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Is Eva ever going to release a status update where she actually has good news? I swear, in every single one of them, there is always something to complain about.
It largely depends on how you choose to look at it.

The main part of the chapter is almost ready, but I still need to add a couple of variations to a certain scene, and honestly, there’s another one I’d really like to include.
"The next update is almost ready but i want to add extra scene to it" can be seen as positive. Instead of focusing on the fact that it's not completely ready yet. It's very much a glass half-full/half-empty thing.
 

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If chapter 14 deals with Billy's trip, its not unfeasible for the game to start wrapping up in chapter 15 and 16, with a final chapter 17 having the final choices and epilogue.

Most plotlines are set and racing towards their conclusion. While it could be tempting to have this game around even longer, as in Ian and Lena fool around longer with even more characters, its clear how little they do once they got over their depression and got a foot in their potential careers and got a partner.
 

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If chapter 14 deals with Billy's trip, its not unfeasible for the game to start wrapping up in chapter 15 and 16, with a final chapter 17 having the final choices and epilogue.

Most plotlines are set and racing towards their conclusion. While it could be tempting to have this game around even longer, as in Ian and Lena fool around longer with even more characters, its clear how little they do once they got over their depression and got a foot in their potential careers and got a partner.
Yes, we're almost at the end. All that's left is to finish the MMA tournament, the book competition, and the final fight against Axel.
 
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Regulated industry is no better, do we have to talk about all the scam "micro" transactions (or giga transaction with $500 skins), lootboxes and co? AAA games unpolished or unfinished at release?
I would argue that regulated big industrys /big corpo are even worse

I am gonna pray for gta 6 man

Big corpo+ investors+payment systems+reaching a broader audiance to make unlimited growth +other big corps sony/ms + rating boards

And than its a crime game about nudity ,sex ,strippers ,drugs ,violance ,gangs ....

Yeah good luck ....

I pray that gta 6 will be different and we get good lucy jiggle physics but man that game will be toned down hard:cry::cry:talking about thr most immersive game ever created if we are super unlucky our man jason wont even see the boobs of his own gf:whistle:
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Uh, yeah. No relationship path has advanced except for all those which did have advance. A brilliant critique that gets right to the heart of the matter.
I feel conflicted as I see you as one of the most knowledgable players of this game, yet on this I believe you are wrong.

Yes I get "right to the heart of the matter", which is that all the scenes anyone has fantasized towards the beach event did not happen. Instead we had:

- More Emma degrading, "oh yes oh you're such a slut lick my ass blah-blah".
- More Lena non-cuck, "oh yes you want to see me fuck someone else blah-blah".
- More Ian/Lena not swinging, "an MFM would be really hot blah blah".
- More Holly corruption, "oh yes I have become such a slut blah blah".

All utter rubbish.

You are a scientist of this game, yet like all scientists you don't see when things go wrong, in this instance that you are the expert of a game that is completely screwed and you don't see it. You're our own personal Faulci.
 
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I feel conflicted as I see you as one of the most knowledgable players of this game, yet on this I believe you are wrong.

Yes I get "right to the heart of the matter", which is that all the scenes anyone has fantasized towards the beach event did not happen. Instead we had:

- More Emma degrading, "oh yes oh you're such a slut lick my ass blah-blah".
- More Lena non-cuck, "oh yes you want to see me fuck someone else blah-blah".
- More Ian/Lena not swinging, "an MFM would be really hot blah blah".
- More Holly corruption, "oh yes I have become such a slut blah blah".

All utter rubbish.

You are a scientist of this game, yet like all scientists you don't see when things go wrong, in this instance that you are the expert of a game that is completely screwed and you don't see it. You're our own personal Faulci.
Damm mate you are just a hater :BootyTime: easily one of the best games in VN
 

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Besides Seymour and Axel, who would you guys say are antagonists in this game? Ivy and Jeremy? Or just Ivy?
Minerva started a bit as a counterpart for Seymour, a demanding boss that the MC has to juggle with.

Ivy could be seen as one if you squint your eyes and contextualize her actions as trying to drag Lena and Holly down on her level and destroy their ambitions and reputations, but not unlike Jeremy, she is just supposed to be the horny best buddy of the MC to encourage them to embrace their lust and desist from trying to get into healthy relationships.

Gillian still has to play her hand, though I suspect the effect she had on Ian wasn't as intended as it went and her remorse is genuine. Still, she and Mike could make some last minute drama. Mike in generally comes of as too nice, considering he has zero qualms about cheating on his girlfriend. But again, I suspect that's just a side-effect of having a generic walking dick for Lena to display her seductress qualities to take a taken man (the mans perspective on this doesn't matter).

Louise can unintentionally screw up Ian and maybe Lena's plans if they just toyed with her. Stan has a low chance of lashing out as well, if Lena and Louise bully him throughout the entire game.

Alison and Cindy may have a catfight if Ian strings them along while also dating Lena. Cindy competes with Lena and Ivy in their careers, Alison can babytrap Ian.
 
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Damm mate you are just a hater :BootyTime: easily one of the best games in VN
Mate, I am as much of a hater as you are not a cuck, that tells a lot.....

It is not just one of the best games in VN, it IS the best...Except that most VN games are rubbish, I just hoped that this one would be the exception, and EK has decided it would not be.
 

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I feel conflicted as I see you as one of the most knowledgable players of this game, yet on this I believe you are wrong.
I mean, i think it's a bit absurd to talk as if the event during which a lot of relationships (not just the trinity and Ian/Lena, but also plenty of others, including Axel, Cindy, Emma, Holly and Louise) can be advanced to new status... was of little consequence in a game which is, ultimately, about nothing but relationships, and as if none of these potential developments matter.

Yes I get "right to the heart of the matter", which is that all the scenes anyone has fantasized towards the beach event did not happen.
But what specific scenes people fantasized about for that beach event that did not happen? IIRC Ian gets to have sex with pretty much every girl who attends the event. Lena, similarly, gets to fuck the people game has established she'd sufficiently close with. There's a threesome you can have the game was building towards for a long time. You can even watch Perry's hairy butthole as he nails Emma, if that's your thing.

What is it that you think was desperately missing here and that people were fantasizing about, that wasn't on a level of delusion that's Lena getting shipped to Dubai?
 

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Minerva started a bit as a counterpart for Seymour, a demanding boss that the MC has to juggle with.

Ivy could be seen as one if you squint your eyes and contextualize her actions as trying to drag Lena and Holly down on her level and destroy their ambitions and reputations, but not unlike Jeremy, she is just supposed to be the horny best buddy of the MC to encourage them to embrace their lust and desist from trying to get into healthy relationships.

Gillian still has to play her hand, though I suspect the effect she had on Ian wasn't as intended as it went and her remorse is genuine. Still, she and Mike could make some last minute drama. Mike in generally comes of as too nice, considering he has zero qualms about cheating on his girlfriend. But again, I suspect that's just a side-effect of having a generic walking dick for Lena to display her seductress qualities to take a taken man (the mans perspective on this doesn't matter).

Louise can unintentionally screw up Ian and maybe Lena's plans if they just toyed with her. Stan has a low chance of lashing out as well, if Lena and Louise bully him throughout the entire game.

Alison and Cindy may have a catfight if Ian strings them along while also dating Lena. Cindy competes with Lena and Ivy in their careers, Alison can babytrap Ian.
I see, that's good to know. Though, I was curious as to whom the 'villains' could be considered to be, besides the two obvious bad ones. And yeah, I kinda forgot about Minerva: that's a good point.

I honestly see Ivy as an inherently bad influence not just for Lena but also Holly. I do get that she's a promiscuous, shameless party girl and...well, 'slut'. (idk what other word to use xD sorry) Especially since through Ivy, Lena (of her own volition) is able to do some fked up things, like taking drugs or smoking. Maybe as a side villain of sorts, through "moral corruption" side of things? She does push for Lena to go down the similar path of depravity. (ORS version of OnlyFans, dancing as a stripper at a club, encouraging her to sleep around, the aforementioned drugs and smoking, etc.)

Just my humble opinion though but Jeremy isn't as bad with Ian as Ivy is with Lena. Besides basically 'competing' with Ian to go after Allison, the guy (surprisingly) has lines he wouldn't cross and his own 'bro code'. Like, if your relationship with him is good, he'll refuse to have Lena do things to him at the 'after party'.

Jeremy's a fuckboy but he's not someone that's morally corrupting Ian that much. Worst thing he does is tells him to not tie himself down with Lena and instead keep fucking around. (Though that's probably the 'frat bro' thing rather than moral corruption necessarily)
 

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They're not representative of her whole player base, but they are representative of the people that pays her bills. So it's probably a good idea to at least pay them lip service, no?
It is one thing to now and then make a poll with options for the patrons to decide. But letting your patrons dictate you your development cycle will never end well. Why do you think EK has so many burnouts, writing blockades, etc. like never before? She makes the mistake to let the patrons decide the development cycle.
 

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Even in jest can we not? I'm not ready to read through 100 pages of crazy Dubai theories again.
Don't worry mate. She has disappeared off the forum since Eva dropped the Seymour update. Some say she died of a broken heart :cry: (I jest but please don't mention her name. You just might summon her and that chick scares me lol).
 
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Though, I was curious as to whom the 'villains' could be considered to be, besides the two obvious bad ones.
The game doesn't focus on classical villains who are mainly there to interfere with the "heroes". Since the focus lies on the choices, Ian and Lena can avoid making antagonists/creating drama. They can ignore almost everyone and let everyone live in peace. Even Axel backs down if Lena ignores him.

Naturally, if Ian and Lena mess around with as many people as possible, they have several more issues and "antagonists" to confront sooner or later. Generally, the only one who doesn't back down and is the representative of the overarching plot is Seymour.
 
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The game doesn't focus on classical villains who are mainly there to interfere with the "heroes". Since the focus lies on the choices, Ian and Lena can avoid making antagonists/creating drama. They can ignore almost everyone and let everyone live in peace. Even Axel backs down if Lena ignores him.

Naturally, if Ian and Lena mess around with as many people as possible, they have several more issues and "antagonists" to confront sooner or later. Generally, the only one who doesn't back down and is the representative of the overarching plot is Seymour.
Makes sense. I wonder if it will be possible to keep Cindy away from Axel if Ian pursued her. It's pretty clear that she's not getting enough attention from Wade, so I'm curious if this would open up an alternative conflict with Axel, assuming he (Ian) did nothing with Lena.
 

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Makes sense. I wonder if it will be possible to keep Cindy away from Axel if Ian pursued her. It's pretty clear that she's not getting enough attention from Wade, so I'm curious if this would open up an alternative conflict with Axel, assuming he (Ian) did nothing with Lena.
On the love path (and if Ian shows boundaries), she is less interested in wildcats and more aware of Axels advances, ultimately sticking to Ian.
There is also the path when Ian helps Cindy and Wade, which leads to a healthier breakup and Cindy still conflicted. Its possible she can steer away from Axel as well, maybe even getting back with Wade.
Else, she usually falls for Axels advances.
 
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