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Besides Seymour and Axel, who would you guys say are antagonists in this game? Ivy and Jeremy? Or just Ivy?
Jeremy isn't an antagonist. Idk what makes ppl treat him as such lol Apparently being a male NPC who gets pussy is synonymous of being a bad guy.

Ivy is a mediocre wannabe homewrecker. Meh.

It's really just Axel and Seymour. Seymour is a lost cause. Axel is there for the fight mostly.

Idk. Vinny from Being a DIK is an antagonist. His presence feels somewhat threatening. He shook Tremolo. Hell he was introduced as a parallel to MC (charismatic, had an explosive rise to popularity, fought for frat's 'leadership', prone to impulsivity, etc.).

Axel... Is a jealous ex. Seymour's a rich simp.
 

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All this teasing of cuck stuff with Lena is so annoying. Especially because the only reason I play the game is for that.
And who do you want Lena to cuck Ian with Joshy? There's no hobo in this. :ROFLMAO: There's Jeremy with a BBC, but as far as I know he's not homeless.
 

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All this teasing of cuck stuff with Lena is so annoying. Especially because the only reason I play the game is for that.
It is not the reason I play, however I can understand how cuck people can feel EK has screwed them over big, super big time.
 
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Jeremy isn't an antagonist. Idk what makes ppl treat him as such lol Apparently being a male NPC who gets pussy is synonymous of being a bad guy.

Ivy is a mediocre wannabe homewrecker. Meh.

It's really just Axel and Seymour. Seymour is a lost cause. Axel is there for the fight mostly.

Idk. Vinny from Being a DIK is an antagonist. His presence feels somewhat threatening. He shook Tremolo. Hell he was introduced as a parallel to MC (charismatic, had an explosive rise to popularity, fought for frat's 'leadership', prone to impulsivity, etc.).

Axel... Is a jealous ex. Seymour's a rich simp.
Simp would imply he's trying to win m'lady over by doing good things for her. Imo, he's more of an obsessive, creepy old man who wants to have Lena for himself as a sort of trophy. Him basically blocking her attempts at a modelling career by (presumably) paying off, blackmailing or otherwise 'intimidating' people into looking the other way leans to a more "obsessive, controlling egomaniac" kind of guy, rather than a simp.
 
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Simp would imply he's trying to win m'lady over by doing good things for her. Imo, he's more of an obsessive, creepy old man who wants to have Lena for himself as a sort of trophy. Him basically blocking her attempts at a modelling career by (presumably) paying off, blackmailing or otherwise 'intimidating' people into looking the other way leans to a more "obsessive, controlling egomaniac" kind of guy, rather than a simp.
Seymour was supposed to be the "obsessive, controlling egomaniac" you're describing. Thing is, once relationship/romance is established he molds and shapeshifts into the simpy and almost submissive character that we currently have instead. Eva effectively filed his fangs.

I don't see him as a proper antagonist. If you ignore him, you can continue with your story pretty comfortably, if you interact with him long enough, he loses what little threat he used to pose. Meh.
 
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Seymour was supposed to be the "obsessive, controlling egomaniac" you're describing. Thing is, once relationship/romance is established he molds and shapeshifts into the simpy and almost submissive character that we currently have instead. Eva effectively filed his fangs.

I don't see him as a proper antagonist. If you ignore him, you can continue with your story pretty comfortably, if you interact with him long enough, he loses what little threat he used to pose. Meh.
It's kind of a similar thing with how it was in the original game, right? If you go all in on the depravity and end up screwing things up for the MC, it's no one's fault but your own.

I'm wondering if it's the dev's way of adding some 'agency' in the game. Perhaps there will even be an extended plot from the villains towards the end? Like, Lena not having enough money because she was 'too pure' and did not consider tempting fate and risking it all by going to Axel for the shoot.

Or I'm just reading too much into things and it'll just be a nothing burger.
 
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IMHO this is one of the biggest flaws EK as a developer has. Making polls with the patrons and always listening to them instead taking it as an indicator and deciding herself. The patrons are in no matter what and are often not representive of the whole player base. Also these polls end up on the lowest common position most times, which is rarely good for development.

Take the yearlong gap between new content a couple versions ago due to the patrons voted for waiting. This was certainly not good for the game development nor EK´s reputation. She should tell the players that the polls are for info-gathering what the players think, not a decisionmaker.
You know that most of us here aren't paying subscribers, right?

Seymour was supposed to be the "obsessive, controlling egomaniac" you're describing. Thing is, once relationship/romance is established he molds and shapeshifts into the simpy and almost submissive character that we currently have instead. Eva effectively filed his fangs.



I don't see him as a proper antagonist. If you ignore him, you can continue with your story pretty comfortably, if you interact with him long enough, he loses what little threat he used to pose. Meh.


Tbh, he's just as pathetic as Stan.
 

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Even in jest can we not? I'm not ready to read through 100 pages of crazy Dubai theories again.


Honestly, finding out about Dubai Porta Potties had me dry heaving for days.

Comparing Stan to Seymour is like comparing Allison's boyfriend to Jeremy.

It's just not comparable! One has a small Johnson the other has a (reasonably) bigger one!
Don't forget Stan has the Steven Seagal pony.
 

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- Not only did I not say that the beach event did not advance relationships, but I even wrote specifically that it was the only thing to take out from this update.
I know. I think i wasn't very clear in my reply, but what i meant was, the way you originally wrote it it sounded like you were dismissing those advancements as something basically worthless, or at least not important enough to make that update seem as something worth the wait, or for it to be there at all. So, i was disagreeing with that apparent take that it wasn't important.

Now, this is where it's going to be long, and this is where I am surprised - disappointed ? - that I have to mention it to you especially. Let's go path by path:

- On the Ian/Lena path: instead of the 100th fantasy "oh an MFM would be hot", the ACTUAL fucking MFM, for fuck sake.

- Or a fucking foursome with a couple met on the beach, i.e. the people Jenthe bothers on the first day (just for example)
The thing is you have that threesome either with Perry or Wade and coming very much out of the blue, or with some complete rando(s). I don't view such development for the much-awaited MMF to become anything but just another source of whining and complaints, seeing how that's basically reaction to any side-characters, even if they're already established in EK's previous game.

In other words, whoever was hoping for that, if there actually was anyone who was hoping for that, they weren't thinking clearly.

- Instead of, on the following update a cheating scene Lena/Emma, a fucking loyal FMF scene Ian/Emma/Lena at the beach (honestly I thought this was a given, when I saw it did not happen and that on the following update Lena had to cheat on Ian to trigger the potential future threesome with Emma....Well, it just proves my point, EK has utterly lost her shit)
Again, Lena/Emma was only started to be set up right before the beach trip. For this to escalate to immediate threesome with Ian included in the mix would be imo a whine bait on the level of "Lena fucks Jack as soon as he appears, muh immersionnnnn, it's ruined". Especially when, if i'm not mistaken, if Ian fucks Emma then Lena isn't even aware this is happening? I admit i'm not even sure if Ian/Emma isn't even mutually exclusive at this point. I've never looked into it in my playthrough where Ian and Lena are a couple.

- Meeting a girl on the beach and Ian Lena having a threesome with her

- Finding a nudist section on the beach and going for an orgy

- Walking at night, finding a club similar to GGGB and exploring
See above re: sex with randos and also complaints in this very thread how the Billy's party is likely to be orgy with people no one gives a flying fuck about and how much this is going to suck as nothing but a rehash of GGGB and the sign of EK's creative bankruptcy. I genuinely can't think of anyone who, prior to the beach house event, was expressing expectations for this kind of scenes there. It is possible i simply forgot, but i doubt it.

- For those on the cuck path : at long last a real fucking cuck scene for fuck sake.
With Perry, or Wade who is technically util the very end of this update in relationship, or, let me guess, some another rando? Lena even hitting on Wade out of the blue was complained about as pulled completely out of ass, you don't think it'd be ten times worse if they actually suddenly fucked?

- For those on the slut path: a fucking quickie with a guy met on the beach.

- For those on the Harem path: a foursome Holly/Emma/Lena/Ian

I could go on for ever. This beach event was a shit turd, full stop.
No, i think this is quite enough. I sincerely thank you for taking your time to write these down, i appreciate it. At the same time, i think while these scenarios are not quite Dubai-level silly, they're very much also not really something that most people who write in this thread were ever looking forward to in that update, and most of them are the opposite of those expectations. So, i think we'll have to agree to disagree -- none of that would imo make the beach event less of a turd, and if anything they'd probably make it more of something complained about.

Whoever came up with expectations for such scenes was setting themselves up for a disappointment, simple as that.
 

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Idk. Vinny from Being a DIK is an antagonist. His presence feels somewhat threatening. He shook Tremolo. Hell he was introduced as a parallel to MC (charismatic, had an explosive rise to popularity, fought for frat's 'leadership', prone to impulsivity, etc.).
Vinny is a bitch who can't do anything unless he has a gun in his hand.:BootyTime:
 
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