VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Xupuzulla]

She just checked at Discord if the fanboys were angry or not. And then she saw that it was pretty harmless, so she can delay the update again until next month...

She saw all the"YES MY SPANISH QUEEN TAKE YOUR TIME!"comments and dipped back to vacation mode.

 

[robs1234]

In fact, this is entirely expected and logical, as releasing an update at the end of the month, just days before their subscription expires, isn't profitable for devs. It's more profitable to wait until the beginning of the next month to secure more subscription renewals. This is a rough example, but it's realistic

didnt they changed that and the sub expire 30 days exactly after you subscribed ?

 

[Arata20]

didnt they changed that and the sub expire 30 days exactly after you subscribed ?

yeah i noticed a long time ago that subscriptions expire not at the beginning of the month, but 30 days after the subscription date. However, ive had cases where ive subscribed in the middle of the month, and the subscription has already expired at the beginning of the next. I don't know what this is all about. maybe depend on devs

 

[robs1234]

yeah i noticed a long time ago that subscriptions expire not at the beginning of the month, but 30 days after the subscription date. However, ive had cases where ive subscribed in the middle of the month, and the subscription has already expired at the beginning of the next. I don't know what this is all about. maybe depend on devs

o yeah, you are right
"You’ll pay $7.87 today, and then monthly on the 1st. Your next charge will be on 1 October"

RIP, i see you next month guys...

 

[WestSide23]

didnt they changed that and the sub expire 30 days exactly after you subscribed ?

Isn't it up to the creator ? I think hers is fixed on the 1st of each month.

PS: Yup just checked on her billing form page. 1st of each month.

In fact, this is entirely expected and logical, as releasing an update at the end of the month, just days before their subscription expires, isn't profitable for devs. It's more profitable to wait until the beginning of the next month to secure more subscription renewals. This is a rough example, but it's realistic

I think some people would be pissed and she'd for sure lose a few subscribers this time. I don't know if it's worth it for her, but I definitely thought about it as well. Hell, I knew it'd never come out at the end of August when September was just around the corner, but stretching it to October would be wild. Especially after saying she was playtesting at the mid-month mark.

 

[JoJoPool]

She saw all the"YES MY SPANISH QUEEN TAKE YOUR TIME!"comments and dipped back to vacation mode.

funny how times change, when i said the same thing way back everyone lost their shit and went full white knight simp mode

 

[Turret]

She saw all the"YES MY SPANISH QUEEN TAKE YOUR TIME!"comments and dipped back to vacation mode.

There might be more truth in this than we think! EK was once a very reliable dev, but today? Hardly, postponement is following postponement.
For comparison, another game I am very invested in does definitely update in the coming days. We already know it will have over 2000 renders, several dozen animations, a novella length dialog and has several specific paths (less than ORS, but still quite distinct ones) and despite this very sizeable update the devs are humble and even warn(!) that the update might be short on some very specific sub routes. And this "short" is very much in the eyes of the beholder, since even the shortest updated route will be longer in playtime than the whole update length of many other AVNs here.

See the difference? One dev brings out a sizeable update in his usual time interval range, EK sadly went into the long line of Devs who are unreliable. Many postponements, very mixed sized updates.

 

[Quackman74]

There might be more truth in this than we think! EK was once a very reliable dev, but today? Hardly, postponement is following postponement.
For comparison, another game I am very invested in does definitely update in the coming days. We already know it will have over 2000 renders, several dozen animations, a novella length dialog and has several specific paths (less than ORS, but still quite distinct ones) and despite this very sizeable update the devs are humble and even warn(!) that the update might be short on some very specific sub routes. And this "short" is very much in the eyes of the beholder, since even the shortest updated route will be longer in playtime than the whole update length of many other AVNs here.

See the difference? One dev brings out a sizeable update in his usual time interval range, EK sadly went into the long line of Devs who are unreliable. Many postponements, very mixed sized updates.

TD & GIL are S tier devs tbf

 

[JoJoPool]

There might be more truth in this than we think! EK was once a very reliable dev, but today? Hardly, postponement is following postponement.
For comparison, another game I am very invested in does definitely update in the coming days. We already know it will have over 2000 renders, several dozen animations, a novella length dialog and has several specific paths (less than ORS, but still quite distinct ones) and despite this very sizeable update the devs are humble and even warn(!) that the update might be short on some very specific sub routes. And this "short" is very much in the eyes of the beholder, since even the shortest updated route will be longer in playtime than the whole update length of many other AVNs here.

See the difference? One dev brings out a sizeable update in his usual time interval range, EK sadly went into the long line of Devs who are unreliable. Many postponements, very mixed sized updates.

I think most devs fall into this trap eventually, once they establish a solid fan base they start taking their supporters for granted and they start making less and less effort hence why a lot of AVNs start off strong but then go downhill, they know patrons are an easy bunch to please, most of them won't complain and won't criticize no matter what happens, the only ones who do that are us the "free users" (me included) and as far as the dev is concerned we can all go fuck ourselves.
Just ask SerHawkes he'll tell you how much Eva cares about his prayers for IanxIvy.

 

[SerHawkes]

I think most devs fall into this trap eventually, once they establish a solid fan base they start taking their supporters for granted and they start making less and less effort hence why a lot of AVNs start off strong but then go downhill, they know patrons are an easy bunch to please, most of them won't complain and won't criticize no matter what happens, the only ones who do that are us the "free users" (me included) and as far as the dev is concerned we can all go fuck ourselves.
Just ask SerHawkes he'll tell you how much Eva cares about his prayers for IanxIvy.

Not wrong. Considering I did pay her for a time only to stop paying once the first set of reworks came out of no where.

The biggest issue with some devs is that they either surround themselves with certain yesmen and think that whatever harebrained idea is good for the game, turns out to not be a good idea. (Cough Cough DPC, Ocean, Braindrop, EK, etc.) Another issue is that you have devs that "want" to try and make everyone happy but instead listen to certain elements of the paybase and ignore characters and pairings that don't see the light of day other than a one off scene.

EK in this case has listened far too much from her NTR/BBC/Cuckold players and rewarding them over and over again with more scenes and stuff to boot, while neglecting characters and pairing such as Ian and Ivy, and other pairings, all for the sake of that fetishists money she gets when she appeases the vocal brain dead masses. As a result, the story drops in quality, characters get shafted in terms of screen time, and pairings have to wait another year or more before getting there turn, if that. IanxIvy is now going on 6 years without anything, inspite of EK "promising" and "proclaiming" it's going to happen or that the pairing was on the back burner all because she couldn't think of a way to impliment them. I can deadass come up with a manner for them to hit things off in a span of 5-10 minutes, and EK is going on 6 years? Yeah, at this point EK is literally trying to save this shitshow of writing and management because she got overallly ambitious with this project and didn't actually plan shit out and stick to her true vision of the story and listened far too much for the fetishists.

 

[ExtremeLips]

Not wrong. Considering I did pay her for a time only to stop paying once the first set of reworks came out of no where.

The biggest issue with some devs is that they either surround themselves with certain yesmen and think that whatever harebrained idea is good for the game, turns out to not be a good idea. (Cough Cough DPC, Ocean, Braindrop, EK, etc.) Another issue is that you have devs that "want" to try and make everyone happy but instead listen to certain elements of the paybase and ignore characters and pairings that don't see the light of day other than a one off scene.

EK in this case has listened far too much from her NTR/BBC/Cuckold players and rewarding them over and over again with more scenes and stuff to boot, while neglecting characters and pairing such as Ian and Ivy, and other pairings, all for the sake of that fetishists money she gets when she appeases the vocal brain dead masses. As a result, the story drops in quality, characters get shafted in terms of screen time, and pairings have to wait another year or more before getting there turn, if that. IanxIvy is now going on 6 years without anything, inspite of EK "promising" and "proclaiming" it's going to happen or that the pairing was on the back burner all because she couldn't think of a way to impliment them. I can deadass come up with a manner for them to hit things off in a span of 5-10 minutes, and EK is going on 6 years? Yeah, at this point EK is literally trying to save this shitshow of writing and management because she got overallly ambitious with this project and didn't actually plan shit out and stick to her true vision of the story and listened far too much for the fetishists.

Ian's friend Jeremy is trying to get with Ivy at the start of the game. It makes sense that it would take time for them to get together. That would be terrible writing if there was no progression to making Ian hook up with Ivy. We all know it's coming, why does it have to be rushed?

 

[SerHawkes]

Ian's friend Jeremy is trying to get with Ivy at the start of the game. It makes sense that it would take time for them to get together. That would be terrible writing if there was no progression to making Ian hook up with Ivy. We all know it's coming, why does it have to be rushed?

By around Chapter 6 or so Ian and Ivy could have started things bare minimum. Ian goes to a club, blow off some steam, ends up hanging out with Ivy and chatting her up, maybe hit things off to lead into things.

Took a minute to come up with that. We are now in Chapter 14-15 my guy/girl/toaster oven. It's literally not that hard to come up with a plausible means for IanxIvy to start off somewhere.

God do I miss the facepalm emoji.

 

[RiscoFrisco]

All things aside where the fuck is the update

 

[chinesewarrior]

next update will be a long one or short one ?

 

[Erectosaurus]

That would be terrible writing if there was no progression to making Ian hook up with Ivy

It's not like that stopped Eva before.

 

[ExtremeLips]

By around Chapter 6 or so Ian and Ivy could have started things bare minimum. Ian goes to a club, blow off some steam, ends up hanging out with Ivy and chatting her up, maybe hit things off to lead into things.

Took a minute to come up with that. We are now in Chapter 14-15 my guy/girl/toaster oven. It's literally not that hard to come up with a plausible means for IanxIvy to start off somewhere.

God do I miss the facepalm emoji.

Who said because it's not hard to come up with means it should be added in right away? There are flirting options added in (texting at the beach house) and they have the training session at the gym

 

[SerHawkes]

It's not like that stopped Eva before.

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Not to mention Lena hooking up with Marcel, Jack, etc... on whims...

 

[SerHawkes]

Who said because it's not hard to come up with means it should be added in right away? There are flirting options added in (texting at the beach house) and they have the training session at the gym

Yeah. In chapter 9 and 10. In Year fucking 4. But by all means, fail to miss the mark of rational thinking.

 

[ExtremeLips]

Yeah. In chapter 9 and 10. In Year fucking 4. But by all means, fail to miss the mark of rational thinking.

Maybe it's because you only come on here to complain. Eva is doing it to spite you

 

[SerHawkes]

Maybe it's because you only come on here to complain. Eva is doing it to spite you

Oh, so I should just shut up and kiss ass to a Dev who constantly has writers block and is skilled issued with her own storytelling and management skills? That shutting up will make her "unspite me" Please... Thats the most brain dead take to have. Everyone here has an opinion and voice. Praising and Critisizing Devs is a mainstay. Devs should be critisized for their projects to understand what things they should improve on and get better at. Not surrounded by kiss ass morons who want to create a safe space for thinned skinned pansy ass individuals who can't take any sort of feedback that challenges their own notion.

Good job, good effort. 0/10 joke. Would not tell again Felicia.