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starkj
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Bit late to this but i think only Kotone is for a bit in that room with the smoke but the others you can protect them. I used a guide for the harem route.
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thank you for sharing! Could you pls kindly guide me how to extract text from .ain file? I wish to translate the game into thai for fun. However I don't see any supported app run on macos. Would be greatly appreciated if you may send me a txt file of your english translation version in txt! Many thanks!
All of you guys saves are different than the ones on my game. Also for some reason the actual saves are put somewhere else on windows and i can't find it. Even deleting the game does not reset the saves.
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Occasional mistakes here and there, but overall it's well done and completely coherent.
Sorf5050
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I know this is a year old but what is this odd strawman you just built?
"She is regularly getting fucked by dudes"
"If you are one of those guys where looking at another cock is cheating..."
Like what? I guess I am insecure because I don't want to become invested in a whore?
Iexist
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I'm not sure what the strawman argument has to do with the conversation I was having with the other guy... since there wasn't any argument to begin with. It's a fact that the perception of NTR as a fetish is extremely broad these days, while the literal meaning of the word "netorare" is "to steal by sleeping with". As in the "to sleep with" is the means to the end, aka the "stealing", and only when both happen do you have netorare in the literal sense.
Of course, the literal meaning of the word and the general definition of the fetish are not the same thing, and netorare just plain means different things to different people.
Moving on, I can't comment on you being insecure or not, because quite frankly we're talking about .PNGs here, not real people. Whether you want to invest time in some VN or game and its characters is a matter of preference and fetish, not confidence or morality or anything like that. Potential viewers of this forum might maybe consider you insecure for reacting so vehemently to a conversation from ages ago that you weren't involved with, but that's just people being people.
As for "being invested in a whore"... well, that's not exactly true, and it's not like Kotone's a slut or anything like that. Kotone is being coerced, drugged and basically literally raped every time she's being subject to a "banquet". She's doing everything she can to get through it without getting pregnant and she very much does love the MC, but it's not like she has a choice. She's not a slut by choice or preference by any means and her bad endings generally have her angry at the person taking her away or literally mind-broken because of drug overdose, etc. If she's a "whore", it's definitely not out of her own free will or preference.
There's obviously a lot I could say tbh, but, uh... If it's not your thing, then it's not your thing. No one's forcing you to play the VN.
I can see you can write a lot, doesn't mean you said much.
She is still a whore, even if forced. I don't even think most media portrays whores as it being their primary consensual lifestyle choice, so idk why you are acting like I am the one who does not know what it means.
Yeah, I agree that NTR is divided between "Physical" and "Emotional" cheating, with the latter building up to the first. But the line "if the girl even looks at another guy's dick she's being NTRed" Is clearly an exaggerated example, which is trying to paint anyone who isn't Travis Bickle trying to play captain-save-a-whore in a negative light. No normal person would think that and you some how wrote four paragraphs without even addressing it.
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That's not what I was trying to say about NTR with my statements... but whatever, there's not real point in debating that, and this is not the place for it anyway.
The exaggeration is more me making fun of the super dedicated harem fanatics who can't even stand if other guys exist in the same world as "their" girls. The people that cry NTR over the smallest thing, because, yes, there are people who genuinely consider it NTR if a girl even sees another guy's dick, much less anything else. I don't typically have a problem with people feeling like that... but a lot of these types are very vocal kink-shamers, and I absolutely loathe kink-shamers.
Leaving that aside for a moment... While I wouldn't expect Random Person A to be Random Whore's B hero or anything like that in most situations... I also wouldn't say that a whore doesn't deserve to be saved and loved and end up with a good life if it wasn't her choice to end up as a whore. No offence, but, uh, it's like you're saying that rape victims don't deserve to have a fulfilling love life. What, does a woman stop being a person if she's forced into being a whore?
However, let's leave that aside. Odds are you don't mean anything bad with those words, not matter how they look, and you're specifically talking about the VN and its characters. We're not here to talk about real life or morality after all.
In the context of Oyako Rankan, Kotone is not a "random whore" or anything like that to the MC. She's a girl he grew up with and which he loves, and which he discovers that she's in a very shitty situation. I'd say it's pretty normal to want to save her, and also pretty normal to keep loving her. I'd imagine most people wouldn't just stop loving a girl they'd known for most of their life just because some assholes raped her and she has no choice but to keep being raped. I'd imagine that most people would get angry, try to do something about it, figure something out.
All that said, it's not like there aren't routes where MC doesn't end up with Kotone at all. He can steal Saya from her husband or get together with Ririko, Saya's daughter, though he still saves Kotone even if he doesn't end up with her in the romantic sense.
Not like it matters. The point of my original reply still stands. No one's forcing you to play this VN or play Kotone's route specifically or any of the related content. No one's personally attacking you or looking down on you. Not even me, even if my words may be rude depending on how you look at them. Though I certainly don't mind discussing the VN itself.