness in bed" was perhaps a result of being shaped/influenced by both of her relationship partners -- between Axel's wanna-be dom tendencies and her former professor who was into getting peed on and other unconventional stuff, she's never actually been in a "vanilla relationship", so to speak. Ian (or Holly) can be potentially first such person for her.
 
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Unless I'm misremembering, that has more to do with a Cuck Ian changing her background than it being some sort of cannon event in her life.
Yeah but even though you don't pick the cuck option, if you pick the lust option she still says she use to be with a guy that was into feet stuff. And on every playthrough that Lena is with Ian she gives him the footjob. It's on Ian to say whether he likes it or not.
 
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Yeah but even though you don't pick the cuck option, if you pick the lust option she still says she use to be with a guy that was into feet stuff. And on every playthrough that Lena is with Ian she gives him the footjob. It's on Ian to say whether he likes it or not.
The feet guy was her college professor, one of her two canon relationships* no matter Lena's background:
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                l "I used to date a guy who was into foot stuff. He always asked me to do it, so I ended up becoming pretty good at it..."
                menu v11feetcuck:
                    "{image=icon_sad.webp}Tell me more...":
//...
                        i "Who was he? An ex-boyfriend?"
                        l "Not quite... We saw each other for several months, but we never got into a serious relationship... I was barely nineteen at the time, and he was quite a bit older than me..."
                        "Lena began caressing her pussy while she kept stroking my cock between her beautiful feet. This situation made me feel incredibly lewd..."
                        i "Really...? How much older?"
                        l "About twenty years or so... He was a college professor, very smart, but quite weird. He loved to lick and use my feet... and he even asked me to pee on him."
There's some more info about him that the game provides during the "Never Have I Ever" thing:
Python:
                    l "He was one of those silver foxes... A bit old, but with a very elegant presence and demeanor. And I loved the cologne he wore..."
                    l "I signed up for his tutoring sessions, partly for academic interest, partly because I was really into him. And apparently, he felt the same way about me."
                    l "We went on a few dates, but he was married, and we both knew we just wanted to satisfy our mutual curiosity and desire."
*) note how Lena mentions here that it wasn't really a relationship. So it's possible for Lena to only really have been in one "actual relationship" with the Wits background, and that being Axel.
edit: i remembered it wrong. Lena's other relationship was a guy a few years older than herself:
Python:
                    e "How many years older was your first boyfriend?"
                    l "Not that many I was sixteen and he was... twenty-one or twenty-two."
                l "He was still really a kid, but in the eyes of my teen self, he was so mature..."
                l "It wasn't until I realized that, that I matured myself. In the end, he taught me a lot, even if it was painful."
 
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I'm perplexed by how Lena broke up with Axel because he "cheated" yet herself is always in a position or in high tendency to cheat. She had so many sexual exposures, she and Ivy used to do it a lot... idk but maybe it has to do with how you play her. Ian on the other hand seems kinda nerdy, but a sweet guy
 

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To be completely honest with you in my play-through I have Lena stay loyal to Ian for the most part except with the girls. That's because, you know, who wouldn't wanna see two girls going at it. I watch all the other contents in the gallery using the gallery unlock but never in-game so it doesn't count. But it is implied in the story that even before Lena met Ian she was never an innocent girl and probably pretty promiscuous, like the professor affair, fooling around with Ivy and being ultra freaky with Axel. The only period when she becomes a nun is after her breakup with Axel and before meeting Ian.
 
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Hey it's a porn game. You have to fuck everybody at least once :whistle:...well...everybody except Stan. That honour belongs to Louise :devilish:
You think there might be a twist to those two? Idk coz Louise seems to be revolted at the mere sight of Stan.
 
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But it is implied in the story that even before Lena met Ian she was never an innocent girl and probably pretty promiscuous, like the professor affair, fooling around with Ivy and being ultra freaky with Axel. The only period when she becomes a nun is after her breakup with Axel and before meeting Ian.
Please note the handful of posts made right before yours -- Lena's past is determined by the choices you make in your game.

If potentially having whole two boyfriends in one's life total (and having something other than missionary sex with one of them) and one affair with older guy somehow counts as being pretty promiscuous... well. I have to wonder what's your idea of actual "innocent girl". Having no sex and no relationships ever and being "a nun" her whole life until meeting your MC? You'd have to admit it's pretty ridiculous metric for someone in her mid-twenties.
 

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Please note the handful of posts made right before yours -- Lena's past is determined by the choices you make in your game.

If potentially having whole two boyfriends in one's life total (and having something other than missionary sex with one of them) and one affair with older guy somehow counts as being pretty promiscuous... well. I have to wonder what's your idea of actual "innocent girl". Having no sex and no relationships ever and being "a nun" her whole life until meeting your MC? You'd have to admit it's pretty ridiculous metric for someone in her mid-twenties.
Lena is great but isn't perfect. Not because of her body count but because of her baggage. She is seriously broke, kinda a hypocrite at times, has a psycho ex-boyfriend. And that is what makes her a good character. It's because she is flawed but also very great in other areas. That's what makes her a top tier love interest.
 
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I just watched a video of Hailey Bieber pulling a copy of Portable Nietzsche and Critique of Pure Reason out of her bag. So, you know, whoever was saying that it was weird of Holly to read Schopenhauer on the beach, think about that again.

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It ultimately dragged on too long.
Absolutely. It's so obvious that Bad Jess scene should've been Ivy' instead, like come on.
 

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She can be broken up with Ian, even in a particularly ugly way or over her porn page etc and she still talks about having only two serious (trademarked) partners with the supposed third guy standing right there. There should be more deciding factors in play over how her past is decided.
This just means Ian doesn't count as serious relationship in this scenario. :sneaky:

And to be fair, i think it's kind of hard to disagree with it -- i mean, Lena and Ian in this scenario have known each other a few weeks at most, at best hooked up a few times, only just decided to make things official and then they blow the "relationship" up over Ian being crass when criticizing Lena's choice re: how much skin she wants to show online. Literally nothing about it is serious.
 
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Please note the handful of posts made right before yours -- Lena's past is determined by the choices you make in your game.

If potentially having whole two boyfriends in one's life total (and having something other than missionary sex with one of them) and one affair with older guy somehow counts as being pretty promiscuous... well. I have to wonder what's your idea of actual "innocent girl". Having no sex and no relationships ever and being "a nun" her whole life until meeting your MC? You'd have to admit it's pretty ridiculous metric for someone in her mid-twenties.
Well i mean u surely hv a point but an innocent girl would be someone like Holly. Maybe promiscuous is a strong word and I shouldn't have used that. But all I'm saying is Lena already had tons of experience before he met Ian. If anything she most certainly had more experience sex wise than Ian when they met.
 

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Well i mean u surely hv a point but an innocent girl would be someone like Holly. Maybe promiscuous is a strong word and I shouldn't have used that. But all I'm saying is Lena already had tons of experience before he met Ian. If anything she most certainly had more experience sex wise than Ian when they met.
Read the posts again, Lena only had a lot of experience if her Lust attribute is her highest one. If it's not, then she only had a few partners.

Of course, like notstaged said, she could be lying about it. But since the beach event was told from Ian's point of view, we can either take her at her word or not. I believe her, because her internal thoughts throughout the rest of the game are pretty consistent with that if you’re not playing a lust oriented Lena.
 
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