GibboBtw

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Hey, if Jeremy can't get laid as much as Lena, that's just skill issue on his part. :whistle:

I was talking in terms of attitude and "obsession with cocks", not how much one is able to actually follow their obsession.
Even then it feels like a bit of a shitty comparison. Jeremy is just a side character fuckboi. That's the point of him. He's not supposed to have any depth beyond that really. Lena on the other hand, on her more "normal" paths feels a bit more "real" and interesting at least IMO.

I'd rather watch her explore her music career and modeling stuff, over just watching her go from dick to dick like a women version of Jeremy.

Jeremy would be a boring af MC.
 

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Even then it feels like a bit of a shitty comparison. Jeremy is just a side character fuckboi. That's the point of him. He's not supposed to have any depth beyond that really. Lena on the other hand, on her more "normal" paths feels a bit more "real" and interesting at least IMO.
Lena is quite literally a character you get to shape with your choices, including her backstory. So, her being a "fuckgirl" who is focused on pleasures of sex is simply an option, just like Lena who is focused on songwriting is an option, and a charismatic posh Lena who wraps Seymour around her little finger is also an option.

The complaints that the option which is supposed to be sex-oriented is actually sex-oriented are just... well, plain weird to me. It's like picking a game built around feet fetish and then complaining that it's 100% feet content all the time.

Also, it's not like Jeremy's obsession with sex isn't realistic, because there's plenty of real men who are as limited in their interest as he is. It's just people get weirded out when Lena is given the same mindset because "slut, whore etc". Even though you very well can have Lena who mixes her sex enjoyment and artistic pursuits, but those suddenly cease to matter to the players as long as Lena mentions cocks, apparently.
 

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Robert's thoughtful contributions to Wikipedia articles on 17th century European warfare will sadly never receive the coverage they deserve.
I'd prefer Jeremy over Robert honestly. At least Jeremy has SOME game, Robert is just so dull, boring and uninteresting. Not to mention he has some incel behaviour if he gets rejected by Lena, like holy fuck. He gets mad-mad.
 

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Lena is quite literally a character you get to shape with your choices, including her backstory. So, her being a "fuckgirl" who is focused on pleasures of sex is simply an option, just like Lena who is focused on songwriting is an option, and a charismatic posh Lena who wraps Seymour around her little finger is also an option.

The complaints that the option which is supposed to be sex-oriented is actually sex-oriented are just... well, plain weird to me. It's like picking a game built around feet fetish and then complaining that it's 100% feet content all the time.

Also, it's not like Jeremy's obsession with sex isn't realistic, because there's plenty of real men who are as limited in their interest as he is. It's just people get weirded out when Lena is given the same mindset because "slut, whore etc". Even though you very well can have Lena who mixes her sex enjoyment and artistic pursuits, but those suddenly cease to matter to the players as long as Lena mentions cocks, apparently.
That's my point though? I get that it's all my choice. I've never said anything like "ahhh omg. why is she such a slut." or anything like that. I'm just saying I find the versions of her that are less sex obsessed to be more interesting. Like the whole Big Dick obsession is just kind of annoying. As she just starts refusing to do certain things when it gets to a certain point, like practicing her music or doing exercise. Because all she can think about is this MASSIVE COCK, and she just has to go and jill it to the mental image or whatever she can find on her phone. I would be equally annoyed if Ian suddenly became obsessed with porn and started refusing to do what I want him to do so he can bust his 5th nut of the day instead.

My main interest in this game is watching IanxLena develop more and more together. And see how their own stories play out, what with her music/modelling. And his MMA/book contest stuff. I don't have either of them slutting it up in my main game, outside of with each other, because that's hot and nice to see. :giggle:

Jeremy is the average MC of porn games though. He might seem shallow because we don't hear his thoughts. But has other characters more depth or are more interesting? Robert? Stan? Perry? Wade?
He's really not though IMO. Say if he were to replace Tremolo in BaDIK, Moreno in Intertwined, Valentine in Unbroken or Jake in Race of Life. It would be a NOTICEABLE downgrade I think. As he's got some personality outside of being a pussy obsessed fuckboi if you look hard enough sure. But I really don't think he's got anywhere near having enough about him to qualify as an interesting enough MC.

As for the other dudes in this game. I don't really give a fuck about most of them really. Wade and Perry are nice enough as friends but that's it really. And Robert and Stan can fuck off.
 
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What can i say. Well done, EK. No sarcasm, you did good - no gay shit this time.

I'm still waiting for you to add optional pregnancy into the game though, that's the only way to remedy that situation.
 

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It was a try it once to say you had, and then never again for me. She fucking loses her mind compared to what I'm used to seeing from her on her more "normal" routes. The girl ends up more cock/sex obsessed than most porn stars...o_O

I wonder if by the end of the game if you just send it fully on the slut path, if she'll be able to give Bonnie Blue a run for her money or not. :unsure:
Yeah, but Bonnie Blue...

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While slutty Lena is demon level, she is cute in comparison to Bonnie Blue who is God level. She even has that soulless look too.
 
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Jeremy is the average MC of porn games though. He might seem shallow because we don't hear his thoughts. But has other characters more depth or are more interesting? Robert? Stan? Perry? Wade?
I think a lot of people really numbing down Jeremy. I think he is pretty well written character. He is loyal and totally a bro, he won't fuck Lena if Ian is in relationship with her, even if Jeremy and Ian are enemies, he'd only fuck Lena if Ian on the cuck route. On non-cuck route, he'd literally tried to back down on the last second still thinking about his loyalty to Ian (as enemies mind you). Not saying he's like the best character or revolutionary mind you, but whenever people talk about Jeremy here, I think a lot of them didn't even read all of Jeremy dialogues when it comes to his non-sex moments.
 

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Chapter14.1.3 Beta - 2025-10-16
Along with fixing bugs and inconsistencies in some narrative branches, I've added a small scene that completes one of the developments Lena can trigger in this final chapter (wink, wink)

Whats that?
 

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I respectfully disagree and I will explain why:

I do not dislike the principle of a sluth path, not at all. Actually, the slut path was my main playthrough until the club blowjob scene in Chapter 10.

I thought the first ONS with Mike was hot, I thought Lena waking up Jeremy was hot, I thought cheating on Ian with Axel the first time was hot, damn, I even thought sex with Robert after the date with Ian was hot.

To me, there was a turning point on the slut path, one sentence announcing the downfall and EK losing her shit on the slut path, during the toilets blowjob to Mark:

"One more seed I had conquered".

Damn, this was the most ridiculous line in the history of AVNs - until the "gimme ur alpha cock" of the Jack scene that is.

Since then, the slut path has been increasingly boring and mediocre. I wish it had not been. It is.

That said, I do agree that it is poorly written only in absolute terms, but that when you compare it to not just 95% but 99,9% of other AVNs it is still superior.
I agree, the choice of wording seems wrong.

After adding Mark, she could say something like "One more notch down my belt" or something (which still seems like something a Male would say)
And the dialogue with Jack... crazy LQ.
 

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I would be equally annoyed if Ian suddenly became obsessed with porn and started refusing to do what I want him to do so he can bust his 5th nut of the day instead.
Interestingly enough, Ian can at some point start to just choose to smoke weed instead of doing something more constructive if you had him do some drugs before, and you may need a will point to break him out of that, iirc. It wouldn't surprise me if chad-maxed Ian started to display some autonomy that's about getting his dick wet instead of his older activities, in similar manner posh Lena can focus on material pleasures.
 
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