dolfe67

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Non slut wholesome and art focused Lena faithful and exclusive for Ian isn't that apart from the norm.
Your divergence was by having her no charisma and strategically avoiding the countless options to increase it. There is no promising low charisma path that changes her behavior and character like wits and lust can do. Raising charisma and benefiting from the countless "better" responses that come with it make raising it a natural, smooth playstyle. You went out of your way to play against the games logic.
Going out of the way is not the problem, the game allows it. It's a bug, an edge case that the dev didn't foresee. Sure there are ways to prevent it by making different choices but it's still a bug in need of fixing by lowering the requirement or adding a basic choice to continue the game.
 

Gicoo

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Going out of the way is not the problem, the game allows it. It's a bug, an edge case that the dev didn't foresee. Sure there are ways to prevent it by making different choices but it's still a bug in need of fixing by lowering the requirement or adding a basic choice to continue the game.
Sure.
In other terms its softlocking, like selling all your equipment and releasing all party members right before a fight with no option of backtracking and training. Or getting on an island city in Pokemon and releasing all your monsters who could fly or surf out of it.
 

Blurpee69

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Lore wise, even the idiots have at least 4 wit.

10: Seymour
8: Holly
7: Agnes, Axel, Minerva, Alison
6: Good Jess, Mike, Cherry, Ian, Lena, Molly
5: Wen, Bad Jess, Ed, Ivy, Louise, Emma
4: Billy, Robert, Jeremy, Cindy, Wade, Perry
Cindy being among the "idiots" is never not funny to me. Considering how she acts towards the rest of the Scooby Gang
 

Angelcrush

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Lore wise, even the idiots have at least 4 wit.

10: Seymour
8: Holly
7: Agnes, Axel, Minerva, Alison
6: Good Jess, Mike, Cherry, Ian, Lena, Molly
5: Wen, Bad Jess, Ed, Ivy, Louise, Emma
4: Billy, Robert, Jeremy, Cindy, Wade, Perry
Bro get outa here, Seymor is not a ten :poop:
 

varpep

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Lore wise, even the idiots have at least 4 wit.

10: Seymour
8: Holly
7: Agnes, Axel, Minerva, Alison
6: Good Jess, Mike, Cherry, Ian, Lena, Molly
5: Wen, Bad Jess, Ed, Ivy, Louise, Emma
4: Billy, Robert, Jeremy, Cindy, Wade, Perry
Canonically Axel is even smarter than Ian. How can Ian even compete at this point lol?
 

Phillipoque

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So the options you say don't exist don't matter. She and Axel fucked with all sorts of heteronormative kinks.
Hmm. As far as I understand, this game lacks what is called "objective reality." Choosing options changes reality. For example, a girl from a tattoo parlor can be two different personalities, depending on Lena's choice made before this character first appears on the screen. So, I guess if you "don't know" about something during the course of the game, it's like it never happened.
 
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BlandChili

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Hmm. As far as I understand, this game lacks what is called "objective reality." Choosing options changes reality. For example, a girl from a tattoo parlor can be two different personalities, depending on Lena's choice made before this character first appears on the screen. So, I guess if you "don't know" about something during the course of the game, it's like it never happened.
It's more the exception rather than the rule. The thing that determined Jess' version has even changed during development so it's not really meant to align with a specific version of Lena even.
Until chapter 12 changes to the characters backgrounds have been very minimal, if there were any. Ch. 12 is when Lena got variable backgrounds depending on her stats.
As far as we know the details of Axel's relationship with Lena are static and not dynamic.
 

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Hmm. As far as I understand, this game lacks what is called "objective reality." Choosing options changes reality. For example, a girl from a tattoo parlor can be two different personalities, depending on Lena's choice made before this character first appears on the screen. So, I guess if you "don't know" about something during the course of the game, it's like it never happened.
If that makes you feel better about the Axel/Lena thing go for it man :BootyTime:.
 

DaLuke2

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Non slut wholesome and art focused Lena faithful and exclusive for Ian isn't that apart from the norm.
Your divergence was by having her no charisma and strategically avoiding the countless options to increase it. There is no promising low charisma path that changes her behavior and character like wits and lust can do. Raising charisma and benefiting from the countless "better" responses that come with it make raising it a natural, smooth playstyle. You went out of your way to play against the games logic.
Oh absolutely, I don't deny that. There is so much time between updates that every once in a while I try an absurd playthrough.

For example I have one where Lena picks all the lust options available, but only sleeps with Ian. I wanted to see how she would be written in that case. I have tons of other stupid variations.
 

Phillipoque

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In this case, it always seems more like something Seymour imagines himself to be.
He doesn't know a thing about manipulating people. Primitive bribery and threats - that's his whole arsenal. 10, seriously? :) Nietzsche would not be proud of such a follower.
 
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