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overall ORS seems much more mild to me than GGGB. more complex as well. but when it comes to kink and perversion it seems milder..so yeah Seymour isn't Satan reincarnated... and that's all good in my book.
btw guys, how do you get to have Holly with a tattoo on her ass cheek ?
i am found of physical proof or depravity
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btw guys, how do you get to have Holly with a tattoo on her ass cheek ?
i am found of physical proof or depravity
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Basically, we no longer have a main villain as such. One became a simp, and the other characters haven't done much.
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I see your points and to a degree I agree with you, but there are differences in the various paths. Also, you misallocate Lena´s early money problems. Lena was poor and had money problems due to sending home cash well before Seymour became aware of her. And on paths where Lena impresses Seymour and the two have a good working relationship, he shows some generosity. He fills the hole her neverdowell brother made in her funds, he covers some rather expensive medical treatments insurance does not and he saves the cafe.
Sure, most of this also aids some of his long term goals, but at least one of these acts nobody expected Seymour to do it in the first place. He could have reached his goals even without doing it. Adding in that on these paths Seymour never did harrass Lena makes him a lot less as... right from the start.
He comes across as a capricious, even spleeny, philosophical businessman (and maybe Lena´s dad), who certainly looks out for his advantage, but can´t that be said about most businessmen? On these paths Seymour is most definitely not a Bond villain, and a big corruptor is very much debatable.
Seymour is busy cementing his position in Baluart and for all corruption he might be responsible for, as far as book publishing goes he is gold compared to this insufferable, arrogant, no talent prick of an alternate publisher option for Ian! While Seymour certainly knows how to skim cream off for himself, he also has an eye for talent. The same cannot be said about that other guy.
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Still, when we say that a person does something good, we imply a certain degree of altruism in this action, or at least a motive and calculation in sympathy and further good relations (which is naive IRL, but we are now discussing a character). When Seymour "helps" someone, he always does so out of calculation. When he "helps" Lena, he does so out of lust, perhaps, as the latest chapters show, out of a desire to leave a legacy, as well as a desire to control a beautiful potential starlett. Moreover, from a conversation with Arthur and Seymour's own admission, we know that Lena is far from the first model with whom he has signed an exclusive contract. And he ended things with them because they couldn't "stir his emotions." That is, most likely, they rejected him. This is hinted at by the fact that if Lena mostly refuses to satisfy his fantasies, he will hint at the consequences of breaking the contract. Why would he terminate the contract if, according to him, his goal is to foster talent?
When he "helps" Ian, he does so at least with the intention of benefiting from a best-selling author he has moulded with his own hands, who is completely under his and his publishing house's control. But I don't think that's the end of his motive, especially considering that he always points out Ian's connection to Lena. Let's see what his offer will be after winning the competition, especially when he rigs it and makes Ian the winner in advance in case of cooperation with Lena. Oh, and he's ready to take control of Lena when he knows she and Ian are dating.
We don't know the details of his agreement with Axel, but I don't think it ends with mentoring in photography, especially considering that Axel would very much like Lena to sign a contract with Seymour.
In addition, he profits from gentrification and, in the event of a confrontation with Lena, tries to squeeze Van Dyke out of business. It is also unclear why he wants to meet with Emma. Moreover, if he is her father, as you say, he is also pursuing an incestuous relationship with his daughter. And he wants to install a mayor who will allow him to have complete, unlimited power in the city.
I don't like Victor's temper, but he is honest and wants to give real talent a chance to be heard. Unlike Seymour, who promotes commercial fluff for teenagers, pushing real talent aside. For example, with high Wit, Ian says that Saturn Comes Back Around has little chance of being published by Hierofant because it will be too complex for most of the audience. Victor, on the other hand, would have no problem publishing such a book in his publishing house. And yes, everything in the game indicates that Victor is a talented writer, contrary to your claims, and has a keen eye for talent in others.
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Some of your points are good, others are dependend on the way we play ORS, for our playthroughs are parallel universes, so to speak. So some things simply do not happen in my/your playthroughs, others do. True altruism is rare and Seymour is just one of many calculating his good deeds. He should do them without all this calculations, but there are a lot of people like him.
I do not say Seymour is a top guy, he has several deep flaws, but he is also not the villain so many players awaited.
As for the former exclusive contractives, the Lena versions who know the modelling business and are not really surprised by what Artur and Seymour tell them. That is part of the business and can happen and on the paths where Lena and Seymour have a good relationship it does not play a big role at all.
The fate of the Van Dyke cafe is very much dependend on our path. In two paths of my playthroughs (maybe more I do not have all playthroughs at the same point) Seymour saves the cafe. The cafe hinges much on how we play our heroes lives.
The book distribution seems to be also dependend on our playthrough and earlier events. I have Ian at max Wits (playing him nerdy, but not hidebound and he trains combat sports) when he has to decide about the books. When it comes to "Saturn", he acknowledges that it is not a masses product, but good and he puts it into Hierophants Special Interest line. That line is for books who will not sell millions of copies, but are attractive to the genre and fringe readers and might even surprise in the long run.
That is pretty much like real life publishers, where the mass stuff pays for the special interest books.
Victor is an arrogant ass much like Seymour can be and in the way he is introduced it seems more like he got lucky once. I give you that he like Seymour has an eye for talent.
"Bro", I am not a cuck, I have no trauma, and for the time being there is absolutely no scene in this game involving sharing Lena and Lena cucking Ian, it is just talks and no action, and if you have seen any Lena sharing scenes or cuck scenes, I suggest you stop drugs.
Stopping drugs might help you realize that I am not into vanilla scenes at all, Ian sharing Lena is actually the one thing I have been looking for, and that is never happening. Time for your pills.
EK gave you an orgasm Lately ? I have not had a litteral orgasm with that game since Lena woke Jeremy up. Since then no scene has been worth it.
Seymour acts too vanilla in Rome to be Weinstein. Arthur is not talented and smart enough to be Polanski.
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Only Agnes, Gillian and Axel left to stir the drama!Basically, we no longer have a main villain as such. One became a simp, and the other characters haven't done much.
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Watch Lola become a twist villain in the end
edit: also don't forget Ivy. Stirring shit is her MO. She's like the Joker of Baluart
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Yeah, I forgot about her. She will cause more drama than Agnes and Gillian for sure. Idk why I even mentioned them.Watch Lola become a twist villain in the end
edit: also don't forget Ivy. Stirring shit is her MO. She's like the Joker of Baluart
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Seymour has become a missed chance. He could have and imho should have become the main villian since he had both contact with Lena and Ian. Would have been a nice twist if he ended up corrupting Ian if Ian and Lena were in a relationship. But as you said he became way to vanilla like the entire story and most scenes.
Arthur was a fan favorite in GGGB because of how twisted he was but I think we should get the godfather memes ready.
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Hey guys I am new here. Is the update out yet?
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Hey guys I am new here. Is the update out yet?
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Arthur may have been a favourite but he wasn't really a strong villain either. I think with both him and Seymour it comes down to the design of the game's branching narrative, these games try to do both corruption and anti-corruption themes and when you mix that with role-playing elements it becomes hard to write a villain that's actually forceful while still respecting player agency to not feel forced to play certain routes.
In both games you can elect to ignore the villain almost entirely. They still pop up here and there, but Ash doesn't have to entertain Arthur's feigned sorrow nor does Lena have to indulge Seymour's schemes. They can both gain tangible rewards from exploring these characters, but if you care little for the monetary rewards the game presents on these routes, you have little reason to suffer through their content if you dislike the themes.
So either you want that money without cheating, in which case you'd be the kind of player this content was actually intended to challenge, or you enjoy the corruption elements and willfully steer your FMC down this path. In neither case are they strong villains really because one choice actually favors them while the other is a personal compromise.
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Technically also Mike, if all those predictions of his association with Gillian turn out to be accurate. Or if Lena keeps "collaborating" with him while still in relationship with Ian. Or just as a source of some fighting with Ivy, idk.
Also, we're supposed to get a new characters at Billy's party. It would be pretty late for them to be introduced as longer term additions to the cast, but they still can generate some drama, i guess.