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Gicoo

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Also, its the ideal conclusion to the fighting gameplay. Axel was introduced as a beef guy and makes use of that by quickly going in physical confrontations the moment other guys step in. So finishing this by him having another outrage and high athletics Ian having a low but existent chance to beat him is satisfying.

Yeah, in RL it isn't cool to get into fights (nowadays to beat someone you just sue them), but in fiction its quite rewarding.
 

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Walking away from fights if it is possible, is the way to go. So many people have changed their trajectories of their lives and the person involved with just one wrong punch or a takedown.
In real life 100% sure. However games/movies and media in general, would be rather boring if we never had any violence because everybody was a pacifist and just decided to 'walk away'.
 
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Walking away from fights if it is possible, is the way to go. So many people have changed their trajectories of their lives and the person involved with just one wrong punch or a takedown.
Especially since fights(street fights) are not fair game but involve knives and guns. Everyone is tough with that crap but let's see how brave and tough they are with fists. And I won't talk about those who hold a guy while another beats him. Very mature. :rolleyes:
 

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The purpose is to make those people who can't stand knowing Axel's dick is bigger and that he actually knows how to use it to drive Lena wild, to feel better. :whistle::coffee:
Well, you aren't wrong. I still prefer him over Jeremy, I just can't stand him. Axel is perfect for toxic macho-Alpha-Chad frat stud-fuckboy type of male character I read about. I mean that ex hate fuck style.
 

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So if I wanted to make Ian a fuckboy, which routes and characters should I avoid to not cheat? Basically who can Ian fuck without having to commit to a relationship?
 

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In real life 100% sure. However games/movies and media in general, would be rather boring if we never had any violence because everybody was a pacifist and just decided to 'walk away'.
You'd be surprised how influenced people get from watching the media. But yes, I get your point.
Especially since fights(street fights) are not fair game but involve knives and guns. Everyone is tough with that crap but let's see how brave and tough they are with fists. And I won't talk about those who hold a guy while another beats him. Very mature. :rolleyes:
Street fights were never fair to begin with. If you want a fair fight, then it's the ring with official rules. Sucks the fun out of it, but it's true.
 

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So if I wanted to make Ian a fuckboy, which routes and characters should I avoid to not cheat? Basically who can Ian fuck without having to commit to a relationship?
Just avoid love options and he can fuck pretty much everyone. Pick Cindy over Holly first, because Holly can get fucked later on (if she is corrupted),

The order is something like Cherry, Alison, Lena, Emma, Minerva, Cindy, Bad Jess, Holly, Louise.
 

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Just avoid love options and he can fuck pretty much everyone. Pick Cindy over Holly first, because Holly can get fucked later on (if she is corrupted),

The order is something like Cherry, Alison, Lena, Emma, Minerva, Cindy, Bad Jess, Holly, Louise.
I wanted to ask about Louise. What if I have her and Lena fuck, can Ian still get with her? I'm assuming it happens later in the game since I haven't gotten far enough to even get the option.
 

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You can fuck Bad Jess?
I must have missed something (with my "chad"Ian run)! :LOL:
You can have sex with Bad Jess yes, but it results in her completely ignoring you going forward. She gets really pissed, because she, rightfully, views it of Ian just taking advantage of her like so many other people in her life.

However, if you refrain from having sex with her and treat her like someone who is in need emotionally she starts to become very interested in Ian and will ask Lena about him during the Nymph pool party. That's as far as that storyline has gone so far, but I think it's one of the more interesting and endearing ones that's been sitting on the back burner for a while.
 

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I wanted to ask about Louise. What if I have her and Lena fuck, can Ian still get with her? I'm assuming it happens later in the game since I haven't gotten far enough to even get the option.
Yeah, its later in chapter 12. Lena always ditches Louise, so she can't prevent that.
 
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(Holly Trinity)

- lena as girlfriend (if Holly as girlfriend, it will lock minerva route)
- how to achive heart kiss (as lena)
- what the condition to achieve this
- what chapters affect this
- how to encourage holly (as both ian and lena)
- how to enable heart option (as lena)
- is there any specific dialogue that affected the enabling this trinity

Can anyone help me with walkthrough?
 

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(Holly Trinity)

- lena as girlfriend (if Holly as girlfriend, it will lock minerva route)
- how to achive heart kiss (as lena)
- what the condition to achieve this
- what chapters affect this
- how to encourage holly (as both ian and lena)
- how to enable heart option (as lena)
- is there any specific dialogue that affected the enabling this trinity

Can anyone help me with walkthrough?
If Lena is Ian's girlfriend, she won't kiss Holly, but choosing that option still indicates interest and leads to the trinity later on in chapter 12.
Also, the trinity may not happen if they are in relationship with others. A distinctive exception is Seymour.
 
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There are some similarities and it may overlap. If Lena wants to date Holly, she can lose her to Ivy.
But generally, Holly either stays a shy nerd or becomes a slut (assuming neither Ian and Lena date her).
I'm trying to go for the Ian/Lena/Holly route in this case. Can I still pick pick the options but discourage the more extreme stuff Ivy suggests?
There are 3 "types" of Holly in the game. One is the shy nerd, then we have "encouraged" Holly and slutty Holly. There is both a difference and some overlap between encouraged Holly and wild Holly. Encouraged Holly is usually in a relationship with Ian with Ian, Lena and Ivy encouraging her to become more bold, more selfconfident, which leads to some nice scenes. Encouraged Holly for instance can wear the more sexy bikini at the beach and still have the Schopenhauer book with her. Encouraged Holly can be, depending on the choices done, just a bit or a lot more bold.
Wild Holly is not in reltionship with Ian (at first) and becomes slutty in the partly (depends on what type of Ian we play) mistaken belief that Ian prefers wild, slutty girls for girlfriend. During the beach vacation and onward we have choices for Ian how he feels about wild Holly. You can try to start a relationship with her (according to our code gurus there is a love variable/flag for Ian/wild Holly), which will certainly impact her further development, since now she can gain what she wanted, Ian´s love. When we last saw them, slutty Holly needs a place to stay, since she finally blew up against her suffocating family. It is not a leap to propose that we as Ian can convince her to stay at Ian/Perry´s flat, if we like her.(There is already a funny scene with Perry and Emma listening at the door, wanting to know who Ian is with) It also leads to Ian thinking about looking for an own flat in the future, together with Holly.
If you go for Ian and wild Holly becoming fuckbuddies or staying simply friends, it is probable Ivy leading Holly down an even more dark path than before so far.
 
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