BlandChili

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oh i get you and i would not say no to your scenarios as well we all win in the end if that comes to pass
Indeed, for that matter I agree that any threesomes involving the two of them would be bound to be hot as hell too. I happen to not really be into either of the options they have in common, but a threesome with Lena, Cindy and any third guy or gal would almost have to be hot just because of the two of them being involved~
 

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I need help, how do I access Minerva's route? I've tried looking at the guide but I can't get in. I must be doing something wrong.

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I managed to get into Minerva's route with this combination:
Don't lower your affection points with her except for the first mandatory one > Change the book to review with Holly > Meet with Holly > ask her for writing advice>Don't give your book to Saymor > Go to the office spending one Will point
 
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I need help, how do I access Minerva's route? I've tried looking at the guide but I can't get in. I must be doing something wrong.
The way I do it is. Have Ian either swap review jobs with Holly, or have him write his 'own' review. And then also have him show up to give his work to Seymour in person if I'm not mistaken. Those will eventually lead to Ian making Minerva look like a prick, and then she'll call him into her office later down the line to try and fire him. Then you need either 5 wits/6 charisma, and then he'll be able to flip it on her. At which point she just kind of loses her mind, admits that he drives her fucking insane, and then fully comes onto him and demands that he fuck her.

It's kind of awesome ngl...:ROFLMAO:

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I managed to get into Minerva's route with this combination:
Don't lower your affection points with her except for the first mandatory one > Change the book to review with Holly > Meet with Holly > ask her for writing advice>Don't give your book to Saymor > Go to the office spending one Will point
You don't need to spend a will point to get on the route. Just give your book to Seymour.
 

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We are at a point where guys get more dick than Ivy.
Don't worry, Eva will make up for it by making Ivy the main attraction at the orgy with the investors.:Kappa::Kappa::Kappa:
Danny literally stole her man. Ivy fans will never recover from this lol (yes I am one of them).
Ivy is so bad at sex that Billy is curious enough to explore with Danny.:KEK:
 

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when does the 14.1.4 full is released?
One day in an unspecified month.
So the next update is the 3rd day of Billy's shoot, with the party finale, right?
I hope so, I'm already bored with the hoemaxing.
Come on Eva give me more my daddy Ian, fuck Lena.
Indeed.
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I hope we do get Ian invited to the party by Lena. The thing is, I think EK will make Ian come to the party to start the threesome scene with Lena/Ivy. I don't think there will be any other legitimate opportunities, unless we get the same thing we had with Louise, Lena inviting her, that is.
Two things could happen. The threesome between Ian, Lena, and Ivy, or some drama if Lena decided to cheat on Ian.
 
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One day in an unspecified month.

I hope so, I'm already bored with the hoemaxing.

Indeed.
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Two things could happen. The threesome between Ian, Lena, and Ivy, or some drama if Lena decided to cheat on Ian.
Tbh, at this stage of the game, if you have a decent Ian, he's gonna fuck the shit out of anyone who tries to roll over him.
 
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DaLuke2

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Romance her and don't mess up the relationship with her and Ian, then she won't fuck Axel. There are two differing versions where you either trust her or set boundaries in which case she's more daring when working with him if you do not. If Wade breaks up with Cindy she doesn't fuck Axel either.
In the game's routing it recognizes three different paths to Cindy/Axel with various conditions I believe, though it's been a while since I looked into it, wherein all she seems to fuck him. Though it has of course not actually been confirmed.

So three where she fucks him and three where she don't. Half.

Given her popularity I understand why. Cindy's got some interesting elements to her route that makes her an engaging prospect I think. She's hot, somewhat of a forbidden fruit, and has some moral questions to her route. There's a bit to enjoy for most I guess.
I admit I had completely forgotten the path where Wade breaks up with Cindy himself. Probably because I don't pay much attention to this plot in the game as I don't find it interesting, so when I replay the game, at times I get Wade breaking up with Cindy, and others Cindy hooking up with Axel, and I have absolutely no idea on the choices I have made which lead to one outcome or the other (tbh...I don't really care).

However, I really have a hard time identifying the "interesting elements" making her "engaging":

- She's hot ok, that's why I mentioned her as a potential FMF candidate with my loyal Ian/Lena.
- Ok I get the "forbidden fruit" aspect, it is interesting....for exactly one second and a half.
Then what ?
Let's look at her from the start of the game:
- She's a rich girl working for her papa
- She's the kind of people who grabs stuff for free from her poorer friends, but rarely offers anything to them (beer etc.)
- She's not a good sport, super competitive even on the most silly games, and a VERY bad loser
- She does not know anything - and is no that interested - in arts, culture, politics, in anything
- She admires the bimbo influencers on instagram and tik tok pretty candidly
- She cheats on her boyfriend in almost any instance
- Before that, she is stupid enough to publish her naked pics before even having told her boyfriend about the shooting
- She doesn't cheat on her new boyfriend only if he has discplined her and put her on a leash

=> frankly, to me Cindy is just a blonde Kim Kardashian wannabe.
 

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I admit I had completely forgotten the path where Wade breaks up with Cindy himself. Probably because I don't pay much attention to this plot in the game as I don't find it interesting, so when I replay the game, at times I get Wade breaking up with Cindy, and others Cindy hooking up with Axel, and I have absolutely no idea on the choices I have made which lead to one outcome or the other (tbh...I don't really care).

However, I really have a hard time identifying the "interesting elements" making her "engaging":

- She's hot ok, that's why I mentioned her as a potential FMF candidate with my loyal Ian/Lena.
- Ok I get the "forbidden fruit" aspect, it is interesting....for exactly one second and a half.
Then what ?
Let's look at her from the start of the game:
- She's a rich girl working for her papa
- She's the kind of people who grabs stuff for free from her poorer friends, but rarely offers anything to them (beer etc.)
- She's not a good sport, super competitive even on the most silly games, and a VERY bad loser
- She does not know anything - and is no that interested - in arts, culture, politics, in anything
- She admires the bimbo influencers on instagram and tik tok pretty candidly
- She cheats on her boyfriend in almost any instance
- Before that, she is stupid enough to publish her naked pics before even having told her boyfriend about the shooting
- She doesn't cheat on her new boyfriend only if he has discplined her and put her on a leash

=> frankly, to me Cindy is just a blonde Kim Kardashian wannabe.
That's exactly why Cindy's path is cool. Making that little brat only yours is just too good to pass up.
 

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I admit I had completely forgotten the path where Wade breaks up with Cindy himself. Probably because I don't pay much attention to this plot in the game as I don't find it interesting, so when I replay the game, at times I get Wade breaking up with Cindy, and others Cindy hooking up with Axel, and I have absolutely no idea on the choices I have made which lead to one outcome or the other (tbh...I don't really care).

However, I really have a hard time identifying the "interesting elements" making her "engaging":

- She's hot ok, that's why I mentioned her as a potential FMF candidate with my loyal Ian/Lena.
- Ok I get the "forbidden fruit" aspect, it is interesting....for exactly one second and a half.
Then what ?
Let's look at her from the start of the game:
- She's a rich girl working for her papa
- She's the kind of people who grabs stuff for free from her poorer friends, but rarely offers anything to them (beer etc.)
- She's not a good sport, super competitive even on the most silly games, and a VERY bad loser
- She does not know anything - and is no that interested - in arts, culture, politics, in anything
- She admires the bimbo influencers on instagram and tik tok pretty candidly
- She cheats on her boyfriend in almost any instance
- Before that, she is stupid enough to publish her naked pics before even having told her boyfriend about the shooting
- She doesn't cheat on her new boyfriend only if he has discplined her and put her on a leash

=> frankly, to me Cindy is just a blonde Kim Kardashian wannabe.
If you think Cindy's a blonde KimK wannabe, then EK has nailed the writing for you to believe that on a superficial level. It's funny that you haven't paid attention to the plot, and yet you have so many nitpicks. I'd suggest you play her current updated romantic path, and most of your queries will be answered by Cindy herself.

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BlandChili

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I admit I had completely forgotten the path where Wade breaks up with Cindy himself. Probably because I don't pay much attention to this plot in the game as I don't find it interesting, so when I replay the game, at times I get Wade breaking up with Cindy, and others Cindy hooking up with Axel, and I have absolutely no idea on the choices I have made which lead to one outcome or the other (tbh...I don't really care).

However, I really have a hard time identifying the "interesting elements" making her "engaging":

- She's hot ok, that's why I mentioned her as a potential FMF candidate with my loyal Ian/Lena.
- Ok I get the "forbidden fruit" aspect, it is interesting....for exactly one second and a half.
Then what ?
Let's look at her from the start of the game:
- She's a rich girl working for her papa
- She's the kind of people who grabs stuff for free from her poorer friends, but rarely offers anything to them (beer etc.)
- She's not a good sport, super competitive even on the most silly games, and a VERY bad loser
- She does not know anything - and is no that interested - in arts, culture, politics, in anything
- She admires the bimbo influencers on instagram and tik tok pretty candidly
- She cheats on her boyfriend in almost any instance
- Before that, she is stupid enough to publish her naked pics before even having told her boyfriend about the shooting
- She doesn't cheat on her new boyfriend only if he has discplined her and put her on a leash

=> frankly, to me Cindy is just a blonde Kim Kardashian wannabe.
Well, many of the points you list as negative traits are some of the details that make her interesting. I don't think a character has to be wholly pleasant to be a fun love interest for your main characters.

So we can address some of the things seperately.
First her background, a daddy's girl who never really challenged herself until she got stuck in life. We see how she shows curiosity towards having a life beyond the day-to-day, reminiscing about the band-past of her friend group, how she falls into modelling at becomes defensive about it, wanting to make it her own thing, etc. The reason why I think this part of her is interesting is because she's at least semi-aware that she's lacking something in life. She falls into the modelling thing with very little grace when it comes to her boyfriend of course, but I think that's pretty reaslistic for a person who's never challenged the boundaries before. I like her and Ian's interactions because Ian actually has some experience and knowledge to share and even though Cindy ends up somewhat bratty if you chide her for some of her behaviour, I think they genuinely have some chemistry where Ian can show her how life can still be enticing. Cindy thinks she's stuck in her lane and Axel offers an option to get unstuck. But like you mention, Cindy's appreciation for modelling and that path in life is superficial, especially when compared to Lena who is almost pretentious about her body-positive look of the field.
As for your final point, like I already said Cindy doesn't need to be on the boundary path not to cheat. Still, for Cindy not to cheat you have to make certain choices, but as with your own professed experience this path can happen entirely dynamically too, Cindy cheating is not a given but a place she ends up if life doesn't pan out the right way. That's not to defend cheating of course, but I think this split with her is interesting just for the sake of branching storytelling. If you happen to only play Ian as a really good friend to Wade, you will only ever see Cindy and him break up normally, without her cheating. That way of playing isn't less legitimate than others.

I get that many of these details are ones that you think makes her unattractive, but to me it just makes her interesting to make choices in regards. I never end up with Axel/Cindy but that's because I always either play the Ian romance or Ian as Wade's true friend.
You regard Cindy as a character where cheating is inevitable, but it's more complicated than so and I think the frustrations she has with life and her relationship are very human, easy to understand. I don't agree with the cheating, but I think anyone can be driven to make stupid mistakes of other kinds when they are met with too much opposing force.
 

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Besides Ian being unable to purchase props to unlock scenes, I’ve also noticed that his Athletics stat hardly demonstrates any impact on stamina-related performance during sex scenes. I hope the devs can make Ian’s Athletics stat play a role in showcasing his endurance in future updates—for example, in scenarios like multiple consecutive rounds of intercourse or sexual endurance competitions.
Ian goes to Japan to compete in the World's Longest Whack championship.
 
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Well, many of the points you list as negative traits are some of the details that make her interesting. I don't think a character has to be wholly pleasant to be a fun love interest for your main characters.

So we can address some of the things seperately.
First her background, a daddy's girl who never really challenged herself until she got stuck in life. We see how she shows curiosity towards having a life beyond the day-to-day, reminiscing about the band-past of her friend group, how she falls into modelling at becomes defensive about it, wanting to make it her own thing, etc. The reason why I think this part of her is interesting is because she's at least semi-aware that she's lacking something in life. She falls into the modelling thing with very little grace when it comes to her boyfriend of course, but I think that's pretty reaslistic for a person who's never challenged the boundaries before. I like her and Ian's interactions because Ian actually has some experience and knowledge to share and even though Cindy ends up somewhat bratty if you chide her for some of her behaviour, I think they genuinely have some chemistry where Ian can show her how life can still be enticing. Cindy thinks she's stuck in her lane and Axel offers an option to get unstuck. But like you mention, Cindy's appreciation for modelling and that path in life is superficial, especially when compared to Lena who is almost pretentious about her body-positive look of the field.
As for your final point, like I already said Cindy doesn't need to be on the boundary path not to cheat. Still, for Cindy not to cheat you have to make certain choices, but as with your own professed experience this path can happen entirely dynamically too, Cindy cheating is not a given but a place she ends up if life doesn't pan out the right way. That's not to defend cheating of course, but I think this split with her is interesting just for the sake of branching storytelling. If you happen to only play Ian as a really good friend to Wade, you will only ever see Cindy and him break up normally, without her cheating. That way of playing isn't less legitimate than others.

I get that many of these details are ones that you think makes her unattractive, but to me it just makes her interesting to make choices in regards. I never end up with Axel/Cindy but that's because I always either play the Ian romance or Ian as Wade's true friend.
You regard Cindy as a character where cheating is inevitable, but it's more complicated than so and I think the frustrations she has with life and her relationship are very human, easy to understand. I don't agree with the cheating, but I think anyone can be driven to make stupid mistakes of other kinds when they are met with too much opposing force.
Thank you for taking the time. You make valid points. However:

- I do get you can make VERY interesting characters thanks to negative attributes, I certainly do not deny that. Villains are always more interesting than heroes. I just don't believe it is the case in this instance. Cindy is not even a villain.
- Her early curiosity about getting out of her shell could have been interesting, I agree. I just feel it was not developed with enough quality to be of interest.
- Do you really find the Cindy/Ian dialogues that interesting ? The first night at the club doesn't go further than a prep talk, then at the museum Ian talks about being creative, Cindy replies she dreams of leading the bimbo lifestyle on Instagram, then fishes for compliments on her looks compared to Lena. The talks in bed are not precisely Shakespeare either, and on the love path the last romance talk on the Cindy update was embarrassingly corny. I think especially about the part where Ian explains (demonstrates, at her request) to her why he thinks she is a wonderful person, I thought his lines must have been picked from one of the cheesy vampire romance books he had to review.
- The cheating per se is not unattractive to me, if it is well led. In that case, I already thought the street corner scene was off. The bed scenes are beautiful, aesthetically probably the best ones of the game. But they bore me. Then comes the Axel photoshoot. I am sure that EK thought she was a smartass introducing us to cheating with Axel via peoplegram, then polaroids. I sneered one second, and forgot about it.

I am sorry to repeat myself: I do take and respect your points and I think they are valid. My take on this is that it is not interesting to the point of delaying developing Ian/Lena as it has been the case right from the start, to deliver....just that.
 
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