VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Gicoo]

All the writers that Ian and Holly meet are fantasy writers. Are there no Tom Clancy or John Grisham-types in Hierofant's stable of writers?

Why not make Victor White the author of "Jack Reacher-esque" vigilante thrillers, or have Holly be the author of a series of right wing political thrillers where Holly's main character is a CIA hitman who assassinates Middle Eastern terrorists and Russian/North Korean/Chinese warmongers?

Victor writes Science Fiction.
Elaborating on the writing genres wouldn't add to the game. It doesn't focus on the content. We interact with Holly for 13 chapters and we have no concrete idea of what her book series is about. Because it only matters indirectly to her character development.

 

[Markel100]

I wonder if Cindy will get pregnant by Ian on their romance path? She keeps talking about not knowing what she wants, and Eva loves doing "bred by someone she didn't expect" endings, so I could see Cindy's path ending with her becoming a Stay At Home Mom and finding she loves being a mother and traditional housewife.

If there's going to be any pregnancy it would be Alison she clearly wants kids she just looking for the stability to take that plunge.

 

[Swiver]

Victor writes Science Fiction.
Elaborating on the writing genres wouldn't add to the game. It doesn't focus on the content. We interact with Holly for 13 chapters and we have no concrete idea of what her book series is about. Because it only matters indirectly to her character development.

Yeah though it does pique my curiosity to see judging the songs/novel has been made objective and technical, and I do respect the effort, between the lag the shift of mechanics creates and the fact that it's all ultimately shit pulp, that's my least favourite part of playing, even cringier than the wrestling minigame.

 

[Markel100]

Yeah though it does pique my curiosity to see judging the songs/novel has been made objective and technical, and I do respect the effort, between the lag the shift of mechanics creates and the fact that it's all ultimately shit pulp, that's my least favourite part of playing, even cringier than the wrestling minigame.

I just hope they actually matter end game when it comes to endings cause picking the right choices gets tedious alot of times

 

[varpep]

I wonder if Cindy will get pregnant by Ian on their romance path? She keeps talking about not knowing what she wants, and Eva loves doing "bred by someone she didn't expect" endings, so I could see Cindy's path ending with her becoming a Stay At Home Mom and finding she loves being a mother and traditional housewife.

This got me thinking what the character's children will look like . Cindy and Axel's kids are going to be literally perfect and absolute psychos lol. Perry and Emma's kids are going to be either very short or very tall. Jeremy and Alison's kids are going to be tall and well endowed in all departments. Wade and Lena's kids are gonna be supermodels (a man can dream can't he?). Ian and Holly's kids are going to be adorable and just perfect. So SerHawkes doesn't crucify me, Ian and Ivy's kids are going to perfect

 

[Swiver]

I just hope they actually matter end game when it comes to endings cause picking the right choices gets tedious alot of times

Agreed, but sure will be alright at least for the ending in terms of financial/social success/failure (I think in GGGB everything was sort of tied up more or less neatly in various ending montages, even if some of the stuff built up to did not become relevant during "gameplay"). Would be more worth it if we get to play through some of the resulting circumstances, though, which should be the plan I think, otherwise there's a whole bunch of loose dots, not just the novel and lyrics stuff but between the various options wtih Seymore, asking the family for or loaning them money, buying the gifts, paying out rent, kissing minerva's ass... I mena it can't be all for nothing!

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Victor writes Science Fiction.
Elaborating on the writing genres wouldn't add to the game. It doesn't focus on the content. We interact with Holly for 13 chapters and we have no concrete idea of what her book series is about. Because it only matters indirectly to her character development.

I think Holly said she writes adventure novels with a female lead, maybe fantasy, even though she only mentioned it briefly and without many details. She tells Lena that she makes up for her shyness and flaws through the characters she creates and says Lena would be the perfect heroine in her eyes.

Correct me if I’m wrong, that’s just something I remembered. But yeah, the game’s story doesn’t really reveal much about that, and it’s not really important. Still, it makes me curious about what she might write.

 

[Vengeance_11]

Holly’s book is called The Ice Flower. That seems like a very on the nose parody of A Game of Thrones to me, and with a soon to be released sequel, this could lead to a book series that parodies A Song of Ice and Fire. (At least if Ivy’s influence doesn’t lead to her exploring the idea of erotic fiction)

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Bi-curious would be the right word.

I’d say both bisexual and bicurious fit Holly. She’s clearly bisexual in her feelings for Lena on that route, while her unrequited feelings for Ian are still there after what happened between them early in the game. And of course, the three-way relationship with Ian, Holly and Lena also fits within that context.

On the Ivy and Lena route, she’s more in a phase of exploring her sexuality, so she’s bicurious at that point. During that time, she’s open to being with girls but still spends time with guys who seem to remain her main focus, at least that’s how I see it.

To me, the term bicurious implies more of a slight attraction or sexual openness toward people of the same sex, while bisexuality involves both sexual and romantic attraction to both sexes without distinction.

 

[ffive]

All the writers that Ian and Holly meet are fantasy writers. Are there no Tom Clancy or John Grisham-types in Hierofant's stable of writers?

If you get a job at Hierofant your early task is to go through a sample of submissions they get as a publisher. It's quite broader than just fantasy.

 

[ffive]

I’d say both bisexual and bicurious fit Holly.

I think the whole "bicurious" thing is just bullshit word mincing. No one bothers to ever say a dude is "gaycurious" when they start fucking other guys.

(bisexuality doesn't require even interest in both sexes, and that's in fact pretty rare; lot of people are leaning one way or the other, with some preference for one gender)

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

I think the whole "bicurious" thing is just bullshit word mincing. No one bothers to ever say a dude is "gaycurious" when they start fucking other guys.

(bisexuality doesn't require even interest in both sexes, and that's in fact pretty rare; lot of people are leaning one way or the other, with some preference for one gender)

I’m not really involved in this kind of situation. Here, I’m just trying to follow how people use these terms. As for whether they reflect real-life experiences or not, that’s a debate I’d rather avoid since it’s a pretty tricky subject. Personally, I don’t really care what people do in bed. That’s their business.

To answer what you were saying about bisexuality, it’s true that someone doesn’t need to be equally attracted to both sexes. Some people feel a stronger pull toward one over the other, sometimes just temporarily. Others don’t draw any distinction at all. The LGBTQ vocabulary includes many other terms to describe these different experiences, though I’m not really an expert on them myself. It’s not really a topic I’m passionate about, to be honest.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Holly’s book is called The Ice Flower. That seems like a very on the nose parody of A Game of Thrones to me, and with a soon to be released sequel, this could lead to a book series that parodies A Song of Ice and Fire. (At least if Ivy’s influence doesn’t lead to her exploring the idea of erotic fiction)

Ah thanks I totally forgot that was the case. I think all the books submitted for publication at Hierofant have parody titles of real books right? It would be a great idea if Ivy could influence the kind of fiction Holly writes as that would show her changing interests and her development in that direction.

 

[MF_DOOM]

Checked last report on dev page and looks like there is some fans of guy-guy action
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[varpep]

I think the whole "bicurious" thing is just bullshit word mincing. No one bothers to ever say a dude is "gaycurious" when they start fucking other guys.

As long as they say no homo then it's not gay to fuck other dudes especially if it's your bro.

 

[Saerwen]

As long as they say no homo then it's not gay to fuck other dudes especially if it's your bro.

It's only gay if you are a bottom.

 

[GibboBtw]

It's only gay if the BALLS touch.

fixed it for you*

 

[BlandChili]

(bisexuality doesn't require even interest in both sexes, and that's in fact pretty rare; lot of people are leaning one way or the other, with some preference for one gender)

That's the case with me. Not everyone in the LGBT community view sexuality and romantic interest as distinct, but I have always identified as bisexual+homoromantic because I've never had a crush on a man. That hasn't stopped me from enjoying being fucked hard by one tho!

(I just end such encounters by saying "no hetero!")

Personally, I don’t really care what people do in bed. That’s their business.

Paintball match!

As long as they say no homo then it's not gay to fuck other dudes especially if it's your bro.

In Ian and Jeremy's case they are slowly working up to it with bicurious high-fives..

 

[Swiver]

He's a good character, portrayed quite realistically, as an incel. But it's not realistic that he's a LI for Lena. He's at best a side character like Ed the cafe owner.

I agree, at least how their relationship has been written thus far, there hasn't been enough ground lain for the choice, for Lena to like him (in the context of an EvaKiss VN).

Unlike most games, the most important feature of EK's writing, I think, is not leaving the emotional reasoning behind the MC's actions for your imagination. Instead your choices are used to develop the MC's feelings, then those are codified in clear monologues and conversations. There's some exceptions when we get radically aberrant choices, usually for the over the top routes and the superslut h-scenes with little LI development. (The polar opposite, where contradicting the personal development is necessary for the eventful plot, is Village Slut...)

I can very much see a way to make the Stan route reasonable if he's developed as the opposite of Axel AND Ian either does not pursue her or turns up the toxicity, he can be a safe haven for a hurt Lena who, based on our choices, has lost interest in "Chads" or finds them threatening. He'd be similar to what Ashley was for Good Jess (or like

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?). Of course a manipulative Lena also can have a Stan route, either as a training experiment for her camgirl or sugar baby routes (but the latter is wobbly enough as it is and she porbably should drop Stan once she hooks the big fish).

It's only gay if you are a bottom.

 

[sunreaper]

This game is so good that the waiting is killing meeh