Lolicon Kami

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That's not true. The game checks ian_lena_couple in ch14, not ian_lena_love. And he is only willing to fuck Lena in that case, if v12_jeremy_crisis and v12_jeremy_crisis != "solved". Check the code.
Otherwise if ian_lena_mmf_guy = "jeremy", she can only grind on his cock between her legs.
Not sure about the code, but my Ian is on great terms with Jeremy and Lena has also fucked Jeremy
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Yoheijin

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Do you know in what chapter that happens? Where Ian can become angry and stuff. Thanks for the answer by the way.
this is just my assumtion ; Date Alison and block Jeremy from Alison, and never friendly to him and accuse him if alison's boyfriend came.
 

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Lol the lengths ppl will go to to ntr Ian. What's the point of cheating on Ian with Jeremy if they are no longer friends :WeSmart:
 
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Lol the lengths ppl will go to to ntr Ian. What's the point of cheating on Ian with Jeremy if they are no longer friends :WeSmart:
Cheating on someone with their best friend is just a very hot scenario.

Unfortunately for them, ORS is simply too realistic and consistent with their characters in this instance. Lena isn't a total cunt and knows she can't fuck Ians friend and then go in a serious relationship with Ian at the same time, and even Jeremy fights his boner and only gives in if Lena ensures him she isn't serious about Ian and that she isn't Ian's girlfriend.


Weirdly enough, Ian can pull this off with Cindy (betraying his friend Wade) and sort of Louise (betraying his girlfriend Lena, though he also won't do it if their relationship is healthy), while Lena merely fucks Mike, someone whose girlfriend she doesn't know. She can betray Ian with multiple people, but they are never his close friends.
 

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Lol the lengths ppl will go to to ntr Ian. What's the point of cheating on Ian with Jeremy if they are no longer friends :WeSmart:
For the funny dialog! How many high fives and you are the man's are you willing to witness before it's boring, it's refreshing to see Ian/Jeremy at eath others throats a little, same with Lena/Ivy.
 
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Not sure about the code, but my Ian is on great terms with Jeremy and Lena has also fucked Jeremy
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There are Ian/Lena relationship paths where this is possible, but very few, if not only 1. This is also possible if Ian/Lena are not a couple at all. The others where Ian/Lena are a couple and Lena can sleep with Jeremy at Billie's require Jeremy to not like Ian anymore.
 
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Saerwen

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Lol the lengths ppl will go to to ntr Ian. What's the point of cheating on Ian with Jeremy if they are no longer friends :WeSmart:
That's nothing. Some players love their gf/wives, sisters, moms, aunts, grandmas cheat with their own dad, brother, other men... Some games and threads are pure comedy for example titles of NTR'd by my dad, etc. Kids these days huh? :KEK:
 

DaLuke2

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Threesomes are different, because the partner is involved. This is extra motivation to only pull it of with people you are familiar with. With normal hook-ups, there is always a risk, but it would only affect you, not your partner, so its less of an issue.
I don't deny you point is interesting.

Yet, real life is - slightly - more on my side: you do realize that the average couple willing to spice things up by inviting a third partner do, in majority, make a point of picking a total stranger that they will never come across ever again, right ?

Don't get me wrong, I am familiar with the threesome with the BFF or the best buddy, I even had two threesomes with sisters.

But this is NOT the majority of occurences, especially with MFMs. When you suggest one to your girlfriend and that she is open to it, most of the time she INSISTS that the third partner must be a total stranger that you will never meet again ever ever.
 

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I agree that having Mike included only based on sex but not flirt variable is a bit odd. But at the same time, that was only an early discussion, and it seems that in this update the game is rectifying it, and does take into account whether Lena continued the early flirt in her interactions with Mike in this chapter:
Python:
            i_p "How's everything on your end? Are you having a good time over there?"
//...
            if ian_lena_mmf and ian_cuck < 2:
                l_p "It's been... interesting, that's about all I dare to say! {image=emoji_ups.webp}"
                if v14_anthony_massage or v14_mike_flirt or v14_jeremy_flirt:
//...
                    if ian_lena_mmf == 2:
                        l_p "Hey, that thing we talked about... the threesome. Still think it's hot?"
//...
                    else:
                        l_p "Hey, that thing we talked about... the threesome. You still up for going through with it?"
//...
                    else:
                        i_p "Why are you asking? Do you have a new candidate?"
                        l_p "Could be... {image=emoji_shy.webp}"
                        if v14_jeremy_flirt:
                            l_p "How about Jeremy?"
//...
                        if v14_mike_flirt:
                            if ian_lena_mmf_guy != "jeremy":
                                $ ian_lena_mmf_guy = "mike"
                            l_p "Do you remember Mike?"
//...
                        if v14_anthony_massage:
                            if ian_lena_mmf_guy != "mike" and ian_lena_mmf_guy != "jeremy":
                                $ ian_lena_mmf_guy = "anthony"
                            if v14_jeremy_flirt or v14_mike_flirt:
                                l_p "I've also met this guy, Anthony... I've got a feeling we could try something with him."
                            else:
                                l_p "I've met this guy, Anthony... I've got a feeling we could try something with him."
//...
This variable doesn't hinge on having sex before, just flirting is enough to enable the interaction which activates this flag. As you can see from the snippet, the same is applied to Jeremy (as well as Anthony) who can also become a candidate now.
Yes, yes, my point exactly, that's why I specified "before this update".

I did insist that this update rectified the matter in a suprisingly agreeable direction.

Hey, for once we agree 100% on a topic ! I'll drink to that tonight.
 
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I have a feeling Jeremy might be the one exception. The variable used for most characters is Lena_'character'_dating, and this is usually set to true after a hookup of some sort. It is a little inconsistent, Seymour sets to true if you agree to work with him, even if you quit before anything sexual happens, Axel sets to true without sex, just enough interaction. Jeremy won't get this set to true unless Lena wakes him and blows or fucks him. Ivy's bday party bj is a sore spot for Ian later, and depending on choices as Ian, Jeremy will refuse, be coerced by Lena or be fine with it, but the dating variable is still false. If Lena has the BBC fetish from watching Jeremy/Louise, fantasizing about it a number of times, fantasing about Jeremy enough, he will be a choice for the 3some without Dating True, but NOT on ALL paths.

I haven't verified this to be 100% true, just what I can dig out of my memory, which isn't always right.
That is super specific. Thank you for the insight, really.

My perception, after this update, is that, for Jeremy to be an option, you must have spied on him, expressed a BBC fetish, and have enough lust to tease him. I have tested it and I confirm you NO LONGER need to have sucked him at Ivy's birthday. Which is great as far as I am concerned, as I can now save a playthrough where you get the threesome with Louise and Ian and STILL have Jeremy as an MFM option.

I wish EK changed the constraints and gave us the option to offer threesomes to Ian with Louise, Emma and Ivy without cheating on him with them, but EK is stupidly annoying like that.
 

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Yet, real life is - slightly - more on my side
Good for you, we are discussing the games logic. Ian and Lena fucking strangers or guys they haven't interacted with is a much weaker narrative set-up. It makes much more sense that they involve guys Lena already had intimate encounters with to expand on that further.

That's nothing. Some players love their gf/wives, sisters, moms, aunts, grandmas cheat with their own dad, brother, other men... Some games and threads are pure comedy for example titles of NTR'd by my dad, etc. Kids these days huh?
No need to kinkshame the nastier NTR premises. It's a very old, popular and established genre. GGGB had the same with Arthur drugging his daughter and cucking his son or Ashley getting gangraped by gangsters. Granted, playing ORS with its more grounded and "normal" setting and then marching in the thread and complaining why it doesn't have the typical extreme NTR is a fools errand.

Why deny someone some personal growth!!?? Handing out answers like lolipops...

The first time I played this game at this point I was confused, then I was impressed and laughed.
The answers were in a detailed guide, do you expect the guide to hide information when players are stuck in a scene that isn't as easy to navigate out to as the others?

You may find it impressive, but almost regularly new users frequent this thread and ask how to deal with this scene. Even more frustratingly: When you give them a hint to play around a bit, some like the latest user refuse to listen and claim that's impossible, hence the more detailed guide comes in handy.
 
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JKING92

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I've got a question for the pros: While using URM and changing a variable to my liking, does the said variable get to be saved in the next update, or do I still need to monitor the changes?

And a follow up one: Lets say I don't wanna keep using the mod on the same save file that DID used it on - the changes still gonna be intact?
 

stuffygames

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The answers were in a detailed guide, do you expect the guide to hide information when players are stuck in a scene that isn't as easy to navigate out to as the others?

You may find it impressive, but almost regularly new users frequent this thread and ask how to deal with this scene. Even more frustratingly: When you give them a hint to play around a bit, some like the latest user refuse to listen and claim that's impossible, hence the more detailed guide comes in handy.
Calm down, it was in jest, I'll add more emojiis next time. :):D:LOL:

I don't see any evidence that user was using a detailed guide, and I wasn't attacking the guide, not sure where you are going with that.

When I first played it, I 'almost' went looking for the answer, I don't have a problem with that. If you read the dialog it becomes clear. I thought it was clever use of the renpy error screens.

I have a friend that plays games while watching a youturd guide, which defeats the purpose of playing a game for me. But as I think was mentioned before, people play games differently :giggle:.
 
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