VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.6] [Eva Kiss]

[Geigi]

Always wondered, why on earth anyone would believe that there was even a chance for it? It was clear from the start that ORS isn't about extreme fetishes, and from the first Seymour appearance - that he would never let anyone else touch Lena, if he is able.

Andrea had a good idea about Seymour and Dubai which would be interesting. Then dolfe67 ruined it with crap.

 

[Stilbruch]

Would anyone be interested in a sort of remaster for GGGB with the drawings upgraded to ORS quality and added animations?
Is that something EK would even do?

 

[BlandChili]

Would anyone be interested in a sort of remaster for GGGB with the drawings upgraded to ORS quality and added animations?

Not sure, maybe. Rather I may just rip the art and view it without playing the game, I feel like I've played my fill of GGGB personally.

Is that something EK would even do?

Herself? I doubt that, but she is working with that company that manages the game release for steam and she has a network of artists, I could see it being a proper remaster actually intended for steam release, this theoretical version would probably remove the parts with incest and rape however.

 

[88stanford88]

Would anyone be interested in a sort of remaster for GGGB with the drawings upgraded to ORS quality and added animations?
Is that something EK would even do?

It would be a great idea because the scenes are unwatchable in the 4k screens
GGGB renderings come out too bright and without the choreo contrast of those present in ORS
but in the meantime, new events could be added by creating additional scenes to delve into some aspects of Ashley and what she wants to achieve...
maybe I would add scenes of her in prison to sell drugs and a way out to rehabilitate her image after prison

 

[ffive]

So in Andrea's case, she internalized her own sex life and sex fantasies (which she wants to display to the world, why else would she have a blog about it) on Lena. So whatever Andrea wants, Lena should naturally serve to experience it, ORS was supposed to be Andrea's outlet for her fantasies.

I'm going to throw a spanner in the works of this theory -- Andrea is actually a male name in some countries.

Also, you can see in threads for some other games on this forum that women are far from only people who write obsessive fanfics about characters in these games. There's plenty of guys who pen literal pages of what should happen to female protagonists in their favorite piece (often similarly only tangentially connected with the game's actual plot, if connected at all) and there's no need to guess if these are typed with one hand or two.

 

[dolfe67]

Andrea had a good idea about Seymour and Dubai which would be interesting. Then dolfe67 ruined it with crap.

How did I ruin it?

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Ivy is always a corrupting force in every facet of the game. Player choice only determines whether the corruption works.

She can't be a corrupting force in every part of the game, because she's not involved in every part of the game. Apart from Ian himself, she barely has anything to do with his side of the game. She doesn't really impact any of his friends, or the storylines connected with them.

In any case, I never suggested she wasn't a corrupting force. I only suggested she wasn't the most promiscuous person in the game, as a lot of people seem to believe. Lena and Ian are both more promiscuous than her, within the actual game. If you include everything that may have happened prior to the game, then very likely that wouldn't be the case. But I was never talking about that, so no matter how many people try to force it into the discussion, that still won't make it any more relevant.

 

[Stilbruch]

this theoretical version would probably remove the parts with incest and rape however.

I don't remember a rape scene in GGGB, what scene are you talking about?

 

[varpep]

I'm going to throw a spanner in the works of this theory -- Andrea is actually a male name in some countries.

Also, you can see in threads for some other games on this forum that women are far from only people who write obsessive fanfics about characters in these games. There's plenty of guys who pen literal pages of what should happen to female protagonists in their favorite piece (often similarly only tangentially connected with the game's actual plot, if connected at all) and there's no need to guess if these are typed with one hand or two.

ffive is actually a unisex name so ffive may actually be a unisex hamster that is a Stan lover I see you...

 

[BlandChili]

I don't remember a rape scene in GGGB, what scene are you talking about?

For example if she goes to the gang hideout and refuses to have sex with the gangbanger, he'll rape her instead. Jasmine also rapes Ash in the gym shower and arthur can drug and rape her. Ash can also end up in prison and get raped by the dominant woman there I think, though I never played that route myself.

 

[ffive]

ffive is actually a unisex name so ffive may actually be a unisex hamster that is a Stan lover I see you...

I'm actually Lola's moral fibre. But, shh.

 

[Geigi]

For example if she goes to the gang hideout and refuses to have sex with the gangbanger, he'll rape her instead. Jasmine also rapes Ash in the gym shower and arthur can drug and rape her. Ash can also end up in prison and get raped by the dominant woman there I think, though I never played that route myself.

Yikes, I didn't know that the game was so dark. Kinky and hardcore sure. It's good I played using walkthrough and avoided those routes.

 

[BlandChili]

Yikes, I didn't know that the game was so dark. Kinky and hardcore sure. It's good I played using walkthrough and avoided those routes.

Ash can get shot and die and Eva can commit suicide.

 

[Stilbruch]

For example if she goes to the gang hideout and refuses to have sex with the gangbanger, he'll rape her instead. Jasmine also rapes Ash in the gym shower and arthur can drug and rape her. Ash can also end up in prison and get raped by the dominant woman there I think, though I never played that route myself.

Oh. Never got that outcome. She either stayed away or did it willingly in my playthroughs.

 

[ffive]

Ash can get shot and die and Eva can commit suicide.

Ash can also actively work with Arthur to mind break and rape his daughter and then make her his sex pet with his magic drugs. Probably the most vile arc, makes all the cheating and drug dealing look like a walk in the park.

 

[BlandChili]

Ash can also actively work with Arthur to mind break and rape his daughter and then make her his sex pet with his magic drugs. Probably the most vile arc, makes all the cheating and drug dealing look like a walk in the park.

An altogether wholesome package

In any regard, because of these items I would predict that if Eva wanted to pursue a steam release for GGGB it would need a major overhaul and not just an artistic upgrade.

 

[prpa]

An altogether wholesome package

In any regard, because of these items I would predict that if Eva wanted to pursue a steam release for GGGB it would need a major overhaul and not just an artistic upgrade.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it would get on Steam even in its present state. Steam doesn't care as long as there's no underage content. I mean, No Mercy was on there — even after the backlash, Steam didn't remove it; it was taken down by the developers.

I'm glad I didn't play the more extreme parts of GGGB, I like it consensual, Jess route is still my favorite.

 

[Geigi]

Ash can also actively work with Arthur to mind break and rape his daughter and then make her his sex pet with his magic drugs. Probably the most vile arc, makes all the cheating and drug dealing look like a walk in the park.

Sheesh, Ashley can go from good and then bad girl to an evil woman.

 

[JoeSte91]

She can't be a corrupting force in every part of the game, because she's not involved in every part of the game. Apart from Ian himself, she barely has anything to do with his side of the game. She doesn't really impact any of his friends, or the storylines connected with them.

I never suggested she had an effect in parts of the game where she doesn't appear. You, the player, have to avoid the corruptive force. And when you don't, how is that corruption manifest? In becoming more promiscuous. The more that they share Ivy's world view, the more promiscuous the characters become.

I only suggested she wasn't the most promiscuous person in the game, as a lot of people seem to believe.

Oh, you mean, like when she takes Holly to the gloryhole, and when a sufficiently big cock comes along, Ivy tells Holly to make room, so she can help. Yeah, that doesn't demonstrate that she's experienced.

Being promiscuous does not mean she doesn't have standards. It simply means when she finds someone who meets those standards, she'll respond in sexual, and physical ways, which she does.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I never suggested she had an effect in parts of the game where she doesn't appear. You, the player, have to avoid the corruptive force. And when you don't, how is that corruption manifest? In becoming more promiscuous. The more that they share Ivy's world view, the more promiscuous the characters become.



Oh, you mean, like when she takes Holly to the gloryhole, and when a sufficiently big cock comes along, Ivy tells Holly to make room, so she can help. Yeah, that doesn't demonstrate that she's experienced.

Being promiscuous does not mean she doesn't have standards. It simply means when she finds someone who meets those standards, she'll respond in sexual, and physical ways, which she does.

Yeah, but you're still missing the point. Wherever, she got that experience, it wasn't during the game. Come on, it's not that hard to understand. Just because she might be the biggest slut, doesn't necessarily mean she's the most promiscuous person in the game. For that, she has to do this stuff during the game, and she doesn't. At least no where near as much as Lena, or Ian for that matter.

I'm not interested in proving that Ivy's not a slut. It's fairly obvious that she is, and I have zero problem with it. Any more than I have a problem with slutty Lena, slutty Holly or Chad Ian. I'm not trying to suggest that Ivy doesn't corrupt Holly or encourages Lena to fool around, it's exceptionally clear that she does. I'm just saying that during the game, she's not the most promiscuous. That is Lena, on the route where she stays single, and fools around with as many people as she can. And then it's Ian on the Chad route. How many sex scenes do Ian and Lena have in the game, and how many does Ivy have? There's absolutely no comparison. Ivy has a handful and Ian and Lena have dozens.