VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

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Ebonheart (FR) said:
I’d say both bisexual and bicurious fit Holly.
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I think the whole "bicurious" thing is just bullshit word mincing. No one bothers to ever say a dude is "gaycurious" when they start fucking other guys. :whistle:

(bisexuality doesn't require even interest in both sexes, and that's in fact pretty rare; lot of people are leaning one way or the other, with some preference for one gender)
 
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ffive said:
I think the whole "bicurious" thing is just bullshit word mincing. No one bothers to ever say a dude is "gaycurious" when they start fucking other guys. :whistle:

(bisexuality doesn't require even interest in both sexes, and that's in fact pretty rare; lot of people are leaning one way or the other, with some preference for one gender)
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I’m not really involved in this kind of situation. Here, I’m just trying to follow how people use these terms. As for whether they reflect real-life experiences or not, that’s a debate I’d rather avoid since it’s a pretty tricky subject. Personally, I don’t really care what people do in bed. That’s their business.

To answer what you were saying about bisexuality, it’s true that someone doesn’t need to be equally attracted to both sexes. Some people feel a stronger pull toward one over the other, sometimes just temporarily. Others don’t draw any distinction at all. The LGBTQ vocabulary includes many other terms to describe these different experiences, though I’m not really an expert on them myself. It’s not really a topic I’m passionate about, to be honest.
 
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Vengeance_11 said:
Holly’s book is called The Ice Flower. That seems like a very on the nose parody of A Game of Thrones to me, and with a soon to be released sequel, this could lead to a book series that parodies A Song of Ice and Fire. (At least if Ivy’s influence doesn’t lead to her exploring the idea of erotic fiction)
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Ah thanks I totally forgot that was the case. I think all the books submitted for publication at Hierofant have parody titles of real books right? It would be a great idea if Ivy could influence the kind of fiction Holly writes as that would show her changing interests and her development in that direction.
 
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ffive said:
(bisexuality doesn't require even interest in both sexes, and that's in fact pretty rare; lot of people are leaning one way or the other, with some preference for one gender)
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That's the case with me. Not everyone in the LGBT community view sexuality and romantic interest as distinct, but I have always identified as bisexual+homoromantic because I've never had a crush on a man. That hasn't stopped me from enjoying being fucked hard by one tho! :whistle:

(I just end such encounters by saying "no hetero!")
Ebonheart (FR) said:
Personally, I don’t really care what people do in bed. That’s their business.
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varpep said:
As long as they say no homo then it's not gay to fuck other dudes especially if it's your bro. :whistle:
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In Ian and Jeremy's case they are slowly working up to it with bicurious high-fives.. :eek:
 
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dolfe67 said:
He's a good character, portrayed quite realistically, as an incel. But it's not realistic that he's a LI for Lena. He's at best a side character like Ed the cafe owner.
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I agree, at least how their relationship has been written thus far, there hasn't been enough ground lain for the choice, for Lena to like him (in the context of an EvaKiss VN).

Unlike most games, the most important feature of EK's writing, I think, is not leaving the emotional reasoning behind the MC's actions for your imagination. Instead your choices are used to develop the MC's feelings, then those are codified in clear monologues and conversations. There's some exceptions when we get radically aberrant choices, usually for the over the top routes and the superslut h-scenes with little LI development. (The polar opposite, where contradicting the personal development is necessary for the eventful plot, is Village Slut...)

I can very much see a way to make the Stan route reasonable if he's developed as the opposite of Axel AND Ian either does not pursue her or turns up the toxicity, he can be a safe haven for a hurt Lena who, based on our choices, has lost interest in "Chads" or finds them threatening. He'd be similar to what Ashley was for Good Jess (or like
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It's only gay if you are a bottom. ;)
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varpep said:
As long as they say no homo then it's not gay to fuck other dudes especially if it's your bro.
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Geigi said:
It's only gay if you are a bottom.
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notstaged said:
Perry needs to be sent to an Abu Ghraib style feminization camp where he will undergo extensive Red Sparrow training by being subjected to waterboarding in a bathtub full of estrogen on the daily basis before his ass can be considered eligible for tapping.
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Markel100 said:
If there's going to be any pregnancy it would be Alison she clearly wants kids she just looking for the stability to take that plunge.
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Normally, as someone who is into breeding, I'd be all about Alison.

However... Given her likelyhood of wanting to baby trap Ian and likely yanderism, I CHOOSE LIFE!
 
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swiver said:
I agree, at least how their relationship has been written thus far, there hasn't been enough ground lain for the choice, for Lena to like him (in the context of an EvaKiss VN).

Unlike most games, the most important feature of EK's writing, I think, is not leaving the emotional reasoning behind the MC's actions for your imagination. Instead your choices are used to develop the MC's feelings, then those are codified in clear monologues and conversations. There's some exceptions when we get radically aberrant choices, usually for the over the top routes and the superslut h-scenes with little LI development. (The polar opposite, where contradicting the personal development is necessary for the eventful plot, is Village Slut...)

I can very much see a way to make the Stan route reasonable if he's developed as the opposite of Axel AND Ian either does not pursue her or turns up the toxicity, he can be a safe haven for a hurt Lena who, based on our choices, has lost interest in "Chads" or finds them threatening. He'd be similar to what Ashley was for Good Jess (or like
You must be registered to see the links
?). Of course a manipulative Lena also can have a Stan route, either as a training experiment for her camgirl or sugar baby routes (but the latter is wobbly enough as it is and she porbably should drop Stan once she hooks the big fish).

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The issue with Stan as a LI is that he doesn't "develop" at all to the point where he's within the vicinity of being a good LI for Lena. Stan remains consistently shy/awkward, he stays a slodge physically, never gets any initiative or loses the 'creepy'/unkept look. The character stays stationary.

It makes Lena falling for him pretty out of character. In Lena's POV, she's often vocal/complimentary of behavioral/physical features she likes.

It feels less like Stan drops the incel-y vibe and thus gets a shot with Lena and more like YOU (as a player) are always navigating toward a positive outcomes for him.

It's the same reason I hate Perry as a character. He never develops no matter how often you try to be a bro with him. He stays a man-child who's likely to throw fits.

Meanwhile Wade, who's chill from the get-go, you can actually give him a 'good' outcome which positively impacts his behavior. It's rewarding to ensure that character's well-being.

Also something about tribal tattoos, a moustache and caving Axel's skull in, but that's a fight for another day.
 
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IlikebeingaDIK said:
The issue with Stan as a LI is that he doesn't "develop" at all to the point where he's within the vicinity of being a good LI for Lena. Stan remains consistently shy/awkward, he stays a slodge physically, never gets any initiative or loses the 'creepy'/unkept look. The character stays stationary.

It makes Lena falling for him pretty out of character. In Lena's POV, she's often vocal/complimentary of behavioral/physical features she likes.

It feels less like Stan drops the incel-y vibe and thus gets a shot with Lena and more like YOU (as a player) are always navigating toward a positive outcomes for him.

It's the same reason I hate Perry as a character. He never develops no matter how often you try to be a bro with him. He stays a man-child who's likely to throw fits.

Meanwhile Wade, who's chill from the get-go, you can actually give him a 'good' outcome which positively impacts his behavior. It's rewarding to ensure that character's well-being.

Also something about tribal tattoos, a moustache and caving Axel's skull in, but that's a fight for another day.
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I 100 percent agree it's why I said in my other post Stan being the opposite of perry would give him a way stronger player base since he would improve on his own we wouldn't have to nudge him to improve.
 
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