ffive

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This game makes it absolutely clear that by staying a punching bag for Jeremy, Ian would lose the tournament and only if he trains with the martial arts guy, he can actually build strength and a mindset to overcome bigger and stronger opponents.
No, it doesn't. You can in fact win the tournament fight just fine while sticking to kickboxing iirc (where Ian follows the teacher he's already had. The one who shows up later) So, not only it's absolutely not something the game makes clear, but it's pure bullshit.
 

Yoheijin

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No, it doesn't. You can in fact win the tournament fight just fine while sticking to kickboxing iirc (where Ian follows the teacher he's already had. The one who shows up later) So, not only it's absolutely not something the game makes clear, but it's pure bullshit.
Yeah and even training both skills, but first time ian must choose jiujitsu, and switch to kickboxing after his jiujitsu reach to 2 + never miss training oportunity, his jiujitsu skill can reach to 4, kickboxing 5 before the final traning. For final training i will choose kickboxing to reach 6 points, enought skill to win the match easily.
 

Yellowie The Goldie

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He only needs to go through a few challenges with each girl, and with some of them he can even just trade a few things to get them. Everything comes to him way too easily. It’s like in his past life he cut off Hitler’s dick to end World War II.
If you don't confess your love to Cindy, you actually end up not getting her in the end, I think. She ends up in Axel's possession instead.
 

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If you don't confess your love to Cindy, you actually end up not getting her in the end, I think. She ends up in Axel's possession instead.
on the contrary. if Ian confesses his love to Cindy, she will reject Axel, but she will not make a final decision. Without a confession, I think she will sleep with Axel, but she will eventually decide to stay with Ian. (based on the photos: in the first case, all the photos are present, but the photo for Ian is not signed, while in the second case, the photo is signed, but the photo with Axel's hand is missing, most likely left as a keepsake)
 

JenkinsMcCarb

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Why do you purposefully miss the point of it? Ian is dense and thinks Jeremy is his friend, but Jeremy makes a living out of banging other people's girls and cheating on his GF, Jeremy is practicing beating up other guys and taking their women, he is not helping anybody but himself.
They're like the classic male friendship duo. Borderline retarded "playa" jock who's loyal to his friend, and the smart, educated, sensitive but slightly lacking in the physical department. Unless their friendship is zero Jeremy will not steal a girl Ian has dibs on. Ian also has (rightfully so) pretty big self-esteem problems at the start of the game considering his ex cheated on him and left him a broken mess. We have no indication of what Ian was like beforehand (And maybe Chad-ish) Ian is simply a return to the norm.
 
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Ray_D

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This is basically a harem game.
No, None of the girls are willing to share Ian, except for Lena and Holly, who form a trinity with Ian in a very specific situation.
The MC isn’t special at all—he’s just an ordinary guy, even working as an intern.
That's the fun part: you start with a broken and depressed man who can either become his best self or sink even lower.
He doesn’t have a big dick like Jeremy
True, but ian make up for it with endurance.
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he isn’t handsome like Axel
True, but he makes up for it by being normal and not a man-child who can't get over his ex-girlfriend.
and his family isn’t wealthy like Perry’s.
but not poor either.
He’s not even better than dumb Robert.
That depends on your choices. You have to be pretty bad or do it on purpose to lose against Robert.
Yet somehow, with just a few flirty lines, he can easily get the other characters into bed.
You forget that Ian can fail sexually and has other types of situations that get him into trouble with girls.
 

Scarlet42

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I find it strange that people speak so definitively about the characters in this game...
The two main characters are completely blank slates. What they experience and what they think is entirely in your hands.
We also have a significant, if not complete, control over the supporting characters.
Given this, isn't it absurd to say, "This woman is this, this man is that"?
Moreover, with every new release and update, our power to control these characters grows even more.
 

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There are scripted back stories and there are recurring behaviors with the characters we discuss. There is a backbone that is not shifting with the choices and this is how we know what is essential to each of them: as discussed, even if Ian goes back to kickboxing with Jeremy, unless Ian gets some martial arts training to break the standoff he experiences with Jeremy always beating him up with no way out, he gets nowhere; it just bricks his game. Lena has to decide if all she deserves to get is abusive relationships, both professionally and romantically, as we know it is with Axel, with Seymout, with the owners of where she works - or if she stays pure and waiths out the storm, as opposed to giving in.
Ian has a scripted get out of relationship jail game progression, where he gets nowhere unless he braves the storm.
Lena just has to wait it all out and not give in, as everyone wants a piece of her.

These tropes are pulled traight outta IRL: girls get pushed around all the time, just watch Hitch and the scenarios that land girls irrespective of whom it is who does them - while guys also get pushed around by their buddies - it is inevitable and a part of how it goes for all of us. Will Smith knocks Eva Mendez out to get his way, direct kick to the head - there is no mistake there of the outright ”covert” agression that gets him to the end game.

Given this, isn't it absurd to say, "This woman is this, this man is that"?
Why Axel and Jeremy are SA perpetrators is documented IRL also, we got a ton of vids out there where you would think nobody would sign a contract or let it slide the way they portray it - but actual SA businessmen making in millions on it, until #MeToo got to a smidget of them - they are in the hundreds of thousands out there in the world.
 
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DaLuke2

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i think that's more of a thing for established couples. meaning those who are together so long that they know almost everything about each other and invite another because it's new and refreshing.

in college or late teens this is more of a thing of experimenting, which is also the time mostly straight girls fool around with each other. there it's more common to have a "best" friend join in on a rather recent relationship. i think that's because the committment to the relationship isn't as serious, so jealousy isn't that much of a factor. at least to good friends. one could argue that then the relationship partner is the "stranger" and the friend is an "established friend".
just my 2 cents.
Interesting. Maybe you are right. Unfortunately I never got the chance to have group sex in uni, only later, and yes indeed what I was saying referred to established couples. So maybe your reasoning is accurate.
 
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