whamma

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I respond under the control of our Master ORSologist, but it seems unrelated to me.

Until this very last update, Lena can NOT cheat on Ian with Jeremy. The very last scene of the very last update is the very first time you can. And for this, after having played according to our scientist's guidelines, I think I really know the minimal conditions now:

- You NEED to be on the cuck path. Having already cheated on Ian is not enough.

- Ian needs to be on the war path with Jeremy, ergo: Lena must have cheated on Ian at least once, because the only way you are on the war path is because Jeremy tries to warn Ian about Lena cheating, and Ian gets super upset, twice.

- Ivy's party blowjob is no longer relevant. Actually, you now can have refused to blow him, and still suggest him for the threesome, not earlier but on this update.

- If Lena and Jeremy messed around at the club, that implies Lena has woken him up, meaning she has declined a relationship with Ian, thus it is not cheating.

Even less relevant because:

- Lena can have woken Jeremy up, have the threesome with him and Louise, fooled around with him at the club, and yet, if she decides at her parents' house she wants to commit to Ian, then she stops seeing Jeremy, can still suggest him for the threesome, and yet she will at best fool around with him on the last scene without going all the way, and only if Ian has allowed it.

- One last interesting point, worth insisting upon: if faithful Lena chooses to persuade alpha Ian to fool around without him, even if you are not at all on the cuck path, you get the cuck emoji for the first time. This implies that EK is going to give a new "chance" to your faithful Lena and alpha Ian to get into the cuck path. I did not see that one coming.
I've genuinely have gotten lost by now due to the many branching pathways of this game that I've forgotten which dialogue would lead me to which path because I've just been skipping everything just to get to the scenes lol. Thanks for the response nonetheless. I'll get to reading the story once the game actually comes out whenever that is.
 
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As I said sometime before, BG 3 of adult games for sure
That's because EK is initially a real artist and not a horny random game developer. She's like a Ferrari designer creating a new Lada, or Dostoievsky writing a Marvel comic book.
 

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That's because EK is initially a real artist and not a horny random game developer. She's like a Ferrari designer creating a new Lada, or Dostoievsky writing a Marvel comic book.
No matter how talented she is and how intricately she made the game, that doesn't detract from the fact that she's also a horny game developer lol. The things she's putting in the game are things she's into in real life. Two things can be true at once. It's still a porn game, and there are a lot of sexually depraved stuff and just general horniness that you won't even find in other games. GGGB was literally insane for how much depraved shit she put in there and how far she went with that game. If you think ORS is depraved, it's nothing to GGGB. She's holding back.
 

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No matter how talented she is and how intricately she made the game, that doesn't detract from the fact that she's also a horny game developer lol. The things she's putting in the game are things she's into in real life. Two things can be true at once. It's still a porn game, and there are a lot of sexually depraved stuff and just general horniness that you won't even find in other games. GGGB was literally insane for how much depraved shit she put in there and how far she went with that game. If you think ORS is depraved, it's nothing to GGGB. She's holding back.
Yep. I think it's because she wanted to do something different. GGGB was a more 'comical' and typical erotic "fall from grace" type of story. Whereas ORS is more of a (semi?) realistic fall to depravity that is at least somewhat believable, especially with the more realistic triggers that mostly come from either Seymour or Ivy.
 
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I've genuinely have gotten lost by now due to the many branching pathways of this game that I've forgotten which dialogue would lead me to which path because I've just been skipping everything just to get to the scenes lol. Thanks for the response nonetheless. I'll get to reading the story once the game actually comes out whenever that is.
Same here. Its quite tricky if you put this into a flowchart.
 

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Hoo boy, I know a lot of people are gonna like that QoS tattoo, but I think it would have been better as a variable-determinant result. Some of those other options like a heart and a music symbol would have been great.
Oh, it wasnt variable determinant?

I thought if Lena was fucking around with Jeremy and Ivy finds out OR if you are at a low friendship level with Ivy she'd do this.
 

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In chapter 11, if Ian has not gotten over Gillian you'll have a chance to get cuck points if he watches Gillian get fucked.
Note, this is false. The only way for Ian to get cuck points are interactions with Lena. Dreams of Gillian (and how you opt to act towards them) don't affect this stat.

The ways to increase/affect ian_cuck variable are:

Chapter 10
Python:
                "She was whispering with that sexy voice so close to my ear, her fingers tightening around my tool..."
                menu:
//...
                    "{image=icon_sad.webp}{i}One{/i} of the best?":
                        $ renpy.block_rollback()
                        $ ian_cuck = True
//...
Chapter 11 has most potential changes happening in the foot job scene. These can either advance the cuck path, or limit/reset it.
Python:
    menu:
        "{image=icon_lust.webp}Ride his face" if lena_lust > 7 or v10_lena_sex < 2 or lena_cheating or (lena_louise_sex and lena_reject_louise == False):
//...
                $ v11_lena_dom = True
                if ian_cuck:
                    $ ian_cuck = 1
//...
            if ian_lena_sex == False:
//...
                $ ian_cuck = 2
//...
        "Her feet danced across my sensitive skin, her heels brushing against my balls."
//...
        menu:
            "{image=icon_lust.webp}Where did you learn to do this?" if ian_cuck or ian_lust > 6:
//...
                menu v11feetcuck:
                    "{image=icon_sad.webp}Tell me more...":
                        if ian_cuck < 2:
                            $ ian_cuck += 1
//...
                            # ian_cuck == 2
                            else:
                                i "Damn, that's crazy... You've done very nasty things..."
                                l "Maybe... Does it turn you on, hearing about them? The things I did with other guys..."
                                menu:
//...
                                    "{image=icon_athletics.webp}Not really" if ian_chad > 2 or ian_athletics > 5:
                                        $ ian_cuck = 1
//...
                    "{image=icon_athletics.webp}That's enough information" if (ian_chad > 2 and ian_lena_sex) or (ian_athletics > 5 and ian_lena_sex) or ian_cuck == 0:
                        $ ian_cuck = 0
//...
            "You're so good at this":
//...
                if ian_cuck == 2:
//...
                else:
                    $ ian_cuck = False
//...
            "{image=icon_athletics.webp}I don't like this" if (ian_chad > 2 and ian_lena_sex) or (ian_athletics > 5 and ian_lena_sex):
                $ v11_lena_dom = False
                $ ian_cuck = False
//...
    l "I'm dying to get out of these shoes... Can I use your bathroom for a second?"
    i "Of course. Make yourself comfortable."
//...
    if ian_cuck > 1:
        l "Alright, I'm done..."
//...
        menu:
            "{image=icon_sad.webp}Tease Ian":
                $ ian_cuck = 3
Chapter 12:
Python:
            if ian_lena_crisis:
//...
                l "My attitude? What do you mean?"
                i "You know. The way you've been so affectionate and touchy..."
                l "That's what you saw? I was just being a bit silly..."
                l "I don't know, I didn't think I was being inappropriate or anything."
                menu:
                    "It's nothing":
                        $ ian_cuck = 1
//...
                    "I don't like it":
                        $ ian_cuck = 0
//...
                # CUCK ROUTE
                    if ian_cuck > 1:
                        "I obeyed Lena, but it wasn't her hands that she used to touch my cock."
//...
                        i "No, I... I want to feel your mouth too, please...!"
                        l "And what do I get in return?"
                        menu:
                            "Whatever you want":
//...
                                if ian_cuck == 3:
//...
                                else:
                                    $ ian_cuck = 3
//...
                            "I don't know...":
                                $ ian_cuck = 2
 

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Does cheating on Ian early on when she gave him head and when they messed around at the club make this situation possible still or no?
Honestly, not sure. If you have a playthrough like that it's probably best if you simply test it yourself..? If Lena and Jeremy had some sort of sex earlier (the dating variable is active) the game has a separate branch for that.
 
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Also is there a way to have Holly cheat on an Ian she's dating? Like fucking Mark?
I don't think so, no. Because in that event, her self esteem hasn't been lowered so much where Ivy will be able to take advantage of. In fact, her self esteem in this scenario would go up, since Ian chose her and that he's interested in her. Making it so that it's impossible to corrupt her now, especially since she was tied to Ian.
 

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What is the trigger for Mike & Jeremy threesome? I only manage to do it on Love Mike path.
You can't actually get that on advanced love path with Mike since Lena will automatically opt for ending it with Mike alone. The actual path goes like
Python:
            if lena_mike_sex or v10_wc_bj == "mike" or lena_lust > 8 or ian_lena_mmf:
                menu:
                    "{image=icon_lust.webp}Tease Mike":
//...
                        if lena_jeremy_dating or (v14_jeremy_flirt and lena_pure == False) or (v14_jeremy_flirt and ian_lena_mmf):
//...
                        # jeremy dating
                            if lena_jeremy_dating:
//...
                                if lena_mike_love == 2:
//...
                                    jump v14mikesexnight
                                else:
                                    if lena_lust > 9:
                                        menu:
                                            "{image=icon_lust_gold.webp}Have them both":
//...
                                    else:
                                        menu:
                                            "{image=icon_will.webp}Have them both" if lena_will > 0:
Effectively Lena needs to have had sex with Jeremy, and either has fucked Mike as well, or have high enough Lust to tease him to start the whole chain.
 
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Jeremy is bicurious for sure, yeah ? The bro shit was already a bit much, but I just went through the Lena MMF threesome and at some point he just starts gushing about how Mike's dick is disappearing in Lena's mouth and he gets told to shut up lmao.
 
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Jeremy is bicurious for sure, yeah ? The bro shit was already a bit much, but I just went through the Lena MMF threesome and at some point he just starts gushing about how Mike's dick is disappearing in Lena's mouth and he gets told to shut up lmao.
Small penis humiliation, since Jeremy is never at risk of bottoming out with his BBC.

I have now explained the basics of the BBC fetish for you.
 

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You can't actually get that on advanced love path with Mike since Lena will automatically opt for ending it with Mike alone. The actual path goes like
Python:
            if lena_mike_sex or v10_wc_bj == "mike" or lena_lust > 8 or ian_lena_mmf:
                menu:
                    "{image=icon_lust.webp}Tease Mike":
//...
                        if lena_jeremy_dating or (v14_jeremy_flirt and lena_pure == False) or (v14_jeremy_flirt and ian_lena_mmf):
//...
                        # jeremy dating
                            if lena_jeremy_dating:
//...
                                if lena_mike_love == 2:
//...
                                    jump v14mikesexnight
                                else:
                                    if lena_lust > 9:
                                        menu:
                                            "{image=icon_lust_gold.webp}Have them both":
//...
                                    else:
                                        menu:
                                            "{image=icon_will.webp}Have them both" if lena_will > 0:
Effectively Lena needs to have had sex with Jeremy, and either has fucked Mike as well, or have high enough Lust to tease him to start the whole chain.
I think it might be the 10 lust
 

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Small penis humiliation, since Jeremy is never at risk of bottoming out with his BBC.

I have now explained the basics of the BBC fetish for you.
As Ian spanking Axel truther, I don't mind bi-curious Jeremy. If Eva ever did the gay dlc like she planned, Jeremy would for sure be on top of the list with Axel (and maybe fixing cindy's bf that I already forget the name of)
 
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