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Emma: not really interested in traditional relationship. Will happily "drink coffee" with anyone around.
Cindy: cheater
Allison: boring nag
Holly: boring bookworm
Minerva: another cheater
oh, also
Cherry: yet another cheater
Louise: will turn into a psycho if you as much as look at her

That doubt is very much warranted. :whistle:
Holly was uncalled for, but otherwise, summed up perfectly.
 
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I read the latest review and the guy said MMC is more interesting and FMC is much worse. I fundamentally disagree with this. Ian spends the entire game screwing everything that moves, writing books and going to the gym. There are no cool plot twists. You don't care about him because his parents support him. Lena, on the other hand, supports her parents on her own. She has problems with rent, works two or three jobs, and has to make sacrifices to survive, dating assholes like Robert or even worse like Seymour.
 
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maybe alison is the only option other than lena, but i will never choose her in my route, like you can't choose robert.
Alison is perpetual trash. Everything about that character is pure distilled trash.

If you play 'risky' with her Ian gets the "cum inside but not for real its just a kink bro" version which is trash.
If you play lovey-dovey safe she makes Ian wear rubber non-stop and it constantly frustrates him.
The 'voyeur'/cuck path is obviously hyper-fetishy so fuck that.

There's one damn path where Alison is ok to fool with and that's casual.

Sofia would never ask Ian to wear a condom. She'd ask for crack money sure, but at least Ian gets to go raw.
 
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Kinda surprised no one has posted the link for 14.1.3 yet. Was looking forward to having a fully functional gallery to play around with.
 
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You don't care about him because his parents support him.
You're just jealous Lord Jordan Peterson isn't your father.

She has problems with rent
It could be worse, she could live with Perry. Lucky her. Instead, she has Stan who will pay her rent for her and do her photoshoots for free.

and has to make sacrifices to survive
Ian got sexually assaulted by his older boss and had to make sacrifices for the sake of his career. Imagine your boss shows you his old flabby ballsack out of the blue and asks you to suck them bad boys if you want to keep your job. How'd you react?

dating assholes
Ian has the option between his friend's gf who's a cheater, his ex who's also a cheater, a bitch physically unable to stfu and who's tryna babytrap him at every corner. If he refuses her, she makes his best friend send him dick pics and harasses him with phone calls while getting spitroasted.
Who's else? Emma? She's a homeless commie who lives off of liquid soap she steals from the pub.
 

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Seems you haven't played the game yet. Neither Allison nor Holly are boring unless you only have a single interaction with them. And Cherry isn't even a cheater. If anything she's a homewrecker (which tbf is still really bad)
Nothing wrong with homewreckers.

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Also, having had some time to think over this latest release. Its literally that horse drawing meme:

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You're just jealous Lord Jordan Peterson isn't your father.


It could be worse, she could live with Perry. Lucky her. Instead, she has Stan who will pay her rent for her and do her photoshoots for free.


Ian got sexually assaulted by his older boss and had to make sacrifices for the sake of his career. Imagine your boss shows you his old flabby ballsack out of the blue and asks you to suck them bad boys if you want to keep your job. How'd you react?


Ian has the option between his friend's gf who's a cheater, his ex who's also a cheater, a bitch physically unable to stfu and who's tryna babytrap him at every corner. If he refuses her, she makes his best friend send him dick pics and harasses him with phone calls while getting spitroasted.
Who's else? Emma? She's a homeless commie who lives off of liquid soap she steals from the pub.
Never has more wrong opinions been uttered in the last sentence on this forum.
 
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Opinions? Sorry but these are facts.

When you find Emma spreading her legs in the toilet of the fortress, she's actually just working and selling that booty to the lowest bidder.

I'm not even gonna bother talking bout Ivy and her wide ass peripheral vision, you know that thing is closer to a reptile than an actual human. Any of you who are into 'her' are prolly into zoo shit.

Louise's spirit animal is a damn mosquito.

As for Holly, she's as memorable as a table cloth.
 

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Like Lena with Seymour, she just goes full vapid gold digger if she gives into him, the extreme.
This is simply not true. Lena can be a shrewd businesswoman in this pairing, fulfilling the contract and reaping the benefits, but without any illusions about Seymour's nature and without ever letting him touch her. She's walking a tight rope and she knows it, but it's interesting to see where it goes. I don't think there's anything vapid about her actions if you opt for this variant.
 

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This is simply not true. Lena can be a shrewd businesswoman in this pairing, fulfilling the contract and reaping the benefits, but without any illusions about Seymour's nature and without ever letting him touch her. She's walking a tight rope and she knows it, but it's interesting to see where it goes. I don't think there's anything vapid about her actions if you opt for this variant.
Wits Lena for sure, and to a certain degree Slutty Lena can feed off Seymour's self disillusions of modern medici, make a buck and exit before really needing to gave up anything that they are not willing to, but posh Lena w/ low wits and sub Lena are easy prey. Which are (high wits and high lust) the more interesting ways a playthrough can go for the character
 

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This is simply not true. Lena can be a shrewd businesswoman in this pairing, fulfilling the contract and reaping the benefits, but without any illusions about Seymour's nature and without ever letting him touch her. She's walking a tight rope and she knows it, but it's interesting to see where it goes. I don't think there's anything vapid about her actions if you opt for this variant.
It's true for how I phrased it, "IF" you let her give in. Sure if you don't you can keep him at bay, but she can also be a super slut, in love with Ian and if you let her give in, she swaps to vapid gold digging bitch, the extreme.

I'm not talking about the way the player would play to avoid it, just that the change is extreme, like the cuck route and Holly, both IF you let it happen.
 

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I read the latest review and the guy said MMC is more interesting and FMC is much worse. I fundamentally disagree with this. Ian spends the entire game screwing everything that moves, writing books and going to the gym. There are no cool plot twists. You don't care about him because his parents support him. Lena, on the other hand, supports her parents on her own. She has problems with rent, works two or three jobs, and has to make sacrifices to survive, dating assholes like Robert or even worse like Seymour.
There is definitely a double standard at work here. Male players who like harem games find nothing interesting when they play Lena, but are fine if Ian hits everything over and over, including Lena. Romance players can choose who they like and complain about everyone else. Slut lovers don't like Ian's side too much, but still find things to complain about.

It's a pretty deep game on all ends, and it can cater to a number of fetishes, styles, kinks, and this creates controversy over opinions, which are always just opinions. Not gonna change someone's mind if they are locked in a bubble of whatever they like.
 

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Opinions? Sorry but these are facts.

When you find Emma spreading her legs in the toilet of the fortress, she's actually just working and selling that booty to the lowest bidder.

I'm not even gonna bother talking bout Ivy and her wide ass peripheral vision, you know that thing is closer to a reptile than an actual human. Any of you who are into 'her' are prolly into zoo shit.

Louise's spirit animal is a damn mosquito.

As for Holly, she's as memorable as a table cloth.
Sorry, didn't mean to kinkshame you. I'm assuming your kink is being a dumbass.
 
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It's true for how I phrased it, "IF" you let her give in. Sure if you don't you can keep him at bay, but she can also be a super slut, in love with Ian and if you let her give in, she swaps to vapid gold digging bitch, the extreme.
The thing is "giving in" can mean two things here -- giving in and working with Seymour instead of rejecting his offer, or giving in to his sexual advances. You didn't really specify which of those you meant. I'll presume you meant the latter, while i was pointing out there's variations to the former.

Also as far as i can tell even in the case of giving in sexually if in close relationship isn't really automagically turning Lena into some "vapid gold digger"; at the very least she monologues about cheating on Ian and potentially Holly, and tries to figure out how she should proceed.
 

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The thing is "giving in" can mean two things here -- giving in and working with Seymour instead of rejecting his offer, or giving in to his sexual advances. You didn't really specify which of those you meant.

Also as far as i can tell even in the case of giving in sexually if in close relationship isn't really automagically turning Lena into some "vapid gold digger"; at the very least she monologues about cheating on Ian and potentially Holly, and tries to figure out how she should proceed.
I think it was clear, giving in to working with him isn't very extreme, especially early on. Of course I was referring to the sex. Don't leave out the monologue about how Seymour can give her everything she needs, when up to that point she was wary in most of her thoughts, so an extreme change.

My point is it is a game of extremes, romance, wealth, sex, cucking, cheating, there is not a lot of middle ground or hybrid pathing, if you choose everything for a certain path, it all goes to an extreme. This isn't a bad thing necessarily. With everything that is going on, it would be 100 chapters to have less extreme paths along with the current stuff.
 
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