mehGusta

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We can say a lot of - bad - things about Eva Kiss, but when a developer manages to make players go to such deep reasonings as above and analyze the facial expressions of her characters, you know she has something other developers do not have.
i unironically think that. you can dislike ian's part. you can dislike lena's part. think it's bad that there are 2 protagonists. dislike certain kinks this game handles (i'm like that too, i totally dislike BBC). prefer or like other games. etc. etc.
but this is hands down the most well crafted porn game ever!
Gillian is a blackhole and Ian is a lion :cool:
then seymour is a camel :LOL:
 

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I feel like I'm repeating myself tbh. I understand Gillian's character is apologetic but considering their past, Eva's decision to have Gillian rock a perma-neutral expression when talking to Simp Ian vs. anxious-to-relieved expression panel with Chad Ian is there to signal a different dynamic, regardless of how often Gillian said she was sorry.

This:
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doesn't describe the same dynamic as this:
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Err. I'm guessing you wanted to post some different set of pictures or more of them, because these two are quite literally "corporate wants you" meme with the same Gillian? Or if there is some actual difference between their expressions, it's so minuscule you'd be reading way too much into it.

edit: but i don't really disagree with what you say, that the dynamics between Gillian and Ian who didn't move on are portrayed different than their interactions in scenario where Ian did move on. However, i disagree with your interpretation of what that difference supposedly means.

That aside, i want to object to something else,. You keep talking about "simp Ian" and "chad Ian" but this is at best a misrepresentation of possible dynamics between Ian and Gillian. There is no guaranteed correlation between Ian who has moved on having his chad variable high, and the one who didn't having it low. You can have max-chad Ian still hung up on Gillian, and you can have "nice Ian" who made his peace. The game understands this, and it doesn't make such presumptions during interactions with Gillian -- the variable isn't checked nor influences things in any manner.
 
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xxxtentaci0n

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I think you might be able to, complicated though. Probably keeping relationship casual when Ian/Lena are the park earlier in the game, then keep hooking up. Make all possible attempts with both Ian and Lena to build relationship with Holly. Axel always makes Lena doubt everything about relationships, like Gillian does for Ian, so probably avoid doing anything that keeps those alive. On Ian's side, stay away from Cindy, maybe even Cherry, but I think most others are alright. Lena's side, no Jeremy, no Mike, no Mark, no getting freaky at the club when she's bartending. Probably dump Seymour or never start working for him.

So not really, not with most of the cast.
Im gonna try it bro! I hate reading the game guide while playing tbh feels like a puzzle lol
But thank you bro!
 

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xxxtentaci0n Okay I have some good news and some bad news for you. I was able to get the throuple on a fuck fest path between Ian and Lena. Problem is it was buggy as hell :LOL:. As Ian I was able to sleep with Lena, Cherry, Cindy, Emma, Alison, Louise and Minerva before forming the throuple. As Lena I was able to sleep with Ian, Jeremy, Jack, Robert, Marcel(kinda), Mark and Mike before forming the throuple. The main things you have too look out for are:Ian and Lena have to have good relationship with Holly. Lena has to get over Axel and Ian has to get over Gillian. Keep Holly away from Ivy and fucking other men. In chapter 12 Ian and Lena have to choose to be together. FIN.
PilotLara I found a lot of bugs on this throuple path. Think you could have a look? First Holly doesn't confess to Ian about her kissing Lena. After Ian, Holly and Lena get together the game treats it as if only Ian and Lena got together. In chapter 13 the whole relationship regresses to a fwb one. Other minor little bugs too. Here's a save from the end of chapter 11.
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im gonna try it bro! u the goat!
 
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Err. I'm guessing you wanted to post some different set of pictures or more of them, because these two are quite literally "corporate wants you" meme with the same Gillian? Or if there is some actual difference between their expressions, it's so minuscule you'd be reading way too much into it.
Coming from the dude who's literally picking up code snippets with fgillian = "sad" to prove his point, you have to be fucking with me and I really don't have the patience for that.
However, i disagree with your interpretation of what that difference supposedly means.
We can agree to disagree.
That aside, i want to object to something else,. You keep talking about "simp Ian" and "chad Ian" but this is at best a misrepresentation of possible dynamics between Ian and Gillian.
Semantics again and again and again and again... It's really fucking annoying to talk to someone who keeps discussing the meaning of words instead of what's at hand. Simp/clingy people are often people who accepts their cheating exes straight up and in open arms. Chad behavior is often described as self-sufficient and confident, someone who doesn't get caught up in the past and moves on. It's considerably easier to discuss simpy decisions as a "Simp Ian" and more conventionally assertive and detached decisions as "Chad Ian". You call that "friendly Ian" I call that "simp Ian", same shit.
 
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Well Eva sure knows how to make facial expressions on her characters unlike some Devs where a woman instead of showing pleasure have a face of being constipated.
Fuck facial expressions. Please just talk about Jeremy's big ass dick or something so I don't have to read anymore about how Ian jacking off to Gillian getting spitroasted in his dreams is just really fucking friendly.
 

Yellowie The Goldie

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Fuck facial expressions. Please just talk about Jeremy's big ass dick or something so I don't have to read anymore about how Ian jacking off to Gillian getting spitroasted in his dreams is just really fucking friendly.
Finally, the BBC aficionado comes out. Just as I thought.

Dw bro, we won't hold it against you. This is a safe space :)
 

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Coming from the dude who's literally picking up code snippets with fgillian = "sad" to prove his point, you have to be fucking with me and I really don't have the patience for that.
Sue me, but while i see clear difference between words "neutral" and "sad", i don't see any real difference between the expressions in your screenshots. If that's what the neutral and sad expression actually look like in the game, then it's on EK for making them similar to the point where the visual difference is easy to overlook or dismiss.

Semantics again and again and again and again... It's really fucking annoying to talk to someone who keeps discussing the meaning of words instead of what's at hand.
I quite disagree, because what you mean when you write your points and what the other person thinks you mean when you make your points can be very different, and you can easily end up talking past each other. Like, case in point, you apparently think that when you say "chad Ian" people will read that as "self-sufficient and confident" when to me it just reads as Axel-like douchebag (since that's how "chad" Ian acts in the game which also aligns with RL "chad behavior") and i had to do a double take to figure out what you're on about.

It's considerably easier to discuss simpy decisions as a "Simp Ian" and more conventionally assertive and detached decisions as "Chad Ian". You call that "friendly Ian" I call that "simp Ian", same shit.
It's mostly the alternative being supposedly "chad" that rubs me the wrong way, because it reads like lionizing folks who in reality are just as pathetic as the "simps", but in the opposite way. If that's how you want to see them, fine, but don't get upset if not everyone subscribes to this personal take of yours or find it confusing.

Anyway, it seems we have an agreement (of sorts) on the main point which was whether Gillian acts different in reaction to how the player chooses for their Ian to act towards her, so i guess we can put this to rest now?
 
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Finally, the BBC aficionado comes out. Just as I thought.

Dw bro, we won't hold it against you. This is a safe space :)
Jeremy truly has an amazing dick, Eva really outdid herself. Hopefully he gets to fuck Alison/Lena/Cindy/Emma/Minerva/Mercedes/Nat/Cherry/Holly/Ivy/Zarina all at once.

Hell, slap Perry, Ian, Axel and Stan in there too for good measure
 

undertheboot

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Does anyone know what choices lock Lena out of a relationship with Ian? Is it something specific? Or is it just hooking up with others generally?
 

ffive

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More accurately, if she decides to blow him twice and then go for a threesome with Louise.
To be exact, this is determined by flag v8_jeremy_sex which is set when Lena decides to Wake Jeremy up in the morning. It doesn't need to include the threesome.
Python:
    "So Jeremy was sleeping in Louise's bed..."
    "I couldn't help but think about our texting this past Thursday. It was cut short just when it was getting good..."
    "Images of that night at Ivy's place came to mind. Memories of what it felt like to have that enormous cock in my hands, stroking it..."
    "I started feeling goosebumps. Just thinking about it had me rushing with excitement and anticipation."
    menu:
        "{image=icon_lust.webp}Wake Jeremy up":
            $ v8_jeremy_sex = True
//...
        menu:
            "{image=icon_ring.webp}I want a relationship with you" if (ian_alison_love == False and ian_lena_love) or (ian_alison_love == False and ian_lena > 8):
//...
                if lena_ian_love and v8_jeremy_sex == False:
//...
                # 2 - DECLINE
                else:
//...
                    l "Oh."
                    l "About that..."
                    if lena_jeremy_sex:
                        l "I... Right now I don't think it's a good moment..."
                        l "There are things that... I mean, I don't feel ready for that kind of commitment."
 

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Hey guys, is it possible to get the scene between Emma and Lena and the dinner with Seymour? Why is it that every time I give Emma a compliment she doesn't like it and so I lose the scene between the two of them? Is there any way for the two of them to have sex without missing the dinner with Seymour?
 
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