VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[DaLuke2]

I agree that having Mike included only based on sex but not flirt variable is a bit odd. But at the same time, that was only an early discussion, and it seems that in this update the game is rectifying it, and does take into account whether Lena continued the early flirt in her interactions with Mike in this chapter:

            i_p "How's everything on your end? Are you having a good time over there?"
//...
            if ian_lena_mmf and ian_cuck < 2:
                l_p "It's been... interesting, that's about all I dare to say! {image=emoji_ups.webp}"
                if v14_anthony_massage or v14_mike_flirt or v14_jeremy_flirt:
//...
                    if ian_lena_mmf == 2:
                        l_p "Hey, that thing we talked about... the threesome. Still think it's hot?"
//...
                    else:
                        l_p "Hey, that thing we talked about... the threesome. You still up for going through with it?"
//...
                    else:
                        i_p "Why are you asking? Do you have a new candidate?"
                        l_p "Could be... {image=emoji_shy.webp}"
                        if v14_jeremy_flirt:
                            l_p "How about Jeremy?"
//...
                        if v14_mike_flirt:
                            if ian_lena_mmf_guy != "jeremy":
                                $ ian_lena_mmf_guy = "mike"
                            l_p "Do you remember Mike?"
//...
                        if v14_anthony_massage:
                            if ian_lena_mmf_guy != "mike" and ian_lena_mmf_guy != "jeremy":
                                $ ian_lena_mmf_guy = "anthony"
                            if v14_jeremy_flirt or v14_mike_flirt:
                                l_p "I've also met this guy, Anthony... I've got a feeling we could try something with him."
                            else:
                                l_p "I've met this guy, Anthony... I've got a feeling we could try something with him."
//...

This variable doesn't hinge on having sex before, just flirting is enough to enable the interaction which activates this flag. As you can see from the snippet, the same is applied to Jeremy (as well as Anthony) who can also become a candidate now.

Yes, yes, my point exactly, that's why I specified "before this update".

I did insist that this update rectified the matter in a suprisingly agreeable direction.

Hey, for once we agree 100% on a topic ! I'll drink to that tonight.

 

[DaLuke2]

I have a feeling Jeremy might be the one exception. The variable used for most characters is Lena_'character'_dating, and this is usually set to true after a hookup of some sort. It is a little inconsistent, Seymour sets to true if you agree to work with him, even if you quit before anything sexual happens, Axel sets to true without sex, just enough interaction. Jeremy won't get this set to true unless Lena wakes him and blows or fucks him. Ivy's bday party bj is a sore spot for Ian later, and depending on choices as Ian, Jeremy will refuse, be coerced by Lena or be fine with it, but the dating variable is still false. If Lena has the BBC fetish from watching Jeremy/Louise, fantasizing about it a number of times, fantasing about Jeremy enough, he will be a choice for the 3some without Dating True, but NOT on ALL paths.

I haven't verified this to be 100% true, just what I can dig out of my memory, which isn't always right.

That is super specific. Thank you for the insight, really.

My perception, after this update, is that, for Jeremy to be an option, you must have spied on him, expressed a BBC fetish, and have enough lust to tease him. I have tested it and I confirm you NO LONGER need to have sucked him at Ivy's birthday. Which is great as far as I am concerned, as I can now save a playthrough where you get the threesome with Louise and Ian and STILL have Jeremy as an MFM option.

I wish EK changed the constraints and gave us the option to offer threesomes to Ian with Louise, Emma and Ivy without cheating on him with them, but EK is stupidly annoying like that.

 

[Gicoo]

Yet, real life is - slightly - more on my side

Good for you, we are discussing the games logic. Ian and Lena fucking strangers or guys they haven't interacted with is a much weaker narrative set-up. It makes much more sense that they involve guys Lena already had intimate encounters with to expand on that further.

That's nothing. Some players love their gf/wives, sisters, moms, aunts, grandmas cheat with their own dad, brother, other men... Some games and threads are pure comedy for example titles of NTR'd by my dad, etc. Kids these days huh?

No need to kinkshame the nastier NTR premises. It's a very old, popular and established genre. GGGB had the same with Arthur drugging his daughter and cucking his son or Ashley getting gangraped by gangsters. Granted, playing ORS with its more grounded and "normal" setting and then marching in the thread and complaining why it doesn't have the typical extreme NTR is a fools errand.

Why deny someone some personal growth!!?? Handing out answers like lolipops...

The first time I played this game at this point I was confused, then I was impressed and laughed.

The answers were in a detailed guide, do you expect the guide to hide information when players are stuck in a scene that isn't as easy to navigate out to as the others?

You may find it impressive, but almost regularly new users frequent this thread and ask how to deal with this scene. Even more frustratingly: When you give them a hint to play around a bit, some like the latest user refuse to listen and claim that's impossible, hence the more detailed guide comes in handy.

 

[JKING92]

I've got a question for the pros: While using URM and changing a variable to my liking, does the said variable get to be saved in the next update, or do I still need to monitor the changes?

And a follow up one: Lets say I don't wanna keep using the mod on the same save file that DID used it on - the changes still gonna be intact?

 

[stuffygames]

The answers were in a detailed guide, do you expect the guide to hide information when players are stuck in a scene that isn't as easy to navigate out to as the others?

You may find it impressive, but almost regularly new users frequent this thread and ask how to deal with this scene. Even more frustratingly: When you give them a hint to play around a bit, some like the latest user refuse to listen and claim that's impossible, hence the more detailed guide comes in handy.

Calm down, it was in jest, I'll add more emojiis next time.

I don't see any evidence that user was using a detailed guide, and I wasn't attacking the guide, not sure where you are going with that.

When I first played it, I 'almost' went looking for the answer, I don't have a problem with that. If you read the dialog it becomes clear. I thought it was clever use of the renpy error screens.

I have a friend that plays games while watching a youturd guide, which defeats the purpose of playing a game for me. But as I think was mentioned before, people play games differently .

 

[stuffygames]

I've got a question for the pros: While using URM and changing a variable to my liking, does the said variable get to be saved in the next update, or do I still need to monitor the changes?

And a follow up one: Lets say I don't wanna keep using the mod on the same save file that DID used it on - the changes still gonna be intact?

Changes you make with URM are saved in the save, I don't think the variables will be much affected in updates, the flags might be.

Same answer, you can remove it changes remain in the save.

Be careful with changing lots of variables, this game seems hard to break, but changing a lot of things might break stuff down the road. I'd keep a save where you haven't done modifications to be safe.

 

[varpep]

I even had two threesomes with sisters.

Phew. I thought that read as "I had two threesomes with my sisters"

 

[JKING92]

Changes you make with URM are saved in the save, I don't think the variables will be much affected in updates, the flags might be.

Same answer, you can remove it changes remain in the save.

Be careful with changing lots of variables, this game seems hard to break, but changing a lot of things might break stuff down the road. I'd keep a save where you haven't done modifications to be safe.

Gotcha, tnx.

 

[Cindy 4fun]

Any recommendations to other good games that are similar to ORS?

 

[mehGusta]

For the funny dialog! How many high fives and you are the man's are you willing to witness before it's boring, it's refreshing to see Ian/Jeremy at eath others throats a little, same with Lena/Ivy.

that is also why i'm a bit disappointed that lena has little to no love romances. cheating on someone is always done to ian. you can't really cheat on robert, you can't really cheat on mike, as his trope is to cheat on his girlfriend. in GGGB you could cheat on eric, dave and eva. if you were really devious you could even cheat on jack.
actually don't know if you can cheat on holly, but somehow don't feel that it would be fitting anyway.

though i'm still waiting on a fallout between axel and seymour. that's basically my only motivation to play either route.

 

[Meiri]

that is also why i'm a bit disappointed that lena has little to no love romances. cheating on someone is always done to ian. you can't really cheat on robert, you can't really cheat on mike, as his trope is to cheat on his girlfriend. in GGGB you could cheat on eric, dave and eva. if you were really devious you could even cheat on jack.
actually don't know if you can cheat on holly, but somehow don't feel that it would be fitting anyway.

though i'm still waiting on a fallout between axel and seymour. that's basically my only motivation to play either route.

Technically, Lena can still be with Seymour while being committed to Holly maybe that will explored in future content.

 

[mehGusta]

I don't deny you point is interesting.

Yet, real life is - slightly - more on my side: you do realize that the average couple willing to spice things up by inviting a third partner do, in majority, make a point of picking a total stranger that they will never come across ever again, right ?

Don't get me wrong, I am familiar with the threesome with the BFF or the best buddy, I even had two threesomes with sisters.

But this is NOT the majority of occurences, especially with MFMs. When you suggest one to your girlfriend and that she is open to it, most of the time she INSISTS that the third partner must be a total stranger that you will never meet again ever ever.

i think that's more of a thing for established couples. meaning those who are together so long that they know almost everything about each other and invite another because it's new and refreshing.

in college or late teens this is more of a thing of experimenting, which is also the time mostly straight girls fool around with each other. there it's more common to have a "best" friend join in on a rather recent relationship. i think that's because the committment to the relationship isn't as serious, so jealousy isn't that much of a factor. at least to good friends. one could argue that then the relationship partner is the "stranger" and the friend is an "established friend".
just my 2 cents.

 

[Yellowie The Goldie]

that is also why i'm a bit disappointed that lena has little to no love romances. cheating on someone is always done to ian. you can't really cheat on robert, you can't really cheat on mike, as his trope is to cheat on his girlfriend. in GGGB you could cheat on eric, dave and eva. if you were really devious you could even cheat on jack.
actually don't know if you can cheat on holly, but somehow don't feel that it would be fitting anyway.

though i'm still waiting on a fallout between axel and seymour. that's basically my only motivation to play either route.

I think it's possible for Lena to eventually get together with Mike. Seymour is already seen as a "sugar daddy" kind of guy, looking for a hot and smart trophy wife. Think about it: why would Mike and Seymour have love points, and many opportunities to raise them if it didn't mean that it would have an impact in the future? Beyond just sexy times.

I think it's important to note that Ian has his own version of those things too. Cindy and Minerva for example.

 

[varpep]

Cindy and Miranda for example

Who da fuck is Miranda and do she be pullin dat wagon or not?

 

[Socrambus]

No, most of the romance paths are mutually exclusive, you'll have to pick at some point.

Tbh the harem tag should be probably removed, not sure if the game currently meets even the f95 definition of it (MC with 3+ simultaneous romance partners)

You can have a relationship with Lena and cheat with Cindy, Louise and Minerva. And if you go the casual route with Lena, you can break up with her for a relationship with Cindy and at the same time you can have a relationship with Cherry, Minerva, Emma, Louise, Slut Holly and probably bad Jess too. The romantic part of some of those relationships might be up to debate, but at the very least you have Cindy, Cherry, Emma and Louise.

Although, I think that for the harem tag knowledge and acceptance of the other partners among your lovers should be a requisite. And in this case only Emma knows about Cherry (I think).

 

[ffive]

Although, I think that for the harem tag knowledge and acceptance of the other partners among your lovers should be a requisite.

Yes, exactly that. Widespread cheating with ROs being unaware they aren't the only one isn't really a harem, it's just cheating. Similar for multiple hookups with characters who aren't in exclusive relationship with MC but just fucking around as much as MC does.

 

[OdenTwoSword]

You can have a relationship with Lena and cheat with Cindy, Louise and Minerva. And if you go the casual route with Lena, you can break up with her for a relationship with Cindy and at the same time you can have a relationship with Cherry, Minerva, Emma, Louise, Slut Holly and probably bad Jess too. The romantic part of some of those relationships might be up to debate, but at the very least you have Cindy, Cherry, Emma and Louise.

Although, I think that for the harem tag knowledge and acceptance of the other partners among your lovers should be a requisite. And in this case only Emma knows about Cherry (I think).

This is basically a harem game. The MC isn’t special at all—he’s just an ordinary guy, even working as an intern. He doesn’t have a big dick like Jeremy, he isn’t handsome like Axel, and his family isn’t wealthy like Perry’s. He’s not even better than dumb Robert. Yet somehow, with just a few flirty lines, he can easily get the other characters into bed.

 

[ffive]

Yet somehow, with just a few flirty lines, he can easily get the other characters into bed.

Ian is neither a psychopath nor a creep, and doesn't have any apparent drawbacks in terms of both looks and personality. That is already above the average and it's hardly surprising women are willing to give him a chance, given the alternatives.

This is much like outrunning a bear -- you don't have to be the world's top sprinter; you just need to run faster than the other guy.

 

[OdenTwoSword]

Ian is neither a psychopath nor a creep, and doesn't have any apparent drawbacks in terms of both looks and personality. That is already above the average and it's hardly surprising women are willing to give him a chance, given the alternatives.

This is much like outrunning a bear -- you don't have to be the world's top sprinter; you just need to run faster than the other guy.

Do you think he’s moving way too fast? I mean, I only texted Louise twice, just threw in a couple of compliments, and the very next day I was already banging her like a cheap whore.

 

[Canto Forte]

While Jeremy does literally nothing and Axel blackmails them like Seymour and Robert and all the other ”Jocks” you seem to put plot armor in front of to justify them getting anything. Jeremy starts as a serial chater everybody knows who he is while his GF refuses to believe it, Lena and Ivy and everyone in thet bar/club of his knows, yet the plot armor still gets him girls, Axel is a SA like Seymour, yet they still get stuff plot armored theri way - so yeah, the guy painstakingly doing the rounds while the plot armored scriprted tropes get stuff despoite never overcoming any of their own flaws that are stated at the beginning to be their undoing, somehow makes Ian, the only charcater with a moral, professional and physical development arc outta everyone, sure he is your victim to pile on your critics. Just be blind to the harems or Jeremy, Axel and Seymour, because sure, they start off with massive following and somehow are gifted in some ungodly ways, in your mind, because plot armor throws girls their way.

with just a few flirty lines, he can easily get the other characters into bed

Do you think he’s moving way too fast?

Ian keeps going out with her and the gang for a number of days, if you are talking about some of the going out girls, while the roommate of Lena gets the scoop from her and also finds Ian in the middle of being the hot item, while Jeremy has his story and lack of any personal development catch up to him, whether you choose to see this or ignore it, while your ”studs” literally have plot armor and girls jumping on them as a story prop to pile on their tropes.