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he won't fuck Lena if Ian is in relationship with her, even if Jeremy and Ian are enemies, he'd only fuck Lena if Ian on the cuck route.
It's not exactly true -- in Ch.14 if Ian and Jeremy have unresolved conflict over Jeremy telling Ian that Lena has been cheating on him, Lena can convince Jeremy to fuck her even if Ian isn't on cuck route (it's enough if Lena made decision she'd keep cheating) and Jeremy states explicitly that he doesn't feel like he owes Ian any loyalty (anymore)
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                                                    elif lena_cheating == 2 or ian_cuck > 1:
                                                        if lena_cheating == 2:
                                                            l "Actually, I don't think Ian will mind if you and I got to... know each other a bit better. As long as we keep it a secret, that is."
                                                            j "Well, he's not my friend anymore, so I don't owe him any explanation."
                                                            l "Then we're on the same page."
He is pretty steadfast in turning the opportunity down in other scenarios, short of Lena and Ian already having agreement about a MMF.
 

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Chapter14.1.3 Beta - 2025-10-16
Along with fixing bugs and inconsistencies in some narrative branches, I've added a small scene that completes one of the developments Lena can trigger in this final chapter (wink, wink)

Whats that?
TRIGGER ALERT FOR SENSITIVE PUSSIES! GAY SEX BE HAPPENING DOWN THERE! IF YOU HAVE AN AVERSION TO ANIMATED 2D MALE MEN HAVING SEX, DO NOT PROCEED! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! ;)
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Is Ian doing Kanchō on the guy?
More like a grip for a takedown technique.:BootyTime:
TRIGGER ALERT FOR SENSITIVE PUSSIES! GAY SEX BE HAPPENING DOWN THERE! IF YOU HAVE AN AVERSION TO ANIMATED 2D MALE MEN HAVING SEX, DO NOT PROCEED! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! ;)
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I just started playing ORS again, after a lot of time, and I was wondering what paths are incompatible. The game is complex enough to make such a list rather helpful. For example, I tried to have Ian and Lena in an open relationship, only to find out later that Cindy is a big no no for Lena so I started all over again. Anyway, from a search I've done and a few trials and errors of my own I came up with these.

For Ian, Cherry/Alison, Holly/Cindy, Alison/Holly, Lena/Alison (at least in the beginning) and for Lena, Ian/Stan, Holly/Louise and Ivy/Louise. Also, if you want an open relationship between Ian and Lena (and them not lying to each other), Ian/Jeremy for Lena and Lena/Cindy, Lena/Cherry for Ian.

If I have anything wrong, please correct me and if you have something to add also please do.
 

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A new Q&A was long overdue, and now that Chapter 14.1 release cycle is finally complete, it's time!

As always, you can ask whatever might intrigue you about ORS and any related stuff. I won't give away any spoilers, but I'll try to answer to the best of my ability your to questions and comments.

If you're curious, you can also check the we did, which had a lot of great questions (and maybe yours was already answered there.)

I'll check your comments from time to time and reply to a few of them each day as I continue developing thas second and final part of Chapter 14. So, once again, thank you for supporting the project, involving yourself in the community and enjoying the game!

Ask away!
 

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Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't your critique of those other paths boil down to "humans don't think/act like slut Lena does, it's unrealistic to think things she thinks" which is well, quite arbitrary when you aren't even of the gender of people in question?

While it can be campy, i have read similar stuff in erotic fiction before (and no, not in parodies) so at the very least there are people out there who find such sentiments hot enough to write them down in their amateur porn. While this level of cringe may offend your personal sensibilities, it doesn't exactly make the content unrealistic.
You know I respect you, and out of respect I will take the time to reply thoroughly:

Make no mistakes, I am NOT offended.

At all.

I can think of nothing in life that could offend me actually. I am a bit of a libertarian (not in economics but in terms of freedoms etc.).

Conversely, there are a lot of things in life that I consider utter crap. I am a bit of a snob. Rock snob, wine snob, film snob, food snob.

Most of AVNs, for example, are utter crap. ORS is an exception. Unfortunately the sluth path is not part of the exception. Why:

I have never said that "humans don't think/act the way slut Lena does", I am saying that Lena, herself, does not.

The artful, nerdy, songwriting girl, with "her fancy way of saying things" and "goody two-shoes style", in the words of Ivy, does not.

Could such a girl be corrupted and turned into a slut ? Yeah, sure. In this instance, does it work and do I believe it ? No.

I am not saying EK should not have developed a slut path for Lena. What I'm saying is that EK failed the slut path and that it is her poorest writing.

I do not know the erotic fiction you have read, but may I suggest you read Venus Erotica by Anais Nin. Now THIS is a quality sluth path. You will then understand how I cannot be satisfied with EK's writing on that path.
 
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- Mostly interested in expected overall game length, whether we are already approaching the end (16-17 chapters) or still have wiggle room for setup and development (19-20 chapters). Or if the game expands on further, like Ian and Lena moving out in new apartments and living in relationships for a while, similar to the endgame in GGGB.

- Explanation on why non lesbian Ivy content is arguable nonexistent given her frivolous nature (no show, only tell) and the audiences high demand for her presence.
 

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It's not exactly true -- in Ch.14 if Ian and Jeremy have unresolved conflict over Jeremy telling Ian that Lena has been cheating on him, Lena can convince Jeremy to fuck her even if Ian isn't on cuck route (it's enough if Lena made decision she'd keep cheating) and Jeremy states explicitly that he doesn't feel like he owes Ian any loyalty (anymore)
Python:
                                                    elif lena_cheating == 2 or ian_cuck > 1:
                                                        if lena_cheating == 2:
                                                            l "Actually, I don't think Ian will mind if you and I got to... know each other a bit better. As long as we keep it a secret, that is."
                                                            j "Well, he's not my friend anymore, so I don't owe him any explanation."
                                                            l "Then we're on the same page."
He is pretty steadfast in turning the opportunity down in other scenarios, short of Lena and Ian already having agreement about a MMF.
I don't remember all the details for my Ian Cuck playthrough, but Jeremy didn't plow Lena even tho they have been heavily flirting up to this point. Ian and Jeremy are friends for sure, but how could they not be when Jeremy sends such awesome pictures to Ian. And I do remember Lena and Ian had talks about potential MMF threesome prospects, even Jeremy was mentioned I think. So yeah not sure why Jeremy didn't plow Lena here despite her best efforts to make it so.

Anyway... I feel like I have to replay the game from at least few chapters back, I can't shake the feeling that some minor adjustments from past chapters are messing up my routes somehow. Will do that when next update comes.
 

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It's not exactly true -- in Ch.14 if Ian and Jeremy have unresolved conflict over Jeremy telling Ian that Lena has been cheating on him, Lena can convince Jeremy to fuck her even if Ian isn't on cuck route (it's enough if Lena made decision she'd keep cheating) and Jeremy states explicitly that he doesn't feel like he owes Ian any loyalty (anymore)
Python:
                                                    elif lena_cheating == 2 or ian_cuck > 1:
                                                        if lena_cheating == 2:
                                                            l "Actually, I don't think Ian will mind if you and I got to... know each other a bit better. As long as we keep it a secret, that is."
                                                            j "Well, he's not my friend anymore, so I don't owe him any explanation."
                                                            l "Then we're on the same page."
He is pretty steadfast in turning the opportunity down in other scenarios, short of Lena and Ian already having agreement about a MMF.
If you're actually see the scene, they didn't fuck, and as I mentioned in my posts, Jeremy would actually asking if they should be doing that in the last minute, and the only way for Lena to continue further (still not fucking mind you) is if Lena was a drug addict.
 

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If you're actually see the scene, they didn't fuck, and as I mentioned in my posts, Jeremy would actually asking if they should be doing that in the last minute, and the only way for Lena to continue further (still not fucking mind you) is if Lena was a drug addict.
This was discussed in the thread before, but whether they fully fuck or not at this point depends on Lena and Ian having discussed (or not) possible MMF beforehand:
Python:
            if ian_lena_mmf and ian_lena_couple and ian_lena_open == False:
//...
        # jeremy full new sex
            else:
                $ v14_jeremy_flirt = 6
If Lena and Ian did not talk about MMF beforehand then Lena will fuck Jeremy if she convinced him to go to her room, which like i said, doesn't hinge exclusively on Ian being a cuck.

PilotLara, in fact this is something that may be worth looking at, considering how the MMF talk can send people in the wrong branch here. This initial check in v14jeremynighttalk3
Python:
            if ian_lena_mmf and ian_lena_couple and ian_lena_open == False:
should perhaps also include checks for Ian/Jeremy being on the war path i.e. v12_jeremy_crisis and v12_jeremy_crisis != "solved" and in case they're met the flow should jump to the else branch. Because currently if the player had Lena and Ian talk about MMF, this will cause the game at this point presume that Jeremy is concerned about Ian's feelings and that Lena isn't intentionally cheating on him, no matter which dialogue branch served as the entry point to this scene.
 
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This was discussed in the thread before, but whether they fully fuck or not at this point depends on Lena and Ian having discussed (or not) possible MMF beforehand:
Python:
            if ian_lena_mmf and ian_lena_couple and ian_lena_open == False:
//...
        # jeremy full new sex
            else:
                $ v14_jeremy_flirt = 6
If Lena and Ian did not talk about MMF beforehand then Lena will fuck Jeremy if she convinced him to go to her room, which like i said, doesn't hinge exclusively on Ian being a cuck.

PilotLara, in fact this is something that may be worth looking at, considering how the MMF talk can send people in the wrong branch here. This initial check in v14jeremynighttalk3
Python:
            if ian_lena_mmf and ian_lena_couple and ian_lena_open == False:
should perhaps also include checks for Ian/Jeremy being on the war path i.e. v12_jeremy_crisis and v12_jeremy_crisis != "solved" and in case they're met the flow should jump to the else branch. Because currently if the player had Lena and Ian talk about MMF, this will cause the game at this point presume that Jeremy is concerned about Ian's feelings and that Lena isn't intentionally cheating on him, no matter which dialogue branch served as the entry point to this scene.
you're talking about Ian and Lena not a couple path, that scene I mentioned was specifically talking about Ian and Lena couple path
 

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you're talking about Ian and Lena not a couple path, that scene I mentioned was specifically talking about Ian and Lena couple path
No, i am talking about Lena and Ian as couple. The condition in question (and the "limited fuck" branch) triggers if Ian and Lena are a couple who talked about MMF and are not in open relationship. The "full fuck" branch triggers when even one of these conditions ain't met, but it means that it will trigger also when some of them are met, just not all. This includes a case where Ian/Lena are a couple but Lena and Jeremy will fuck regardless -- because Jeremy is no longer Ian's friend and Lena is etiher intentionally cheating on Ian, or Ian is a cuck.
 

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It's not exactly true -- in Ch.14 if Ian and Jeremy have unresolved conflict over Jeremy telling Ian that Lena has been cheating on him, Lena can convince Jeremy to fuck her even if Ian isn't on cuck route (it's enough if Lena made decision she'd keep cheating) and Jeremy states explicitly that he doesn't feel like he owes Ian any loyalty (anymore)
Python:
                                                    elif lena_cheating == 2 or ian_cuck > 1:
                                                        if lena_cheating == 2:
                                                            l "Actually, I don't think Ian will mind if you and I got to... know each other a bit better. As long as we keep it a secret, that is."
                                                            j "Well, he's not my friend anymore, so I don't owe him any explanation."
                                                            l "Then we're on the same page."
He is pretty steadfast in turning the opportunity down in other scenarios, short of Lena and Ian already having agreement about a MMF.
Sorry for being weirdly specific about it, but I just need to sort this out in my head already. Is it possible for Lena/Jeremy to go at it in the latest update, while being in a relationship with Ian (not open), having already cheated on him multiple times (and decided to continue cheating), Jeremy alarming Ian about Lena's infidelity, the MMF tease and being a complete druggie? Or does she need at least to avoid being caught by Jeremy (with all of the above conditions intact) to trigger the scene?
 
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