VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Zeno2410]

Don't worry, Hun - he didn't deserve you anyway!

I'm obsessed with getting it because it's pretty much the only route I haven't started yet. I have Ian's routes with Alison, Cindy, Cherry, Holly, Emma, Minerva, and Lena (romantic/solo).

I've also seen Lena's routes, but I can't get Ian's "cuckold" route, which I understand involves avoiding sex, having sex with others, until he asks her out and she agrees to a relationship.

PS: I haven't finished chapter 10 of any route because I was trying to unlock them all, reach chapter 10, and have a save file for each one. But when I tried to access this route, I hit a wall and couldn't get through.

 

[BlandChili]

Now that Lena's got her first taste of a threesome.

Lena's been tasting threesomes since getting the Ivy/Holly one way back when. There is one's with Louise and some of Lena's male options as well.

 

[ffive]

You certainly only refer to villains in AVNs. Villains in literature, such as Grouchegnka in the brothers Karamazov or the Thénardier couple in Les Misérables, or Margarita in The Master and Margarita, are some of the best-written characters in the History of fiction.

Well, i'm really referring to villains in all sorts of media -- there are plenty of exaggerated personalities in books, movies, comics, games other than AVNs etc. But of course, there are notable exceptions; Sturgeon's Law is "90% of everything is crap" not "everything is crap". Yet at the same time it's worth recognition that these exceptions are notable in large part because they are exceptions in the sea of crap.

 

[Urist McHorny]

Sean Connery as Seymour is a great cast though I find it tough to picture him doing some of the things Simpmore does lol. The actress I don't know but she's very pretty. Give her some blue contact lenses and she's set. Saerwen what are your thoughts on Sean Connery starring as Sir?

It's Catherine Zeta Jones the Welsh sex symbol of the 90's the movie is called Entrapment(1999)

 

[ffive]

Holly's slut path isn't even that unrealistic. Its just too fast. At least the going to suck dick to getting railed in a gloryhole.

Holly doesn't just jump between those two, though. In between she also fucks, potentially with quite a few guys.

It's also kind of funny that this is hardly different from any female protagonist in your typical "corruption game" who can also jump to sucking cocks in gloryholes after a week at most even though she starts as a blushing virgin, but those don't invoke "muh realism" outcry; quite the opposite -- guys are more than happy to make/play such "unrealistic characters" instead of even trying to hold back with the debauchery.

 

[Blurpee69]

If these things were so controversial and so bad even to the community, then it'd be no issue to just remove them entirely right? Who cares if Eva removes them. The original version would still be there for you to play. GGGB is still worth your time and is better in some aspects compared to ORS and I wish for her to remake it someday with her updated artstyle.

A) They weren't controversial to the community of GGGB. At least not the majority of the community anyway, as they mostly knew what they were getting into. They would however be controversial to companies such as Valve, Visa, Mastercard, and probably the population at large.

2) Ripping out half of the "Bad Girl" endings of Good Girl Gone Bad, would really defeat the purpose would it not? Unnecessarily watering down the product.

2.a) Spending time updating a game's art assets when a large portion of the game is getting removed is a total waste of time for EK's supporters, and EK risks losing a bunch of them.​

B.2) If EK does decide to remake the game AND fill in the holes left by removing the controversial segements; then EK is still required to basically build almost of quarter of a new game. So why not just make a whole new game anyway?​

 

[BlandChili]

Holly doesn't just jump between those two, though. In between she also fucks, potentially with quite a few guys.

It can be somewhat variable though, right? If I recall correctly just getting Holly with either Mark, Robert or Ivy turns her towards the slut route so you get the same result if she gets with just one as if she gets with all three.

Perhaps it would have suited the route to have a place in the story where she could be encouraged to continue, or encouraged to turn back if she had only gotten with one, dipped her toes as it were, but not if she'd gotten with two or all three of them?

 

[ffive]

It can be somewhat variable though, right? If I recall correctly just getting Holly with either Mark, Robert or Ivy turns her towards the slut route so you get the same result if she gets with just one as if she gets with all three.

I think (i don't have the game's script at hand to check) getting together with just one guy is enough for the escalation and that it happens largely behind the scenes, with Ivy "teaching" Holly all on her own. Robert is optional, but if Holly is on that path she'll automatically accept Clark's advances and possibly some others? Overall, we don't actually see much of that path (liky Ivy getting her trademark tattoo on Holly's butt, e.g.) so it's fairly easy to handwave that there's quite a bit of stuff happening that we aren't privy to, but which smooths out the "transition" regardless of player's minor choices after you feed Holly to Ivy.

 

[whamma]

Lena's been tasting threesomes since getting the Ivy/Holly one way back when. There is one's with Louise and some of Lena's male options as well.

I meant her first mmf threesome.

 

[BlandChili]

I think (i don't have the game's script at hand to check) getting together with just one guy is enough for the escalation and that it happens largely behind the scenes, with Ivy "teaching" Holly all on her own. Robert is optional, but if Holly is on that path she'll automatically accept Clark's advances and possibly some others? Overall, we don't actually see much of that path (liky Ivy getting her trademark tattoo on Holly's butt, e.g.) so it's fairly easy to handwave that there's quite a bit of stuff happening that we aren't privy to, but which smooths out the "transition" regardless of player's minor choices after you feed Holly to Ivy.

I guess, but Holly getting with Ivy is optional as well, at least initially. You can get Holly going slut where the only things you see with her is her getting with Mark for example and if you've progressed Lena/Holly she won't get with Clark either. Ivy is of course still directing Holly it seems, but they aren't having sex with each other either. In that version it feels very sudden that she goes from just fucking Mark to going into a full gloryhole bonanza.

 

[Zeno2410]

YESSSSSS finally that's it! When Lena has the dream where you can suck Axel's dick or not, you have to refuse. And then, after the fight (or not) with Robert, go to Ian's house, do 69, and the next morning with Lena, she lets you choose whether to do it or not.

Thank you all so much!

 

[dantder]

YESSSSSS finally that's it! When Lena has the dream where you can suck Axel's dick or not, you have to refuse. And then, after the fight (or not) with Robert, go to Ian's house, do 69, and the next morning with Lena, she lets you choose whether to do it or not.

Thank you all so much!

Oh yeah, its the lena_axel_desire flag, which is also the one that let's you get the domination fantasy early. Setting it to true, rejecting Axel for 1 Will in the next photoshoot and staying true to the Ian/Lena path adds a couple lines to Lena's internal monologue if you go for Dom Ian.

 

[DaLuke2]

Well, i'm really referring to villains in all sorts of media -- there are plenty of exaggerated personalities in books, movies, comics, games other than AVNs etc. But of course, there are notable exceptions; Sturgeon's Law is "90% of everything is crap" not "everything is crap". Yet at the same time it's worth recognition that these exceptions are notable in large part because they are exceptions in the sea of crap.

Well that's a given isn't it: 90% of AVNs are crap, just not all of them.

 

[DaLuke2]

Sean Connery as Seymour is a great cast though I find it tough to picture him doing some of the things Simpmore does lol. The actress I don't know but she's very pretty. Give her some blue contact lenses and she's set. Saerwen what are your thoughts on Sean Connery starring as Sir?

The girl is Catherine Zeta Jones, who is married IRL with Michael Douglas, who is 40 years older than her IRL. To quote Lena speaking to Jeremy about her new tatoo: "it might be quite fitting, all things considered".

 

[JohnnyRider75018]

Sean Connery as Seymour is a great cast though I find it tough to picture him doing some of the things Simpmore does lol. The actress I don't know but she's very pretty. Give her some blue contact lenses and she's set. Saerwen what are your thoughts on Sean Connery starring as Sir?

It's the actress from Wales and the wife of actor Michael Douglas. Her name is Catherine Zeta Jones. She played in the movie "The Mask Of Zorro"...
And that picture with Sean Connery is from the movie "Entrapment"...

 

[Saerwen]

Sean Connery as Seymour is a great cast though I find it tough to picture him doing some of the things Simpmore does lol. The actress I don't know but she's very pretty. Give her some blue contact lenses and she's set. Saerwen what are your thoughts on Sean Connery starring as Sir?

I don't have some special opinion about him but I wouldn't mind him as Seymour. I think that no other actor could play him better if he were to audition in real life ORS movie. I mean, he was at peak masculinity during James Bond era. It's like Sean have a dominant aura and he knows that so there's no reason to brag, you just notice.

 

[Saerwen]

The girl is Catherine Zeta Jones, who is married IRL with Michael Douglas, who is 40 years older than her IRL. To quote Lena speaking to Jeremy about her new tatoo: "it might be quite fitting, all things considered".

It's 25 age difference actually.

 

[sztrb]

A) They weren't controversial to the community of GGGB. At least not the majority of the community anyway, as they mostly knew what they were getting into. They would however be controversial to companies such as Valve, Visa, Mastercard, and probably the population at large.

2) Ripping out half of the "Bad Girl" endings of Good Girl Gone Bad, would really defeat the purpose would it not? Unnecessarily watering down the product.

2.a) Spending time updating a game's art assets when a large portion of the game is getting removed is a total waste of time for EK's supporters, and EK risks losing a bunch of them.​

B.2) If EK does decide to remake the game AND fill in the holes left by removing the controversial segements; then EK is still required to basically build almost of quarter of a new game. So why not just make a whole new game anyway?​

Its interesting to see the difference between Western eroge and Japanese eroge (where there seems to be more of a mainstream market for it). Japanese developers, not only develop games at a faster rate with often more quality, they are also not that worried about upsetting pay systems in place.

Although, Japanese eroge do have do deal with censors.

It's the actress from Wales and the wife of actor Michael Douglas. Her name is Catherine Zeta Jones. She played in the movie "The Mask Of Zorro"...
And that picture with Sean Connery is from the movie "Entrapment"...

I thought she was Michael Scarn's wife?

 

[Ruse1985]

How do I have an Ian/Lena/Holly party? I already made Lena love Ian, but that drove Holly away and in the meantime Lena is cheating with Ian. In another game I tried to stay open for both, but it's open without the trisal and I've already ended the party at the beach house

 

[dantder]

How do I have an Ian/Lena/Holly party? I already made Lena love Ian, but that drove Holly away and in the meantime Lena is cheating with Ian. In another game I tried to stay open for both, but it's open without the trisal and I've already ended the party at the beach house

I gave a pretty straightfoward explanation a few pages back, the cheating shouldn't really matter, but as far as I know you need a commited relationship (i.e. not friends with benefits) either as Ian/Holly or Ian/Lena for it to be possible.