Enlight432

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someone told me that ntr can be avoided, but when I play ntr occurs, does he mean that ntr can be skipped? Or can we completely prevent the occurrence of NTR?
 

AlexKunKun

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I searched this thread and didn't find the answer.
Why are there places with a block symbol?

I'm on the 13th and I decided to do an action with the MC at night, in which Kotone was in the solon, and I was supposed to go with her to help with the "feast", but the game simply didn't allow me to go, it was scheduled as blocked. So, I had to choose another action, and soon after I took NTR from Kotone with Shinohara.

Is this on purpose of the game and there is no way to avoid the scene? Or do I need to take some action to remove these actions that are blocked?

Even with Saya there are these blocks.
 

InsaneMonster

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someone told me that ntr can be avoided, but when I play ntr occurs, does he mean that ntr can be skipped? Or can we completely prevent the occurrence of NTR?
The only unavoidable NTR is between Kotone and Iketani on Day 6. Skipping NTR hides the scene from being played, but the NTR event still occurs. Otherwise, in-game NTR events can be avoided completely with game mechanics and strategy.

I searched this thread and didn't find the answer.
Why are there places with a block symbol?

I'm on the 13th and I decided to do an action with the MC at night, in which Kotone was in the solon, and I was supposed to go with her to help with the "feast", but the game simply didn't allow me to go, it was scheduled as blocked. So, I had to choose another action, and soon after I took NTR from Kotone with Shinohara.

Is this on purpose of the game and there is no way to avoid the scene? Or do I need to take some action to remove these actions that are blocked?

Even with Saya there are these blocks.
Blocks generally follow rulesets determined by storyline so yes they are placed with purpose. For example, you will see blocks during Ririko's body check up, Kotone's feast at midnight, Saya's talk session with the villagers etc. That being said, Kotone/Shinohara's NTR won't begin until Kotone/Koide's NTR has already advanced, and IIRC this happens when you missed at least 2 feast prep session with Kotone, usually happening during Night 2 at salon with a (?) indicator. I think it would be better that you provide a save or a screenshot of your progress for us to look at this further, or load a previous save/start new if you've missed the flags.
 

AlexKunKun

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Sep 3, 2023
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That being said, Kotone/Shinohara's NTR won't begin until Kotone/Koide's NTR has already advanced, and IIRC this happens when you missed at least 2 feast prep session with Kotone, usually happening during Night 2 at salon with a (?) indicator. I think it would be better that you provide a save or a screenshot of your progress for us to look at this further, or load a previous save/start new if you've missed the flags.
I can't publish a print, as I already saved it above.

But thanks to your explanation, I think that's exactly what happened.
The game is already starting to build Koide's relationship with Kotone, but there has been no significant progress.
However, regarding the "?" symbol, I skip some depending on the action that takes place, so I go back with the save and do another action, since the next day the "?" Come back at the same time to continue the story.
There will probably be an option "?" in the salon for kotone, and i did another action with another girl. Even though the game warned that if I didn't compare Shinoraha it would prepare for the "feast", I didn't realize that I had to do it every night.
As the game doesn't say which day the kotone will go to the "banquet", I took this ntr as a mistake.

This is a really good game. As I've read, you should play this game more than once to get other scenes on other routes, or, in this case, avoid a route.
 

SWTiger

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this game or translate is bug I can't rest at Attic to recover stamina
I had the same problem. This helped me. It is important to strictly follow the algorithm

This is a previously known issue that has been fixed.
  1. Download from the opening post both the game and the patch.
  2. Extract the game.
  3. Apply the patch under Japanese localization to replace contents in the game folder.
  4. Run a new game under Japanese localization.
  5. The rest option in attic should now be available.
 

cdvz23

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Is the patch down for anyone else? It seems to lead to 404: Not Found
Apparently his Github profile has been nuked but I don't know the real reason why, you'll have to ask dazedanon if you want to know more I guess. Patch can be found at now.
 
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Iexist

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So those who say in the rating section that NTR is completely avoidable are wrong
I mean, depends on which definition of NTR you subscribe too here.

Can you prevent Kotone from getting fucked by other guys? Nope. That's basically the whole point of the story so to speak. she regularly gets fucked by other dudes until the story's over. So while in theory you only have to see one scene of that happening to her, in practice, every time a banquet happens, she's getting fucked by at least one person and that can't be prevented. The family is literally getting paid for it after all.

Can you prevent her from getting impregnated by other guys and turned into their wife or any such similar things where she's definitely taken away for real? Yes. Can you prevent her from falling in love with any other guy because of the overwhelming strength of their dick or whatnot? Also yes. Can you ensure that she becomes MC's wife or whatever? Absolutely yes.

So if your definition of NTR is the most literal one, aka "to be taken away by sleeping with", then yes, you can absolutely prevent the NTR. The "sleeping with" part can't be prevented, but that's the method through which she's taken away, not the result or end all be all of NTR. It's like theft prevention. If a thief tries to break through your door and damages, but fails to get in and steal anything, well, you still prevented the theft.

If, however, you're one of the people who subscribes to the "if the girl even looks at another guy's dick she's being NTRed" definition, well, I dunno what to tell ya bud. Just focus on the other too sloots? Though Saya IS married, so there's some scenes involving her having sex with her hubby and stuff. (So technically, MCs NTRs her away from her husband.) The only one who you can ensure never gets touched by another dude is Ririko.
 

Enlight432

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I mean, depends on which definition of NTR you subscribe too here.

Can you prevent Kotone from getting fucked by other guys? Nope. That's basically the whole point of the story so to speak. she regularly gets fucked by other dudes until the story's over. So while in theory you only have to see one scene of that happening to her, in practice, every time a banquet happens, she's getting fucked by at least one person and that can't be prevented. The family is literally getting paid for it after all.

Can you prevent her from getting impregnated by other guys and turned into their wife or any such similar things where she's definitely taken away for real? Yes. Can you prevent her from falling in love with any other guy because of the overwhelming strength of their dick or whatnot? Also yes. Can you ensure that she becomes MC's wife or whatever? Absolutely yes.

So if your definition of NTR is the most literal one, aka "to be taken away by sleeping with", then yes, you can absolutely prevent the NTR. The "sleeping with" part can't be prevented, but that's the method through which she's taken away, not the result or end all be all of NTR. It's like theft prevention. If a thief tries to break through your door and damages, but fails to get in and steal anything, well, you still prevented the theft.

If, however, you're one of the people who subscribes to the "if the girl even looks at another guy's dick she's being NTRed" definition, well, I dunno what to tell ya bud. Just focus on the other too sloots? Though Saya IS married, so there's some scenes involving her having sex with her hubby and stuff. (So technically, MCs NTRs her away from her husband.) The only one who you can ensure never gets touched by another dude is Ririko.
Thank you very much, your explanation was interesting and complete, I understood
 

Silent Anu

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So i downloaded and extracted the game and got this msg. Installed the patch from gitgud link but still showing the same msg. What am I doing wrong?

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Nia Nekomae

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Is there a way to unlock the entire gallery without playing through all?
there is a full gallery save in ealier posts i belive

also anyone else getting a error that says alicestart.ini cannot be loaded regardless os using LE?
EDIT: if you have that problem: make sure your filepath doesnt have japanese symbols... turns outthat causes the error
 
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