VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Hungover00]

Not every Tom Dick and Harry is into swinging. That is some devious shit if you want to play the friendship card first just to push the swinging agenda.

Definitely not what I was doing. What I was doing was looking at an AVN and working backwards from possible scenes and thinking of how a writer could get there and make it believable. Also, I'm not actually much of a swinging fan, but I was curious if GJess would be more than a walk-on-cameo. The one way I could see it make sense for her to get a sex scene would be one centred around consenting group sex. So, swinging. How could that happen? Jess and X become friends with Ian/Lena, hang out enough to get comfortable, actually friendly, then get horny/curious enough to see if they want to fool around. Much like Nat in GGGB.

The post you responded to that started this discussion ->


Swinging = threesomes.

Swinging is often, or even usually, two sets of couples, not one couple and a single.

 

[Gicoo]

Swinging is often, or even usually, two sets of couples, not one couple and a single.

In this context these semantics doesn't matter. Ashley/Ian ask Good Jess for a threesome or swinging, regardless if they themselves are single or not, and Good Jess always shuts them off with the same reasoning.

 

[Hungover00]

Good Jess with Ash as her partner is a closed book. Good Jess with Dave... maybe swinging is possible, but I highly doubt it, TBH.

In this context these semantics doesn't matter. Ashley/Ian ask Good Jess for a threesome or swinging, regardless if they themselves are single or not, and Good Jess always shuts them off with the same reasoning.

The main point I was pushing back against was SearingFive saying GJess with Ash and GJess with Dave might have different reactions, but not pointing out any particular evidence.

And I can't recall at the moment, what is GJess's reasoning that she always shuts down discussion of group sex with?

 

[Erectosaurus]

Ian telling Jeremy to look out for Lena during the party is like asking a Shark to keep an eye on some fish.

Though I know various factors will be at play it’ll be interesting to see if Jeremy is a bro or a hoe at the end of the day, especially since the guy is a massive simp for Ivy and does anything she says.

 

[SearingFive]

The main point I was pushing back against was SearingFive saying GJess with Ash and GJess with Dave might have different reactions, but not pointing out any particular evidence.

And I can't recall at the moment, what is GJess's reasoning that she always shuts down discussion of group sex with?

The discussion for group never came up. Jess just simply shuts down any possible flirtatious vibe. I said possibly on Dave cuz Ash is in degen mode after 5 years cuz she's with Arthur. If Jess is still in contact with her the possibility of Ash corrupting Jess is pretty high.

 

[Hungover00]

The discussion for group never came up. Jess just simply shuts down any possible flirtatious vibe. I said possibly on Dave cuz Ash is in degen mode after 5 years cuz she's with Arthur. If Jess is still in contact with her the possibility of Ash corrupting Jess is pretty high.

Oh, that's interesting. I never heard/saw that Ash was with Arthur with a GJess and Dave. Dave is when Lena doesn't fuck Robert, but works for Seymour, right? (or Ian switches things up talking to God)

That's a rare outcome, I'd think. Does Arthur make some explicit reference to Ash? Is she there in the background in Rome?

Thanks for going down the rabbit hole with me, I never would have known that alternate reality lore otherwise.


I will say though that just because GJess shuts down a flirtatious Ian, doesn't categorically stop something happening between a later Ian/Lena and GJess/partner. It just makes it less likely, or the path delayed and more difficult to navigate. Similar to threading the needle for the Holly Trinity blind.

 

[Hungover00]

Ian telling Jeremy to look out for Lena during the party is like asking a Shark to keep an eye on some fish.

Though I know various factors will be at play it’ll be interesting to see if Jeremy is a bro or a hoe at the end of the day, especially since the guy is a massive simp for Ivy and does anything she says.

At most Jeremy would have a line amounting to 'are you sure' if it there was a Ivy/Lena threesome on the table, whether or not Lena was in a committed relationship with Ian.

 

[prpa]

Ian telling Jeremy to look out for Lena during the party is like asking a Shark to keep an eye on some fish.

Though I know various factors will be at play it’ll be interesting to see if Jeremy is a bro or a hoe at the end of the day, especially since the guy is a massive simp for Ivy and does anything she says.

Depends, Jeremy is an immature horn-dog, but he can be a good friend, for example he refuses to let Lena suck his dick if she's in a relationship with Ian.

I would even say that Jeremy is better friend to Ian than Ivy is to Lena.

 

[Gicoo]

Oh, that's interesting. I never heard/saw that Ash was with Arthur with a GJess and Dave. Dave is when Lena doesn't fuck Robert, but works for Seymour, right? (or Ian switches things up talking to God)

That's a rare outcome, I'd think. Does Arthur make some explicit reference to Ash? Is she there in the background in Rome?

Procedure of exclusion.
Arthur is indicated to be rich in ORS and in GGGB he could only become so if Ashley was his partner (since he would pick her birthdate for the winning lottery ticket).
Also, Arthur only appears on a path in which Lena agreed to work with Seymour. And incidentically, this choice impacts Jess partner (Dave if Lena works with Seymour, Ashley if Lena refuses Seymour).

 

[Hungover00]

Procedure of exclusion.
Arthur is indicated to be rich in ORS and in GGGB he could only become so if Ashley was his partner (since he would pick her birthdate for the winning lottery ticket).
Also, Arthur only appears on a path in which Lena agreed to work with Seymour. And incidentically, this choice impacts Jess partner (Dave if Lena works with Seymour, Ashley if Lena refuses Seymour).

Never played his path to the end. But he potentially could become rich some other way, like pimping out his daughter or other vulnerable women. Or some contrived series of events at his workplace.

But that's solid evidence for your theory, the one path lottery ticket.

Your theory implies that the canon ending for Ash is with Arthur every time but if she lands with a Good Jess AND Lena doesn't work with Seymour (slight tangent, when does that lock in? Can Lena do one or two shoots with Seymour, but not sign the contract?).

Jack never seems to be committed to Ash, so ORS at best exists in a small slice of the multiverse after GGGB. Which is honestly kind of lame, and makes me side with the folks that believe there's too much crossover between the two games.

Ash never reunites with the BF? She never becomes a pornstar? It's only Arthur or Good Jess?

 

[Hungover00]

Procedure of exclusion.

First time I'm seeing it phrased that way. I'm used to the 'process of elimination.' Cool to see a different term for a thing.

 

[Makima's husband]

I had Lana cheat on Ian with everyone, and instead of them committing to a relationship, they hit me with the "I love you" in the beach scene... but the game is like there is zero acknowledgement, no "open relationship" but there is the option of a threesome.

 

[GokutheG]

Your theory implies that the canon ending for Ash is with Arthur every time but if she lands with a Good Jess AND Lena doesn't work with Seymour (slight tangent, when does that lock in? Can Lena do one or two shoots with Seymour, but not sign the contract?).

When Lena signs the contract is when Good Jess' partner is set. If Lena signs it Jess tells Ian that Dave is her fiance when they're having coffee. Without the contract Ash is her fiance.

 

[Hungover00]

When Lena signs the contract is when Good Jess' partner is set. If Lena signs it Jess tells Ian that Dave is her fiance when they're having coffee. Without the contract Ash is her fiance.

Cool, that's what I guessed, but didn't know.

 

[Gicoo]

Your theory implies that the canon ending for Ash is with Arthur every time but if she lands with a Good Jess AND Lena doesn't work with Seymour (slight tangent, when does that lock in? Can Lena do one or two shoots with Seymour, but not sign the contract?).

Ashley would only end up with Arthur if Lena does the same with Seymour. Else Arthur likely doesn't even appear in ORS.
So the Ashley/Arthur "bad end" is only canon if we go to the Lena/Seymour "bad end".

when does that lock in?

In chapter 9, when Seymour always proposes the unique working contract. Lena can back out of it a few times, but when she is in chapter 13 with Seymour, she is is pretty much on his path. I speculate that at this time, its very likely that it leads to the "bad" Seymour wins end. As in Seymour, Arthur, Agnes and his mayor candidate will win and Emma, Perrys dad and homeless guy will lose. On this path, Seymour always asks Lena for a meeting with Emma. I suspect at the meeting, Seymour will compromize Emma and her team in some matter, allowing him to win. If Lena isn't working with Seymour and on Emmas team, they will likely win.

 

[Hungover00]

I had Lana cheat on Ian with everyone, and instead of them committing to a relationship, they hit me with the "I love you" in the beach scene... but the game is like there is zero acknowledgement, no "open relationship" but there is the option of a threesome.

Sounds like Jeremy didn't spot your Lena with another guy at the club. Did you suck Ian's dick that night, or no ones?

What did your Lena decide before going up to the beach-house? To keep cheating, reform, or break up?

 

[Ray_D]

I had Lana cheat on Ian with everyone, and instead of them committing to a relationship, they hit me with the "I love you" in the beach scene... but the game is like there is zero acknowledgement, no "open relationship" but there is the option of a threesome.

If you did everything right you should see these options for the route you want.

 

[Makima's husband]

She gave Ian a blowjob, she had sex with Jack, she gave Mike a blowjob in the DJ booth and she even gave a blowjob to the security guard, but outside the club. Before the beach scene I don't remember but I'll have to play it again and then I'll tell you, but thanks for the help

 

[Saerwen]

If you did everything right you should see these options for the route you want.
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Did you chose to punish Lena?

 

[Ray_D]

Did you chose to punish Lena?

hehe boi.