VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[sztrb]

God I hope it turns out better than the beach event.

Emma's scenes were definitely the best part of the beach segment (especially since she's dtf even if you're sleeping with Lena) and the set up to finally bed Louise was worth it.

But overall, not my most favourite update, although beats Lena fucking the old man or micropeen Stan.

 

[ffive]

Emma's scenes were definitely the best part of the beach segment

I've got hard time picking between Ian punishing Lena and slut Holly getting to tap freshly single Ian.

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

I feel like it works as the emotional climax of this narrative block

'Emotional' climax? It's a goddamn Diddy party

This weekend I’ll need to take a couple of days off to head home and celebrate my birthday

the final stretch is proving tough. I’ll use these two days to catch my breath

Lol

 

[varpep]

TBF Eva had a good work flow up until a few months ago. She was releasing update every 3 to 4 months. Even though the updates were short, at least they were something. To give credit where it's due, Eva has been remarkably consistent since the second part of the beach update. Sure it's frustrating waiting for an update that doesn't even contain content you're looking forward to. But these things were always going to take time considering the scope of the game.

I sense the problem came when she posed the question whether she should release part of the update or delay it to a later date so ppl have more content. I'm gonna be honest, this coming update doesn't interest me that much but as long as the story progresses in some way I have no qualms. I've also heard the same sentiment shared amongst commenters on this forum (of not being interested in the upcoming update). So I believe she should have released the earlier part of the update a few months ago cause a lot of ppl were not willing to wait so long for an update they weren't even interested in. But alas the patreons voted to move the release back and honestly they seem happy waiting.

 

[dolfe67]

TBF Eva had a good work flow up until a few months ago. She was releasing update every 3 to 4 months. Even though the updates were short, at least they were something. To give credit where it's due, Eva has been remarkably consistent since the second part of the beach update. Sure it's frustrating waiting for an update that doesn't even contain content you're looking forward to. But these things were always going to take time considering the scope of the game.

I sense the problem came when she posed the question whether she should release part of the update or delay it to a later date so ppl have more content. I'm gonna be honest, this coming update doesn't interest me that much but as long as the story progresses in some way I have no qualms. I've also heard the same sentiment shared amongst commenters on this forum (of not being interested in the upcoming update). So I believe she should have released the earlier part of the update a few months ago cause a lot of ppl were not willing to wait for an update they weren't even interested in. But alas the patreons voted to move the release back and honestly they seem happy waiting.

I don't think shorter updates would have solve your issue, as this part of the story had to be made. It would have made 2 or 3 updates instead of 1 bigger that doesn't interest you

 

[varpep]

I don't think shorter updates would have solve your issue, as this part of the story had to be made. It would have made 2 or 3 updates instead of 1 bigger that doesn't interest you

Yeah but at least we'd have something to play and new plot developments (maybe...dunno). Instead of waiting for long and still having to wait for the next update.

 

[BlandChili]

Pointless to discuss anyway since Eva already offered the option of early release and the patreons told her to keep working on it.

 

[Blurpee69]

This update is taking longer because she polled her Patrons and asked if they wanted her to take longer and release most of this Billy adventure as one whole release or break it up into parts. They choose the former. We're pushing into two update territory now with the wait which tracks with what we were going to get anyway, it'll just all be playable at once instead of having a weird ending point.

I'm not really seeing the need for concern here.

 

[Turret]

Pointless to discuss anyway since Eva already offered the option of early release and the patreons told her to keep working on it.

This update is taking longer because she polled her Patrons and asked if they wanted her to take longer and release most of this Billy adventure as one whole release or break it up into parts. They choose the former. We're pushing into two update territory now with the wait which tracks with what we were going to get anyway, it'll just all be playable at once instead of having a weird ending point.

I'm not really seeing the need for concern here.

IMHO this is one of the biggest flaws EK as a developer has. Making polls with the patrons and always listening to them instead taking it as an indicator and deciding herself. The patrons are in no matter what and are often not representive of the whole player base. Also these polls end up on the lowest common position most times, which is rarely good for development.

Take the yearlong gap between new content a couple versions ago due to the patrons voted for waiting. This was certainly not good for the game development nor EK´s reputation. She should tell the players that the polls are for info-gathering what the players think, not a decisionmaker.

 

[Blurpee69]

IMHO this is one of the biggest flaws EK as a developer has. Making polls with the patrons and always listening to them instead taking it as an indicator and deciding herself. The patrons are in no matter what and are often not representive of the whole player base. Also these polls end up on the lowest common position most times, which is rarely good for development.

Take the yearlong gap between new content a couple versions ago due to the patrons voted for waiting. This was certainly not good for the game development nor EK´s reputation. She should tell the players that the polls are for info-gathering what the players think, not a decisionmaker.

They're not representative of her whole player base, but they are representative of the people that pays her bills. So it's probably a good idea to at least pay them lip service, no?

 

[Ray_D]

I learned that Eva attended more birthdays/weddings/funerals in the past 4 years, than I have in my entire life.
jk... also: "update when?!?!?!?"

It's something I call the “AVN developer syndrome.” This syndrome is simple, and it can be bad or good in Eva's case. It consists of the following: when someone becomes an AVN developer, suddenly everything that had never happened to them in their life suddenly starts happening to them one after another.

 

[El_Magnifico]

It's something I call the “AVN developer syndrome.” This syndrome is simple, and it can be bad or good in Eva's case. It consists of the following: when someone becomes an AVN developer, suddenly everything that had never happened to them in their life suddenly starts happening to them one after another.

I swear. Dépression, anxiety, haters, burn out, harassers, Dying computer, death threats, accident, sight issues, death of a relative, recuring cold, German taxation...

It's like the most dangerous job ever

 

[DatBoit]

Is Eva ever going to release a status update where she actually has good news? I swear, in every single one of them, there is always something to complain about.

But it just goes back again to the fact that she has bitten off way more than she can chew with ORS. Everything about how she approached this project is a disaster. It was never a good idea to have two protagonists, and it most certainly was not a good idea to have two protagonists, while also having a workflow that relies heavily on sudden inspiration and ad hoc ideas, rather than a defined plotline with a clear beginning, middle and end.

ORS is simply beyond salvation, and not in the sense of the game becoming worse (because it isn't), but because there is no way of altering the approach without either giving it a very abrupt and unsatisfactory ending, or changing some very core aspect of it (such as removing one MC), both of which will massively disappoint people. This means that, ultimately, we will be stuck on this rocky road of setbacks and delays, until the interest finally dies out or Eva is forced to wrap up the project as it becomes ever more unmanageable.

 

[ffive]

Is Eva ever going to release a status update where she actually has good news? I swear, in every single one of them, there is always something to complain about.

It largely depends on how you choose to look at it.

The main part of the chapter is almost ready, but I still need to add a couple of variations to a certain scene, and honestly, there’s another one I’d really like to include.

"The next update is almost ready but i want to add extra scene to it" can be seen as positive. Instead of focusing on the fact that it's not completely ready yet. It's very much a glass half-full/half-empty thing.

 

[Gicoo]

If chapter 14 deals with Billy's trip, its not unfeasible for the game to start wrapping up in chapter 15 and 16, with a final chapter 17 having the final choices and epilogue.

Most plotlines are set and racing towards their conclusion. While it could be tempting to have this game around even longer, as in Ian and Lena fool around longer with even more characters, its clear how little they do once they got over their depression and got a foot in their potential careers and got a partner.

 

[Ray_D]

If chapter 14 deals with Billy's trip, its not unfeasible for the game to start wrapping up in chapter 15 and 16, with a final chapter 17 having the final choices and epilogue.

Most plotlines are set and racing towards their conclusion. While it could be tempting to have this game around even longer, as in Ian and Lena fool around longer with even more characters, its clear how little they do once they got over their depression and got a foot in their potential careers and got a partner.

Yes, we're almost at the end. All that's left is to finish the MMA tournament, the book competition, and the final fight against Axel.

 

[mommysboiii]

Regulated industry is no better, do we have to talk about all the scam "micro" transactions (or giga transaction with $500 skins), lootboxes and co? AAA games unpolished or unfinished at release?

I would argue that regulated big industrys /big corpo are even worse

I am gonna pray for gta 6 man

Big corpo+ investors+payment systems+reaching a broader audiance to make unlimited growth +other big corps sony/ms + rating boards

And than its a crime game about nudity ,sex ,strippers ,drugs ,violance ,gangs ....

Yeah good luck ....

I pray that gta 6 will be different and we get good lucy jiggle physics but man that game will be toned down hardtalking about thr most immersive game ever created if we are super unlucky our man jason wont even see the boobs of his own gf

 

[Yellowie The Goldie]

Besides Seymour and Axel, who would you guys say are antagonists in this game? Ivy and Jeremy? Or just Ivy?

 

[DaLuke2]

Uh, yeah. No relationship path has advanced except for all those which did have advance. A brilliant critique that gets right to the heart of the matter.

I feel conflicted as I see you as one of the most knowledgable players of this game, yet on this I believe you are wrong.

Yes I get "right to the heart of the matter", which is that all the scenes anyone has fantasized towards the beach event did not happen. Instead we had:

- More Emma degrading, "oh yes oh you're such a slut lick my ass blah-blah".
- More Lena non-cuck, "oh yes you want to see me fuck someone else blah-blah".
- More Ian/Lena not swinging, "an MFM would be really hot blah blah".
- More Holly corruption, "oh yes I have become such a slut blah blah".

All utter rubbish.

You are a scientist of this game, yet like all scientists you don't see when things go wrong, in this instance that you are the expert of a game that is completely screwed and you don't see it. You're our own personal Faulci.

 

[DaLuke2]

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Jeremy Clarkson or anyone from The Sun disagreeing with me is a badge of honour actually.

As a matter of fact, calling on Clarkson against me, proves me right.

Only ignorant morons use Clarkson's memes.