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ffive

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This is getting very interesting.

I have caught you, not just offguard, but showing bad faith. Boooh.

Your "literally no" is about sth I DO mention which happens FAR later in the game.

And then you get back to my main point, just undermining it: "Now, you are right that Lena does talk about song-writing as her real interest very early in the game. "

Cooooomon.

You make it a detail, while this is my main point.

The main point being, EK losing her shit and becoming inconsistent.

Let's just say that, in spite of your admirable technical precision, you are FAR more tolerant on artistic inconsistency than I am.

Still look up to u thu.
It's probably my bad for arranging my reply in this way (perhaps i should've started with acknowledging that what you said about Lena's behavior was true and make the point about later additions being apparent counter to it?) but it wasn't in bad faith. It basically boils down to what you say, though -- i think it's just easier for me to accept the idea ORS can be inconsistent in some places as a result of ongoing development (EK tends to revise even earlier chapters, mostly with bug fixes, months/years after they're released) so if such contradiction happens in the game it's also easier for me to revise interpretation of earlier stuff that gets contradicted with something developed later.
 
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varpep

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Dose anyone knows what just happen to the Lena Louise path?
Since Louise moved to her parent's house, she has had way less interaction with Lena. Even by way of phone call. The "relationship" between her and Lena was never taken seriously by Lena anyways. And also with Louise's attention shifting to Ian, I suspect it might not get much better on the Lena path though...The three of them might still have another threesome...Yeah scratch that last part. It's not gonna happen again. Louise is coo coo for Coco Pops and wants to be Ian's girlfriend even going as far as telling Ian to break up with Lena if they are together :KEK: Girl doesn't understand the meaning of side piece lol.
 
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stuffygames

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Again and again and again, my problem here is not moral, it is artistic.
Calm down my friend, I didn't disagree with anything you said or tell you that your preference was wrong. Read and comprehend before claiming you are being attacked or misunderstood.

You can have your favorite, but if you tell others that what they like is crap and the only decent artistry is in the path you like, that is provacative and antagonistic.

I like discussing this stuff with you and everyone here, I learn new things all the time.
 
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stuffygames

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Is there any oblivious Ian path? Like, any branch where Jeremy doesn't tell Ian that Lena likes to sleep around.
Avoid anyone that has anything that has to do with Club Lena works at for one night. It limits who Lena can hookup with, but there is still Robert, Axel, Seymour, Louise, Holly.. etc.
Can someone tell me which route to take to see this picture? I've tried the route many times but still haven't seen this picture
The WIP Gallery entries are not coded in the game yet, it means they will be available in a later release. The scene is in the game, you just need full slut Lena that is cheating on Ian or cucking him, or not with him at all, all the drugs, a decent relationship with Mike and Jeremy. If Ian/Lena are in a relationship Ian needs to get pissed at Jeremy when he tells you Lena gets around, which requires Ian/Jeremy relationship less than perfect.
 

Saerwen

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Eva is trying to write Lena to be Ashley no. 2 it's ridiculous. Some women are born as ladies and some are just naturally good at sex and not matter how much you are trying to be good or bad, you can't be if you don't have it in you. It's like calling a starlet a primadonna. You either have a talent or don't. So Lena can't be Ashley no matter how hard she is trying.
 
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GibboBtw

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Do you guys know/think we're going to be able to have Ian and Lena be able to move out and live together soon? As I seem to recall that's a potential thing you can already set up on the IanXAllison path if I'm not mistaken?

So it'll surely be something we're going to be getting on this path soon as well right?
 

dolfe67

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Do you guys know/think we're going to be able to have Ian and Lena be able to move out and live together soon? As I seem to recall that's a potential thing you can already set up on the IanXAllison path if I'm not mistaken?

So it'll surely be something we're going to be getting on this path soon as well right?
We can assume it will happen yes, like in GGGB.
 

Blurpee69

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Do you guys know/think we're going to be able to have Ian and Lena be able to move out and live together soon? As I seem to recall that's a potential thing you can already set up on the IanXAllison path if I'm not mistaken?

So it'll surely be something we're going to be getting on this path soon as well right?
The end of last chapter, with Ian, had a lot of setup for Ian finally moving out on his own; potentially with most of his love interests. Ian made a pretty definitive statement with Allison on her love route. Holly, Bad Jess, and Emma have all made comments about wanting to change their living situations so they are in play to move in with him. Wade has moved out of Cindy's apartment, so it's possible for Ian to move in with her. Similarly with Cherry and her apartment. There is potentially trouble with Lena's living situation with the rent increase and the way Stan dropped the news on Lena and Louise. That could be an excuse for her to leave and move in with Ian. Of all of Ian's current LIs Minerva is the one that is in the most difficult position to live with as she's still married.

So that's a long winded way of saying it's probably going to happen with one of his love interests, we're just not really sure when. I very much doubt this chapter, possibly next chapter, but I think chapter 16 will be the most likely time for the move to happen. If it's going to happen before the end of the game, that is.
 

XVGuil

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does fucking stan require you to date him (not dating Ian)? I know the trigger is actually having relationship with stan above a certain point, but is there a way to do that (because the decision to not date stan put your relationship under that)?
 

ffive

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Avoid as in pertaining to chapter 11, or avoid them in general throughout the game?
Mostly in the sense of not invoking any sex scenes which take place at the club, although in case of Axel this is more generic, and triggers if Lena didn't get over him (her "axel desire" flag is active) since this causes her to automatically let Axel fuck her when she meets him at the club.
 
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Blurpee69

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An additional thought I just had about Ian and Lena moving. To me, this will signal the closing moments of the story. Perhaps we'll get another chapter or two after the fact along with an epilogue to tie up any loose ends, but the story will basically be concluded at the point that their living situations change. The titular red string will be untangled and our two protagonists will no longer be entwined with the rest of the cast. At least as they are now.
 

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Mostly in the sense of not invoking any sex scenes which take place at the club, although in case of Axel this is more generic, and triggers if Lena didn't get over him (her "axel desire" flag is active) since this causes her to automatically let Axel fuck her when she meets him at the club.
Noted, thanks.
 

stuffygames

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does fucking stan require you to date him (not dating Ian)?
Hmm, ffive can probably answer this better, but I think Lena needs to stay casual with Ian the first time they talk about a relationship, then you get the option to cultivate a relationship with Stan. Later if Lena is cheating she can go further.
Avoid as in pertaining to chapter 11, or avoid them in general throughout the game?
In my experience avoiding throughout the game, no Jeremy, Mike, Mark they all talk to each other, but there may be some coding that I am not aware of.

The club night as a bartender she has to be a good girl for sure though. The Axel encounter at the club may trigger Jeremy to talk to Ian also, which might mean keeping the relationship with Axel low so Lena can use the angry option when talking to him at the club. Not giving in during the BJ dream, and "snapping out of it" when she thinks about him will keep the "desire" flag false. Lena can still fuck him, just don't go all in.

EK is good at setting traps that screw you out of things later, can't have everything you want in a single playthrough. :LOL:
 

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Avoid anyone that has anything that has to do with Club Lena works at for one night. It limits who Lena can hookup with, but there is still Robert, Axel, Seymour, Louise, Holly.. etc.

The WIP Gallery entries are not coded in the game yet, it means they will be available in a later release. The scene is in the game, you just need full slut Lena that is cheating on Ian or cucking him, or not with him at all, all the drugs, a decent relationship with Mike and Jeremy. If Ian/Lena are in a relationship Ian needs to get pissed at Jeremy when he tells you Lena gets around, which requires Ian/Jeremy relationship less than perfect.
Are you sure you can get the Lena Jeremy Mike threesome if Lena is in a relationship with Ian? How so? In my playthrough, Lena either spends the night with Jeremy or Mike. I don't get the option to choose both of them.
 
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