VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Yoheijin]

If Ivy was testing Ian's faithfulness I'm wondering if it's only to use him as a weapon against Lena similarly to how she used Jeremy against Louise. Either blackmailing Ian for money or a favor or to attack Lena during a competitive moment in their professional careers. It would fit her MO of only fucking with people she could use in some way.

Ian x Lena couple (forgive and pure) = ivy didn't mention ian's flirt, but she's act bit offended.

Ian x Lena broken relationship = ivy will mention it.

Ian x Lena cuck path = Ivy will like it(that path is for ivy worshipers).

Ivy is = a Succubus(said lena), so cuck path is for succubus worshipers lol.

 

[ffive]

Not gonna lie, I like the set-up of Good Jess being frustrated with Dave and Ivy drugging her (with Lena being an accomplice) and having her relapse and turn into Bad Jess, in contrast to how Bad Jess starts to turn into Good Jess, developing a healthy relationship with Ian.

I don't think you even need to stoop for the trite drugs excuse for this. In fact, i hope it wouldn't be the case -- not only it's fucking lazy as far as tropes go, more often than not it doesn't have any real sense why such "relapse" would stick afterwards, given the person drugged was doing stuff under influence and not as fully conscious choice.

Lena can already give Jess her opinion that she should simply break up, and although Jess doesn't like this advice, i imagine it can have impact, much like you can make some difference with Cindy/Wade and Emma/Perry.

 

[Gicoo]

In fact, i hope it wouldn't be the case -- not only it's fucking lazy as far as tropes go, more often than not it doesn't have any real sense why such "relapse" would stick afterwards, given the person drugged was doing stuff under influence and not as fully conscious choice.

It's only a push and once she got a taste, she may be up for it for a second and third time, then without outside influence.
Relapsing and breaking the dams after just one misstep is quite common in corruption and debauchery porn.

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

the orgy of my dreams

Right? We might even take Ivy's virginity which would be quite the special moment for her.

 

[DaLuke2]

Recap of the last 30 pages - squirt, is it pee or some mystical other liquid, GAY FURY, you are up to date.

I liked the update, more than usual amount of spicy stuff. Ivy finally shedding her human form revealing the fork in her inhuman tongue. New characters were mostly alright, the hype party has the right characters.

There are lots of variations depending on what paths you have taken, which I like, so overall I would say it was a positive experience. It didn't live up to the The Pirate Update though.

The pirate update was a jewel. So much better than anything else EK has released.

 

[Exess]

The pirate update was a jewel. So much better than anything else EK has released.

I'm a little confused about that... I'm new...
Is this version different from the paid Steam version?

 

[DaLuke2]

I'm a little confused about that... I'm new...
Is this version different from the paid Steam version?

Completely different. It is a release that was addressed to us, the ones that consider that EK is talented, but is fucking around too much to pay her.

It was an amazing societal reflection, very pertinent, and with a passage into the genre (not so great but I am all about genre).

People that have just played the update and not the pirate one are missing the best thing EK has ever published.

Not fappable at all though.

But then, I have never fapped on EK.

Vanilla paths are beautifully written, but too vanilla to be fappable, and the slut paths are poorly written and I don't fap on poorly written junk.

 

[Turret]

Not gonna lie, I like the set-up of Good Jess being frustrated with Dave and Ivy drugging her (with Lena being an accomplice) and having her relapse and turn into Bad Jess, in contrast to how Bad Jess starts to turn into Good Jess, developing a healthy relationship with Ian.

Hi!
Unfortunately have to disagree with you here. I greatly dislike this trope, given how Jess and Dave were really good for each other and fitted well in GGGB. That is super-lazy by EK to bring in this like a filler for an unneeded part of the game. This whole photo shot is unnecessary for the story progression, since it is only about a couple characters.

 

[DaLuke2]

Hi!
Unfortunately have to disagree with you here. I greatly dislike this trope, given how Jess and Dave were really good for each other and fitted well in GGGB. That is super-lazy by EK to bring in this like a filler for an unneeded part of the game. This whole photo shot is unnecessary for the story progression, since it is only about a couple characters.

Couldn't agree more. I've written this before, but if this update was a prologue to an update, then this would be the best release since Chapter 9, as an hors d'oeuvre to incredible things coming up in the next few days.

Unfortunately, this is the update. Full. anything new will be after some of us have retired.

EK is just losing herself on the slut path and keeping on the slooooooooowburn on anything really half interesting.

Pretty sad actually.

 

[J0K3RXXX]

Thanks for the share.

 

[Gicoo]

Hi!
Unfortunately have to disagree with you here. I greatly dislike this trope, given how Jess and Dave were really good for each other and fitted well in GGGB. That is super-lazy by EK to bring in this like a filler for an unneeded part of the game. This whole photo shot is unnecessary for the story progression, since it is only about a couple characters.

Jess and Daves relationship didn't matter in this game until now, so its welcoming that its finally addressed AND that we can interfere with it in a meaningful way, following the games trend of corruption (or improvement of your relationship in the case of Bad Jess).

Regardless of the mansion chapter being needed or not, its there and rather than ignoring it or wishing it to be removed, improving and adding to it by further by having Lena being more involved with Jess life is a plotline with potential and rewards.

But if you just dislike the entire chapter and don't or can't discuss it, there is nothing more to it.

 

[BlitzZone]

Is there a MOD for Android? If there is, please let me know

 

[Turret]

Jess and Daves relationship didn't matter in this game until now, so its welcoming that its finally addressed AND that we can interfere with it in a meaningful way, following the games trend of corruption (or improvement of your relationship in the case of Bad Jess).

Regardless of the mansion chapter being needed or not, its there and rather than ignoring it or wishing it to be removed, improving and adding to it by further by having Lena being more involved with Jess life is a plotline with potential and rewards.

But if you just dislike the entire chapter and don't or can't discuss it, there is nothing more to it.

Hi!
Jess and Dave were part of the few good endings GGGB had. It was very clear that these two fitted together really well. Personally I feel that EK should have kept Jess, Dave, Nat and the others simply Cameos. There as a nod to GGGB, but no substantial interaction.
As for the chapter itself, I consider it more superfluous than any other chapter before storywise, but it is at least an escape from some other characters like Louise or Cindy.

 

[ffive]

Jess and Dave were part of the few good endings GGGB had. It was very clear that these two fitted together really well. Personally I feel that EK should have kept Jess, Dave, Nat and the others simply Cameos. There as a nod to GGGB, but no substantial interaction.

I think it's fine that we can see the relationship from previous game continue in a natural manner instead of "and then they lived happily ever after" and being given ability to either help it flourish again, or affect it negatively (or leave it run its natural course) In a way, this extends the GGGB experience.

 

[Gicoo]

Hi!
Jess and Dave were part of the few good endings GGGB had. It was very clear that these two fitted together really well. Personally I feel that EK should have kept Jess, Dave, Nat and the others simply Cameos. There as a nod to GGGB, but no substantial interaction.
As for the chapter itself, I consider it more superfluous than any other chapter before storywise, but it is at least an escape from some other characters like Louise or Cindy.

Why do you say hi? We both frequent this thread and you already responded to me.

Then you can just ignore Jess or simply convince her to stay with Dave? I never suggested that Ivy and Lena drugging Jess should be forced, it would clearly be a choice indicating an evil/debauched Lena who refreshes her friendship with Ivy after the recent drama. Jess is established for plenty of chapters, so suddenly ignoring her plotline and not giving her any more scenes would make them even more redundant. Good Jess was lacking development, so the recent chapter just gave an opening I consider worth exploring.

Another point to consider: If Good Jess breaks up with Dave and is on good terms with Ian, she can be open to date him, something that's currently not possible.

What is there to say. I suggest how to expand on Jess and chapter 13 content and your reply is that you aren't interested in Jess nor chapter 13 categorically, so there is only so much I can to elaborate on my ideas and only so little you can respond to.

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

But if you just dislike the entire chapter and don't or can't discuss it, there is nothing more to it.

Hi!

The chapter is fine as an introduction to new characters and potential relationships. We're dipping toes into the ending sequence of the game though so the introduction just waters down the potency of pre-existing storylines.

 

[Gicoo]

Hi!

The chapter is fine as an introduction to new characters and potential relationships. We're dipping toes into the ending sequence of the game though so the introduction just waters down the potency of pre-existing storylines.

Why can't new relationships and pre-existing ones develop side by side?

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

Why can't new relationships and pre-existing ones developed side by side?

In theory, nothing prevents that. It makes for a great story and rewards playing differently.

In practice, the branching is already complex as is. The fewer the characters and more spread out they are from one another, the easier it is to deal with them and vice versa. It creates a situation where EK has to either prioritize leading to multiple chunks of the plot ignored because the right characters can't fit in within a chapter's given context or compromise and create inconsistencies in the story.

 

[Turret]

I think it's fine that we can see the relationship from previous game continue in a natural manner instead of "and then they lived happily ever after" and being given ability to either help it flourish again, or affect it negatively (or leave it run its natural course) In a way, this extends the GGGB experience.

I see your point, still I am more of the "games should stay seperated unless it´s a series" type.

Why do you say hi? We both frequent this thread and you already responded to me.

Then you can just ignore Jess or simply convince her to stay with Dave? I never suggested that Ivy and Lena drugging Jess should be forced, it would clearly be a choice indicating an evil/debauched Lena who refreshes her friendship with Ivy after the recent drama. Jess is established for plenty of chapters, so suddenly ignoring her plotline and not giving her any more scenes would make them even more redundant. Good Jess was lacking development, so the recent chapter just gave an opening I consider worth exploring.
Another point to consider: If Good Jess breaks up with Dave and is on good terms with Ian, she can be open to date him, something that's currently not possible.
What is there to say. I suggest how to expand on Jess and chapter 13 content and your reply is that you aren't interested in Jess nor chapter 13 categorically, so there is only so much I can to elaborate on my ideas and only so little you can respond to.

Chapter 13 introduces new characters I fear will be underutilised in the remaining chapters and water down the relations of the already established characters and their stories. We already have too few development for some characters there from the start.
Well, one girl I see as Lena´s "Ivy Ersatz" on some paths if Ivy becomes even more toxic than she already has become.
ORS is already complex, with some characters on the longterm backburner. Chapter 13 introduces more characters which do not seem to be meant as "1 scene/chapter" characters, but being in the game for the rest of it. I consider this foolish, because it takes away from the main cast, which was already big.
Chapter 13 has Lena, Ivy and Jess out in the woods, so to speak, with storylines which either have to be closed up at the end of the chapter or go on into the other ones and cost time.
Do we really need this? This represents months of work which could have been better used on the major plot- and romance lines. Billy, a throwaway side character being gay is not something we needed to know in all detail. This is worktime which could have been put into e.g. the Seymour or Ian/Lena storylines. The best thing about the photo shot of ch.13 is that we can get Holly away from Ivy´s influence during her absence on the Ian side of the game. There are variables for this, looking forward to ch.14.

 

[HugoLivremore]

I see your point, still I am more of the "games should stay seperated unless it´s a series" type.

Chapter 13 introduces new characters I fear will be underutilised in the remaining chapters and water down the relations of the already established characters and their stories. We already have too few development for some characters there from the start.
Well, one girl I see as Lena´s "Ivy Ersatz" on some paths if Ivy becomes even more toxic than she already has become.
ORS is already complex, with some characters on the longterm backburner. Chapter 13 introduces more characters which do not seem to be meant as "1 scene/chapter" characters, but being in the game for the rest of it. I consider this foolish, because it takes away from the main cast, which was already big.
Chapter 13 has Lena, Ivy and Jess out in the woods, so to speak, with storylines which either have to be closed up at the end of the chapter or go on into the other ones and cost time.
Do we really need this? This represents months of work which could have been better used on the major plot- and romance lines. Billy, a throwaway side character being gay is not something we needed to know in all detail. This is worktime which could have been put into e.g. the Seymour or Ian/Lena storylines. The best thing about the photo shot of ch.13 is that we can get Holly away from Ivy´s influence during her absence on the Ian side of the game. There are variables for this, looking forward to ch.14.

how long this chapters will take and i hope this is final chapter