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By your premise, we might as well assume that Lena's brother is a upstanding politician, or that Gillian's boyfriend is Tony Soprano, because they've never been shown to do anything in the game that we've been told about them, and in your scenario we completely ignore context clues to the contrary.

Ivy is not forthcoming. We can tell that from how she keeps information from Lena about both Axel and Mike, and maybe others that I'm not even remembering. When Lena confronts her over Mike, Lena is able to guess, correctly, that they hooked up because Ivy says that she and Mike get along. Lena, her best friend, who knows Ivy best, understands that when she gets along with a guy, they hook up.

Pretending that she's not promiscuous simply because she's not a POV character is absurd. Lena and Ian would have to follow her around, tied at her hip, to reach the burden of proof of her promiscuity that you're asking for.
I'm not pretending anything. All I'm talking about is facts, and what you're talking about are possibilities. The reality is that Lena and Ian did do those things, whereas what you're suggesting about Ivy might have have happened, if your hypothesis is correct, and there's no guarantee that it is. There is likely a very high probability that Ivy is a very promiscuous person, and if you could see everything that goes on in her life, maybe you could come to a different conclusion. But we can't, and therefore we cannot say that she is the most promiscuous person in this game, with any degree of accuracy. You pretty much acknowledge that above. But you're never going to agree with me, because you're talking about something completely different to me. What I'm talking about, relates to the original comment that I made, and what you're talking about, is what other people have introduced into this discussion.

In any case, it doesn't matter who started the game as the most promiscuous person, because it's fairly clear that Lena will end up occupying that position by the end of it, if you allow her to. Just like Ashley eventually superceded Jessica in Good Girl Gone Bad. And it's becoming increasingly clear that slutty Holly (who is modelling herself on Ivy and the sluttier version of Lena) won't be that far behind.
 
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In any case, it doesn't matter who started the game as the most promiscuous person, because it's fairly clear that Lena will end up occupying that position by the end of it, if you allow her to. Just like Ashley eventually superceded Jessica in Good Girl Gone Bad. And it's becoming increasingly clear that slutty Holly (who is modelling herself on Ivy and the sluttier version of Lena) won't be that far behind.
Given the gloryhole scene one could argue Holly is currently leading the race to slutsville. ;)
 
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Don't forget Ivy has an onlyfans (or whatever it's called). Showing your pussy/ass in full screen taking dildos, isn't that promiscuous? Do nuns do that?

"But we don't see it" -> ok stop your bad faith now
In this case we do see it. Lena can look at Ivy's stalkfap and see very un nun like behavior. Strange that Ian can't yet subscribe to it, given he can follow Ivy, jack it to Jess' porn, and subscribe to Lena's stalkfap.
 

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You only agree with Zara, because you want to believe in your holy virgin Ivy waifu.


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I don't think we agree at all. I know Ivy is a slut (we have her own words to that effect). I just don't agree that she's the biggest slut in this game. If all the things she's probably getting up to, outside of gameplay, were instead featured in the game, then I would have to agree with you people. But they're not, so it's not actually part of the game. And no matter how many times some people try to say that it is, it won't make it so.

In the case of Jessica, she had a much higher profile in Good Girl Gone Bad, than Ivy does in this game. Because one of the main focuses of that game, was Ashley modelling herself on Jessica and then eventually superceding her. That resulted in Jessica featuring in many more sex scenes, than Ivy does in this one. I mean so far we haven't even seen Ivy with a man, except that one brief BJ scene with Jeremy, at the end of Truth or Dare. So it was easy to say that Jessica was a big slut in Good Girl Gone Bad, because we actually saw lots of evidence of it. Whereas, with Ivy we only have a few lesbian scenes and an awful lot of maybes.

Ashley starts off Good Girl Gone Bad, as a relatively innocent girl, with limited sexual experience. Whereas Lena already has quite a lot of sexual experience, with many different partners, and she's already confident enough with her body and sexuality to pose nude in public. After her relationship with Axel ends badly, she temporarily loses some of her confidence, and it might seem to begin with that she's similar to Ashley at the start of Good Girl Gone Bad. But she isn't. Underneath that illusory shyness, there's a temptress waiting to re-emerge. And although she might appear to be the sweet girl that Ian initially envisages, there's also the girl that was corrupted by Axel and Ivy, and has the potential to be slutty and deceitful, if the player allows it. It doesn't take Ivy's intervention for Lena to succumb to Mike's charms. She's already become his slut long before Ivy gives her drugs, and she knows that Mike has a girlfriend, so she's effectively doing the same thing that Cherry did to her. And she apparently has no real problem with that. On the contrary, it turns her on even more.

So this idea, that Ivy is primarily responsible for Lena becoming a cheating slut is nonsense. She starts the game with that potential, and the lion's share of the corrupting was done by Axel. His deceitful actions, the kind of relationship he manipulated Lena into and the idea that it was ok to cheat, all comes down to him. Ivy has always been clear, that she doesn't believe in getting tied down. She believes that girls like her and Lena should stay single, so all these complications that Lena is currently dealing with, never materialise. She's adamant that Lena shouldn't get into a relationship with Ian, precisely because she believes that Lena will find it difficult not to cheat. And even if she doesn't, she's constantly struggling with temptation, because her natural inclination is to flirt with people she finds attractive. And that's not down to Ivy, it's entirely down to the kind of person that she is. Maybe when they were teenagers, Ivy played a big role in making Lena more comfortable with the idea of being slutty, but for a long time she's either been mainly influenced by Axel (they had a master/slave relationship, and she pretty much did whatever he suggested) or more recently it's been Seymour, who's convinced her that people like him and her can have it all, and ordinary mortals are just their playthings.

Seymour is very likely intending to mould Lena into a total bitch, who's the equal of the controlling bastard that he is. All that discussion about the 'The Child' and how they're destined for greatness, by controlling lesser mortals. He believes that Lena can be just like him, if she's given the right guidance. I guess it's lonely at the top, and he wants a companion, that he views as his equal. But of course, that will likely be at the expense of everyone in her life that she currently thinks of as a friend.
 
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Given the gloryhole scene one could argue Holly is currently leading the race to slutsville. ;)
We can only hope. I love previously innocent girls being corrupted into whores. And sweet little Holly was so innocent. The greater the fall, the greater the ecstacy (at least in these games anyway). But Lena is a protagonist, so it's inevitable she'll end up as top dog in the slut stakes.
 

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I don't think we agree at all. I know Ivy is a slut (we have her own words to that effect). I just don't agree that she's the biggest slut in this game. If all the things she's probably getting up to, outside of gameplay, were instead featured in the game, then I would have to agree with you people. But they're not, so it's not actually part of the game. And no matter how many times some people try to say that it is, it won't make it so.

In the case of Jessica, she had a much higher profile in Good Girl Gone Bad, than Ivy does in this game. Because one of the main focuses of that game, was Ashley modelling herself on Jessica and then eventually superceding her. That resulted in Jessica featuring in many more sex scenes, than Ivy does in this one. I mean so far we haven't even seen Ivy with a man, except that one brief BJ scene with Jeremy, at the end of Truth or Dare. So it was easy to say that Jessica was a big slut in Good Girl Gone Bad, because we actually saw lots of evidence of it. Whereas, with Ivy we only have a few lesbian scenes and an awful lot of maybes.

Ashley starts off Good Girl Gone Bad, as a relatively innocent girl, with limited sexual experience. Whereas Lena already has quite a lot of sexual experience, with many different partners, and she's already confident enough with her body and sexuality to pose nude in public. After her relationship with Axel ends badly, she temporarily loses some of her confidence, and it might seem to begin with that she's similar to Ashley at the start of Good Girl Gone Bad. But she isn't. Underneath that illusory shyness, there's a temptress waiting to re-emerge. And although she might appear to be the sweet girl that Ian initially envisages, there's also the girl that was corrupted by Axel and Ivy, and has the potential to be slutty and deceitful, if the player allows it. It doesn't take Ivy's intervention for Lena to succumb to Mike's charms. She's already become his slut long before Ivy gives her drugs, and she knows that Mike has a girlfriend, so she's effectively doing the same thing that Cherry did to her. And she apparently has no real problem with that. On the contrary, it turns her on even more.

So this idea, that Ivy is primarily responsible for Lena becoming a cheating slut is nonsense. She starts the game with that potential, and the lion's share of the corrupting was done by Axel. His deceitful actions, the kind of relationship he manipulated Lena into and the idea that it was ok to cheat, all comes down to him. Ivy has always been clear, that she doesn't believe in getting tied down. She believes that girls like her and Lena should stay single, so all these complications that Lena is currently dealing with, never materialise. She's adamant that Lena shouldn't get into a relationship with Ian, precisely because she believes that Lena will find it difficult not to cheat. And even if she doesn't, she's constantly struggling with temptation, because her natural inclination is to flirt with people she finds attractive. And that's not down to Ivy, it's entirely down to the kind of person that she is. Maybe when they were teenagers, Ivy played a big role in making Lena more comfortable with the idea of being slutty, but for a long time she's either been mainly influenced by Axel (they had a master/slave relationship, and she pretty much did whatever he suggested) or more recently it's been Seymour, who's convinced her that people like him and her can have it all, and ordinary mortals are just their playthings.

Seymour is very likely intending to mould Lena into a total bitch, who's the equal of the controlling bastard that he is. All that discussion about the 'The Child' and how they're destined for greatness, by controlling lesser mortals. He believes that Lena can be just like him, if she's given the right guidance. I guess it's lonely at the top, and he wants a companion, that he views as his equal. But of course, that will likely be at the expense of everyone in her life that she currently thinks of as a friend.
Sorry, but it seems like you’ve created an idealized, overly sexualized version of Lena in your head, and you’re unwilling to accept that not everyone sees or plays her that way. You tend to treat anyone who portrays her differently as if they’re wrong, and at this point, there’s really no point in arguing with you — you seem completely set in your ways.
 

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What might and is "implied" about her happenings is more so under the rank and file of off-screen action. And no one cares about what happens off screen anyways.
I care. You're virginal bride to be has been cheating on you and didn't even care to bring the portable cuck chair.

Very likely. Lola is the biggest whore around the block.
You know what. I no longer care. You no longer deserve to cuck chair, you can stand.
 

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"Sprites for brand-new NPCs " (plural) Who are we thinking this might be?
Additional model(s)? Photographer? Porn producer? Or another cameo?
Iris and/or Tyrone? Though they technically wouldn´t be brand new.
 
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"Sprites for brand-new NPCs " (plural) Who are we thinking this might be?
Additional model(s)? Photographer? Porn producer? Or another cameo?
Iris and/or Tyrone? Though they technically wouldn´t be brand new.
I hope it's new characters, it's getting kinda dull with a new cameo every Lena-related update. We didn't have one in the last one I suppose, unless you count Mark who wasn't new, but Arthur and Jack were in the two ones previously.

The NPC's could be anyone I suppose. We have plenty of potential photographers in the game so I could see it being other hopefuls like Lena and Ivy.
 
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Like a lot of people, you don't seem to have grasped the point I'm trying to make. I'm talking about the game as a whole, and not just one particular route. If you say someone is the most promiscous person in the whole game, then obviously you're not talking about individual routes, but all of them combined. And repeatedly, people keep saying 'I didn't play it that way' and totally ignoring what I'm actually saying. I get it, a lot of people are totally invested in a particular route, and don't like hearing stuff that appears to contradict there own particular fantasies. But unfortunately, that doesn't make them right in this instance.
i get your point now, and you do have a point. but the reason why it was hard to understand, is because your point is so obvious, i didn't fathom that being your point lol, like, of course she won't be the most promiscuous "in the game". SHES NOT THE MAIN CHARECTER lol. my main point is, although we don't see ivy hooking up with people left and right, that doesnt mean shes not the sluttiest. we don't see Jessica hooking up left and right but we know who she is. same thing with ivy. using the content of the story, it's obvious. as far as lena and ian goes, and them acting slutty, we're seeing them become that. ivy is already that person. if i had sex with 1000 people, crazy example lol, and then decided to relax a bit and slow it down while my bestfriend starts sleeping around more than me one year, sleeping with lets say 20 people to my 5, that does not make them more promiscous then me. im taking a break while they're still trying to catch up to me lol. this is the case with ivy. shes been their, done that. she's chill right now and has fully embraced and become a bad bitch who loves sex. lena and ian, on the path where they fuck everyone, are only catching up to who ivy already is. also, we should end this conversation here. to many debates on this subject.
 
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At this point we are beating the rotting corpse of a dead horse. I don't even remember what the discussion was about. Ivy being a slut/most promiscuous or it being the protagonists? At this point I could give a rats ass.

Let's change topic. What new npcs are you guys hoping to see in the upcoming update. I hope we get a few new models and photographers. Down the line I can't wait for Chad Wade an Lena to get together.
 
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Imma be honest, I don't want new NPCs.

I feel like ORS is at the tail end of its story. Eva is throwing random scenes with every update almost to fill a checklist. Lena's solo hookup with Jeremy and Emma. Ian getting either slut Holly, Minerva or Louise out of the blue, etc.

Imo, both MCs have enough relationship prospects that can be improved on and polished.

I wanna see more Bad Jess lore or Ivy making a move on Ian. Maybe a lil more Gillian. I don't like Lena's male LIs in general. Maybe Mike or Wade. I just don't want Wade to turn into Dave from GGGB.

Axel, Jeremy, Stan (lmao), Robert (LMAO), they all bland as hell. Billy has the presence of a wet noodle. Seymour is beyond disappointing.
 

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But you're never going to agree with me, because you're talking about something completely different to me. What I'm talking about, relates to the original comment that I made, and what you're talking about, is what other people have introduced into this discussion.
We are talking about the same thing, you're just refusing to acknowledge context clues that don't support your argument. Because you can't see everything that goes on in her life, you're saying she's not as promiscuous as Lena. Despite the facts within the story of the game suggesting otherwise towards things that we cannot see. And I'm not talking about anything other than what comes up during the course of the game.

In every single route, Ivy is the same promiscuous person and acts as a corrupting force. If she's not there, other people can or may act as corrupting forces, but that doesn't change who Ivy is. And unlike someone like Holly, how you play the game doesn't affect her. You can't soften her, or make her any less than what she is or how she reacts to external stimuli, which we have a whole host of examples to demonstrate, even if the pov characters don't see it first hand. But because they don't see it first hand, you'll ignore it.

This isn't Schrodinger's cat. There's enough circumstantial evidence to infer whether the cat is dead or alive.
 

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Imma be honest, I don't want new NPCs.

I feel like ORS is at the tail end of its story. Eva is throwing random scenes with every update almost to fill a checklist. Lena's solo hookup with Jeremy and Emma. Ian getting either slut Holly, Minerva or Louise out of the blue, etc.

Imo, both MCs have enough relationship prospects that can be improved on and polished.

I wanna see more Bad Jess lore or Ivy making a move on Ian. Maybe a lil more Gillian. I don't like Lena's male LIs in general. Maybe Mike or Wade. I just don't want Wade to turn into Dave from GGGB.

Axel, Jeremy, Stan (lmao), Robert (LMAO), they all bland as hell. Billy has the presence of a wet noodle. Seymour is beyond disappointing.
Meh, I know it's down to taste but I'm not very impressed with Lena's prospects so far. That's not to say they should be neglected. We still have to find out what a character like Eli will get up to.

Eva will be adding these characters whether we like it or not too, though to be fair I doubt Eva is giving us many additional romances anyway, at least not necessarily. I'd expect most new characters to fall into the Bubba or Kevin classificaiton. As someone who finds Stan, Robert, Mike and so on rather irksome sexual options I welcome the chance to get some content with some other characters for Lena.
 
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i get your point now, and you do have a point. but the reason why it was hard to understand, is because your point is so obvious, i didn't fathom that being your point lol, like, of course she won't be the most promiscuous "in the game". SHES NOT THE MAIN CHARECTER lol. my main point is, although we don't see ivy hooking up with people left and right, that doesnt mean shes not the sluttiest. we don't see Jessica hooking up left and right but we know who she is. same thing with ivy. using the content of the story, it's obvious. as far as lena and ian goes, and them acting slutty, we're seeing them become that. ivy is already that person. if i had sex with 1000 people, crazy example lol, and then decided to relax a bit and slow it down while my bestfriend starts sleeping around more than me one year, sleeping with lets say 20 people to my 5, that does not make them more promiscous then me. im taking a break while they're still trying to catch up to me lol. this is the case with ivy. shes been their, done that. she's chill right now and has fully embraced and become a bad bitch who loves sex. lena and ian, on the path where they fuck everyone, are only catching up to who ivy already is. also, we should end this conversation here. to many debates on this subject.
At this point we are beating the rotting corpse of a dead horse. I don't even remember what the discussion was about. Ivy being a slut/most promiscuous or it being the protagonists? At this point I could give a rats ass.

Let's change topic. What new npcs are you guys hoping to see in the upcoming update. I hope we get a few new models and photographers. Down the line I can't wait for Chad Wade an Lena to get together.
We are talking about the same thing, you're just refusing to acknowledge context clues that don't support your argument. Because you can't see everything that goes on in her life, you're saying she's not as promiscuous as Lena. Despite the facts within the story of the game suggesting otherwise towards things that we cannot see. And I'm not talking about anything other than what comes up during the course of the game.

In every single route, Ivy is the same promiscuous person and acts as a corrupting force. If she's not there, other people can or may act as corrupting forces, but that doesn't change who Ivy is. And unlike someone like Holly, how you play the game doesn't affect her. You can't soften her, or make her any less than what she is or how she reacts to external stimuli, which we have a whole host of examples to demonstrate, even if the pov characters don't see it first hand. But because they don't see it first hand, you'll ignore it.

This isn't Schrodinger's cat. There's enough circumstantial evidence to infer whether the cat is dead or alive.
Stop feeding the troll! They're never gonna change their minds, never gonna admit someone else is right unless they are in full agreement. STOP IT. You're just polluting the thread.
 

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NGL, until you pointed out the filename i thought this was supposed to be Alison... :whistle:
Could have been. I posted some AI slop on the fan art thread recently and it's tough getting it to differentiate between the characters, I end up with the wrong character having a different hair colour constantly.
Alison and Minerva have very similar hair color though, so that's probably not the case here. :geek:
 
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