VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Saerwen]

More like she is going to complete botch this character that hasn't gotten any scene with Ian in currently 5 years of work.

The only most plausible reasoning as to why EK mishandled Ivy getting with Ian is she has no clue how to write a plausible means for the two to actually hook up and make it work. I can come up with a general idea for them to work in a manner of five minutes in terms of general story. That, along with the vocal elements of her patrons wanting and demanding more fetish content and such, which takes away actual story and progression of characters in expense of panderment... Well, here we are.

OK, why don't you message Eva about it? Maybe she's truly stuck with the writing and won't mind some suggestion so you can't know if she will reject an idea unless you try.

 

[SerHawkes]

OK, why don't you message Eva about it? Maybe she's truly stuck with the writing and won't mind some suggestion so you can't know if she will reject an idea unless you try.

Lets just say prior attempts were made back when I was on her discord but were subsequently ignored.

 

[Jacowboy]

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Mr Bubu

Hi, just a heads up, there are some conditions missing for the throuple (page 122):



You need to be a couple with lena (just "dating" (as in casual relationship) doesn't work) AND you also need to have ONLY kissed Holly on her trip... without those you can't get the option and can't start the throuple at that point... =)

I was losing my mind trying to find out why it wasn't working

So there is a scene IAN x HOLLY from newest update that I didn't get on my Holly girlfriend route, I was wondering why that is. I realize I have not commited 100% on this route, but she is my girlfriend and accepted necklace and we are official..... and also I got to sleep with Emma and Allison once on this route to get spicy content from Jeremy with them. Does the solo scene from this update happen only with 100% commitment or what are the requirements? Thanks for any info.

P.S. I also did a run for the first time where Ian does not join any route with any girl until he see Slutty Holly on beach and starts contact with her. Honestly it's pretty great as you totally notice in Holly's dialogue that she absolutely loves to finally have her shot at Ian, but still remains in her sexy slutty ways. Even saying hot things like "oh if I need a place to stay I have my ways" a.k.a. just spread her gorgeous legs as rent at some dudes place

I got that scene at the very end of the update on the throuple path, so maybe it's a throuple exclusive scene?

 

[ffive]

So there is a scene IAN x HOLLY from newest update that I didn't get on my Holly girlfriend route, I was wondering why that is.

This scene is only for Trinity and more specifically, for the variant where Holly joins late what's for the most part Lena/Ian pairing. Alternatively, there's a scene for (eligible) Ian and slutty Holly who was fed to Ivy.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I wasn’t really talking about Holly as much as I was focusing on Ivy and whether she should be seen as a more negative character in terms of influence and actions, possibly even one of the main antagonists. I was responding to someone who had placed Ivy in that category.

As for Holly, I’m fine with either of her routes. I don’t only go for the “pure” character paths in the game. That said, I think it’s worth discussing. While Ivy might help Holly open up sexually and even enjoy herself in the process, I’m not sure that such abrupt and radical methods are really good for her.

Holly is very innocent and impressionable. You can clearly see how easily she gets pulled into everything, with very little resistance. Sure, you could argue that she’s getting something out of it and even seems happy on that route, but I still think she’s at risk of facing real disappointments, negative experiences, and relationships that aren’t always healthy.

Unlike Holly, Ivy seems to have enough distance, experience and self-control to stay emotionally detached from those kinds of relationships. I’m less confident that Holly has that same ability. I’m also not entirely sure things will turn out well for her in the end. It all depends on what Eva Kiss has planned.

Will Holly become a sexually liberated, confident woman ? Or will she end up trapped in a cycle of throwaway relationships where she’s treated like an object, with little control over what’s happening, and ultimately hurt ? A lot could still happen. But for now, based on how this is being portrayed in the game, it doesn’t feel especially positive either.

And just to be clear, I’m not saying this from a moralizing or puritanical point of view. That’s not where I’m coming from, and it’s not part of my values.


I also have doubts about the Jeremy-Ivy relationship and what Eva Kiss might have planned for this route. At first glance, it seems unlikely that they’d have a serious relationship since they’re both players and more casual types. However, it does feel like there’s something going on, as they seem to have been circling each other for a while.

Ivy teases Jeremy a lot but doesn’t seem to give in to his advances. As far as we know, they haven’t slept together yet. Jeremy seems pretty fixated on Ivy, while she hesitates to take things further and asks Lena for advice. Jeremy himself looks a bit awkward and even asks Lena to put in a good word for him with Ivy to get a chance.

There’s definitely some tension between them at least. As for whether they’re really meant for each other, honestly, I have no idea. Maybe not. Ivy seems to prefer ambitious men who know what they want. Jeremy can come off as a bit immature and awkward in relationships, seeming like he just wants to have fun and doesn’t really own up to his mistakes.

That said, we don’t know much about Jeremy beyond the surface. His character feels pretty superficial so far. Maybe he can grow, whatever direction this goes. And whether Ivy and Jeremy could make a "balanced" couple ? I have no clue there either.


Regarding your last point, I wonder if Ivy will change, if she’s even capable of it, and whether that would be a good thing. Does Eva Kiss have different routes and possible developments planned for her, or will she just keep the same role and kind of influence she already has ? Honestly, I have no idea.

That said, I don’t really see her settling into an exclusive relationship or becoming "pure" or more tame sexually. I don’t think there will be any real romance with this character, even with Ian. I imagine only the “chad Ian” might interest her for a while, but it probably wouldn’t be a stable or permanent relationship.

For now, Ivy remains a fairly minor character. Given how far along we are in the game, I find it hard to imagine any radical or complete change in her personality. It remains to be seen what Eva Kiss has in store for her.

Jeremy is fixated on Ivy, precisely because she hasn't slept with him. He's used to women not putting up much resistance, because they're eager to sample his big cock. Lena, Louise, Emma and Alison, are all fairly easily smitten, and Jeremy barely has to do anything to get them into bed. Whereas Ivy seems quite willing to wait, as if it's not a really huge deal for her. When they go back to her place, she even allows Lena, to have an free run at Jeremy's BBC, when she could easily have joined in. It's like she's saying to Jeremy, I'm no pushover and you'll have to work hard to get me.

The irony about Ivy, is that everyone thinks she's the biggest slut in the game, but apart from Lena and Holly, she's not slept with anybody so far. Of all the main characters, she's actually slept around the least. And although she gives off this aura of being easy, she's totally not. She's a very sexually confident girl, who is extremely skilled in the bedroom, and she's obviously not willing to give that away, to just anybody. And I think that's the big problem with Jeremy, from Ivy's perspective. She just doesn't consider him to be her equal? She wants to be a top glamour model, whereas Jeremy is perfectly satisfied being a barman in a nightclub

 

[Maccabbee]

Jeremy is fixated on Ivy, precisely because she hasn't slept with him. He's used to women not putting up much resistance, because they're eager to sample his big cock. Lena, Louise, Emma and Alison, are all fairly easily smitten, and Jeremy barely has to do anything to get them into bed. Whereas Ivy seems quite willing to wait, as if it's not a really huge deal for her. When they go back to her place, she even allows Lena, to have an free run at Jeremy's BBC, when she could easily have joined in. It's like she's saying to Jeremy, I'm no pushover and you'll have to work hard to get me.

The irony about Ivy, is that everyone thinks she's the biggest slut in the game, but apart from Lena and Holly, she's not slept with anybody so far. Of all the main characters, she's actually slept around the least. And although she gives off this aura of being easy, she's totally not. She's a very sexually confident girl, who is extremely skilled in the bedroom, and she's obviously not willing to give that away, to just anybody. And I think that's the big problem with Jeremy, from Ivy's perspective. She just doesn't consider him to be her equal? She wants to be a top glamour model, whereas Jeremy is perfectly satisfied being a barman in a nightclub

Absolutely none of that is true, in my playthrough at least. Also, lots of Ivy's exploits are implied and off-camera. She's fucking other guys while toying with Jeremy, and says her endgame is probably to bang him. I am not sure what the cannon actuality is, as it changes so much on different variables.

 

[Esti]

You can also avoid Allison fucking Jeremy.

By quite literally being with her all the time she is in Jeremy's general vicinity. Once you looked in any other direction... She's gone.

At least Cindy can be near Axel for prolonged stretches of time without Ian nearby and not fall for him. Yes, you need to set boundaries, but that's a smart thing to do anyway.

 

[Saerwen]

Jeremy is fixated on Ivy, precisely because she hasn't slept with him. He's used to women not putting up much resistance, because they're eager to sample his big cock. Lena, Louise, Emma and Alison, are all fairly easily smitten, and Jeremy barely has to do anything to get them into bed. Whereas Ivy seems quite willing to wait, as if it's not a really huge deal for her. When they go back to her place, she even allows Lena, to have an free run at Jeremy's BBC, when she could easily have joined in. It's like she's saying to Jeremy, I'm no pushover and you'll have to work hard to get me.

The irony about Ivy, is that everyone thinks she's the biggest slut in the game, but apart from Lena and Holly, she's not slept with anybody so far. Of all the main characters, she's actually slept around the least. And although she gives off this aura of being easy, she's totally not. She's a very sexually confident girl, who is extremely skilled in the bedroom, and she's obviously not willing to give that away, to just anybody. And I think that's the big problem with Jeremy, from Ivy's perspective. She just doesn't consider him to be her equal? She wants to be a top glamour model, whereas Jeremy is perfectly satisfied being a barman in a nightclub

Within a reason. Jeremy have only good looks and endowment going for him. His personality and not so great stamina/skill in bed on the other hand are not to be envious about... He even admitted that Ian lasts longer than him, that's more important than having a big dick.

Absolutely none of that is true, in my playthrough at least. Also, lots of Ivy's exploits are implied and off-camera. She's fucking other guys while toying with Jeremy, and says her endgame is probably to bang him. I am not sure what the cannon actuality is, as it changes so much on different variables.

Yes, Ivy have a selfie sucking off a black guy.

 

[niko182]

Before this, I was a stickler for Cindy's route, I wouldn't even consider other female characters! But now I just wish I had seen Cindy and Axel's sex scene sooner, I already knew Cindy wasn't worth it, she could betray Wade why not Ian? I'm starting to like Alison!

my guess is that it depend f the relation, if its for fun or serious with her

 

[Esti]

my guess is that it depend f the relation, if its for fun or serious with her

No, it depends on whether you set boundaries with her, once in serious relationship, or not.

 

[MagicMan753]

No, it depends on whether you set boundaries with her, once in serious relationship, or not.

No, even if you didn't set boundaries, she said she stopped it before anything actually happened, so they didn't have sex in that one either, there be some minor things.thay happened, but she stopped it, then you set boundaries right there.

Also it's insinuated that she does norhing with Axel on high Wade route either, so its not just setting boundaries that stops it.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Absolutely none of that is true, in my playthrough at least. Also, lots of Ivy's exploits are implied and off-camera. She's fucking other guys while toying with Jeremy, and says her endgame is probably to bang him. I am not sure what the cannon actuality is, as it changes so much on different variables.

However, many she goes with, it's a drop in the ocean compared to Ian and Lena, and now Holly after her gloryhole adventure. At this point, Lena and Holly are both in double figures, with Ian not far behind.

 

[Maccabbee]

However, many she goes with, it's a drop in the ocean compared to Ian and Lena, and now Holly after her gloryhole adventure. At this point, Lena and Holly are both in double figures, with Ian not far behind.

None of that happened in my playthrough. Ian in my playthrough has only definitely been with Gillian and Lena. None other mentioned, but more are possible in the past. Lena has only slept with Ian. No others. Holly, poor thing, hasn't slept with anyone at all.

 

[NewSeal]

There's certainly a point by which Holly becomes more outgoing, sexier and confident. Then she starts doing gloryholes.

Thank you for pointing out how poorly developed the escalation of Holly's corruption is.

 

[mnemosynememory]

There's certainly a point by which Holly becomes more outgoing, sexier and confident. Then she starts doing gloryholes.

And that was a jump, I let Ivy have her way with her in the hopes we were going to hang out together, and eventually add Minerva to our party, but Ivy had another plans ... honestly, if this is real life, I would be cutting ties with Ivy, makes no sense

 

[Jacowboy]

huh, I just noticed, why is there a harem tag for this game?

 

[GibboBtw]

huh, I just noticed, why is there a harem tag for this game?

lmao, I was gonna post something about that.

Not a true harem game by any stretch.

Assume it has it because of the holy trinity? Or the threesomes Ian+Lena can have together with other women??

Or Eva has some mad stuff in mind for later in the game idk

 

[Jacowboy]

nah, it's probably just another case of bad tagging in this site... hardly the first time, or the last.

 

[AlphaDlaW]

Jeremy is fixated on Ivy, precisely because she hasn't slept with him. He's used to women not putting up much resistance, because they're eager to sample his big cock. Lena, Louise, Emma and Alison, are all fairly easily smitten, and Jeremy barely has to do anything to get them into bed. Whereas Ivy seems quite willing to wait, as if it's not a really huge deal for her. When they go back to her place, she even allows Lena, to have an free run at Jeremy's BBC, when she could easily have joined in. It's like she's saying to Jeremy, I'm no pushover and you'll have to work hard to get me.

The irony about Ivy, is that everyone thinks she's the biggest slut in the game, but apart from Lena and Holly, she's not slept with anybody so far. Of all the main characters, she's actually slept around the least. And although she gives off this aura of being easy, she's totally not. She's a very sexually confident girl, who is extremely skilled in the bedroom, and she's obviously not willing to give that away, to just anybody. And I think that's the big problem with Jeremy, from Ivy's perspective. She just doesn't consider him to be her equal? She wants to be a top glamour model, whereas Jeremy is perfectly satisfied being a barman in a nightclub

ivy fucked mike. she is very slutty. its just been happening off screen.

 

[Saerwen]

huh, I just noticed, why is there a harem tag for this game?

The only way a harem could happen is if both Ian and Lena share all love interests specifically Lena both male and female. This have more chance to be as a power trip when using drugs or Eva make some sort of fake ending/breaking the fourth wall because there's no way that a harem could work. So, I'm guessing harem is considered that you can have sex with multiple characters/be in a threeway relationship and that's it.