VN Ren'Py Package Perfect [v0.6] [Lewtopia]

[Knight_of_the_lance]

Trying to flip it around doesn't work like you think it does, and is laughably silly sorry.
- The dev clearly has a certain fetish which he made this game for
- The target audience is obviously people who like big dicked futa characters
- The audience in a broader scale is just people who like futa

Where does the SHE NEEDS 8 INCHES MAX OR I WONT PLAY THIS audience fit into the equation? An annoying but insistently pestering loud minority.

You're right with this being the Dev's first game, he will forcibly be shown what happens when you start to cater to people who aren't his target audience, they will continue to complain and whine without considering that perhaps this game just isn't for them in the first place.

About the whole forum / wipe situation, I'm not aware of that as I already said above in my first post that this is my first time engaging with the game. But from reading through the thread its very clear which type of fan would actually support him, and it certainly isn't going to be the ones """threatening""" him with their credit card by saying they won't support it unless he meets their demands.

The flipping of argument around is precisely to show you how silly it is not to seriously use it. And come on I doubt that even with a 20% reduction the dick will only be 8" it'll still be at the verry least 14" or even 16" if not a bit more.

The argument I am making is that the dev made a reduction in size to have an easier time learning the program not to cave in. The goal is to keep their vision intact while having a great time working with it. All i'm saying is that this debate is counter productive and second guessing the dev is only pushing them away. It's much more productive to encourage them in their endeavor. Yes it's clear making big dicked girls having fun is their end goal. That has not changed. The bigger the better if I understood correctly how that kink works, but to whine to the dev that they have abandoned their vision is disingenuous. They clearly still want to do big dicked girl fucking others.

I just can't wait for 0.1 for the that debate to die down. It currently feel like one side is beating down a dead horse and the other side rather than point it out see the horse twitching so they go take their own bat to beat it too.

I had a lot of questions for the family because I will never believe that the sisters didn't see each other naked while growing up .( ఠ ͟ʖ ఠ)

That is actually a point the dev acknowledged earlier so it will be addressed or alluded to in 0.1 I believe. They have a lot of work to get that version ready with all the good feedback they got. That point is the obvious one to me. Even then she doesn't have periods, at one point that is bound to rise the suspicions of the other two. How come she doesn't need pads or tempons. Did she go see the doctor for that and what did they say is the MC baren? It can go far. You are right that subterfuge is hard to maintain.

 

[Boyim]

The implication, with good reading comprehension, would be that he was referring not specifically to larger than a minority, which would be the majority as you say if taken literally, but instead a not insignificant comparable size.

An impossible take considering what was actually conveyed and how it was used.
If the amount of people who like small or average futa cocks is ~"greater than a minority enough that it is meaningful to pander to them instead of those who prefer larger."

Then one, we have made two camps out of three. And two, even the combination of small and average preferring futa fans are still not big enough to be considered "not a minority", being far outweighed by big cocked futa fans. This evidenced by a cursory search of any booru.

There is no nuance that saves the statement. He was flatly wrong, and it ought to be pointed out.
The vast majority of futa fans like big futa cocks, and that sort of 'big' begins at the limits of real pornography and goes up from there.

 

[baiorensujaku]

An impossible take considering what was actually conveyed and how it was used.
If the amount of people who like small or average futa cocks is ~"greater than a minority enough that it is meaningful to pander to them instead of those who prefer larger."

Then one, we have made two camps out of three. And two, even the combination of small and average preferring futa fans are still not big enough to be considered "not a minority", being far outweighed by big cocked futa fans. This evidenced by a cursory search of any booru.

There is no nuance that saves the statement. He was flatly wrong, and it ought to be pointed out.
The vast majority of futa fans like big futa cocks, and that sort of 'big' begins at the limits of real pornography and goes up from there.

I havent really read through this thread, but I dont think people mind the cock being a size that puts most real-life porn actors to shame. But that isnt the case here, the penis is super-massive it looks especially ridiculous on a petite teenager. I cant imagine the MC having enough blood in her system to sustain an erection and other vital bodily functions at the same time. Disregarding that there is also the fact the cock is very impractical it cant fit inside a persons mouth and putting it in either hole would probably lead to death. I know this fantasy, but even fantasy should adhere to some rules, so I am glad the dev has decided to nerf the cock at least a little bit.

Penile drama aside, the game looks very good, love the quality of the art and the character designs. The only thing I find a little disappointing is the fact that its another high-school drama. "Super hormonal teenage futa most keep her secret from everyone" is done in pretty much every major futa game. This isn't necessarily bad, but it would be nice to have a futa game set in a setting that more or less accepts futas and just focus on the character relationships.
Either way I look forward to seeing how the game will progress.

 

[omfgmule]

The flipping of argument around is precisely to show you how silly it is not to seriously use it. And come on I doubt that even with a 20% reduction the dick will only be 8" it'll still be at the verry least 14" or even 16" if not a bit more.

The argument I am making is that the dev made a reduction in size to have an easier time learning the program not to cave in. The goal is to keep their vision intact while having a great time working with it. All i'm saying is that this debate is counter productive and second guessing the dev is only pushing them away. It's much more productive to encourage them in their endeavor. Yes it's clear making big dicked girls having fun is their end goal. That has not changed. The bigger the better if I understood correctly how that kink works, but to whine to the dev that they have abandoned their vision is disingenuous. They clearly still want to do big dicked girl fucking others.

I just can't wait for 0.1 for the that debate to die down. It currently feel like one side is beating down a dead horse and the other side rather than point it out see the horse twitching so they go take their own bat to beat it too.


That is actually a point the dev acknowledged earlier so it will be addressed or alluded to in 0.1 I believe. They have a lot of work to get that version ready with all the good feedback they got. That point is the obvious one to me. Even then she doesn't have periods, at one point that is bound to rise the suspicions of the other two. How come she doesn't need pads or tempons. Did she go see the doctor for that and what did they say is the MC baren? It can go far. You are right that subterfuge is hard to maintain.

You're not posting in good faith and you know it. At the very least it should be easy to understand that small dicked futanari fans are the minority when you consider the overwhelming majority of games, doujin, literary stories, use a large or very large size. If you want to play pretend and say thats not the case then its embarrasing and overly transparent what your angle is.

Whats going to happen is the dev is going to shrink her dick as he said, and people like you will continue to complain its too big until eventually it annoys him as it already has majority of people in this thread.

 

[Rexermus]

You're not posting in good faith and you know it. At the very least it should be easy to understand that small dicked futanari fans are the minority when you consider the overwhelming majority of games, doujin, literary stories, use a large or very large size. If you want to play pretend and say thats not the case then its embarrasing and overly transparent what your angle is.

Whats going to happen is the dev is going to shrink her dick as he said, and people like you will continue to complain its too big until eventually it annoys him as it already has majority of people in this thread.

Knight_of_the_lance isn't even talking about how popular big dick futa vs small dick futa is. Your tangent is incomprehensible (and mind you, I'm team Big Dick Futa). They are merely addressing that Lewtopia only reduced the size of Luna's dick (by 20% which is still going to be big) because they struggled to pose sex scenes with the original size. They did not cave to pressure, otherwise it would have been reduced by like 50+ percent.

 

[Knight_of_the_lance]

Thank you Rexermus for putting it in plain words. I would add to that, that what I want us to be is supportive of the different devs work and decision to help them grow and provide us with the content we crave for. They spend a lot of time on their work, more than many people spend on their regular day job so supporting the devs you like is something important.

In this particular case supporting the dev for me means making sure people don't attack the dev for a decision they made for themselves and not for the public. Especially if their end goal is to make the biggest dong possible look appealing and building a story around it. If in the mean time they must work with more "normal" sizes so be it. Attacking the dev for it is like taking a shot in your own foot, risking them leaving their gig because of a toxic environment, depriving yourself of potential future content that will be to your liking.

My own opinion has nothing to do with it. The more this small industry thrives, the more we will all benefit from it regardless of kink preferences.

 

[Tuatha Dé]

I hope isaac is avoidable/optional.

 

[B.W.H]

Any news about the next update?

 

[JaximusJaxer123]

Hello Lewtopia. I just came to play your new game. I honestly cannot wait for the next update, frankly i am hyped beyond anything. I am sorry to hear, that you've recieved a lot of criticism, concerneing Luna's character design. I personally found that, exactly this made her stand out a little, since this seems to be becoming a realistic type of world, that you try to implement into your game, with a little 'extra'. I liked the size and the 'struggle' she's going through, which seems not to be just 'bIgGuS DiCkUs' but, as seen in the entire demo, is something complementing further and deeper character design, I approve a lot.

I don't really know if this question is still up do date, because uh... 28 pages of comments is something I'd do for uni but not for ma' dick people, so I would be sorry if this comment is not appropiate anymore. In any way I just wanted to share my thoughts on the matter and - after all it is in fact YOUR game, that, besides the already stated has got a staggering 4 and 1/3 stars on just the demo. Keep it up mate!

 

[omfgmule]

Thank you Rexermus for putting it in plain words. I would add to that, that what I want us to be is supportive of the different devs work and decision to help them grow and provide us with the content we crave for. They spend a lot of time on their work, more than many people spend on their regular day job so supporting the devs you like is something important.

In this particular case supporting the dev for me means making sure people don't attack the dev for a decision they made for themselves and not for the public. Especially if their end goal is to make the biggest dong possible look appealing and building a story around it. If in the mean time they must work with more "normal" sizes so be it. Attacking the dev for it is like taking a shot in your own foot, risking them leaving their gig because of a toxic environment, depriving yourself of potential future content that will be to your liking.

My own opinion has nothing to do with it. The more this small industry thrives, the more we will all benefit from it regardless of kink preferences.

I agree, reading through this thread however to write like Jaximus, one crowd was certainly filled with "dickus too biigus needs shrink so I won't support"

 

[futa95]

Futanari x women is the truth of the world!
Those who say the dick is too big and needs to be reduced! They are all Jokers!
I think the size is just right! Keep making it according to your idea!

 

[Ethernetwork]

There is no nuance that saves the statement.

Good faith interpretation saves it, if you fail to see that I cannot help you.

 

[Kurultai]

Fantastic entry. Watched and looking forward to more.
Also what I really liked is the foreshadowing of Luna actually struggling with her libido overtaking her (the masturbation scene was really HOT!!!!). I think the dick size is actually a visual representation that actually supports this facet of her character, since its essentially an out of control force fighting her for control (at least in my mind). So yes, GREAT STUFF!

 

[dayli]

Lots of potential here, hope things go well. Also not reading all the comment but I really just hope the author lets themself make this how they want to, whatever direction that is. If they want to take feedback, good on them, if they want to do something that some people don't like, they should do that. I think you tend to get worse art when you try to make something you think will please everyone instead of just making what you want to make. That doesn't mean that input from people can't change your mind though, same goes in the opposite direction, if you don't have anyone to check you on what your doing you can tend to get out of hand. It's about balance with these things and I think I'll probably still enjoy this regardless of the dick size.

 

[Crown98]

Really promising so far! Liked everything.
I'll down to support with money but I'll wait for now since it's too early.
Need to see if it's gonna be abandoned or developed. There is always the risk sadly.

 

[Futa_Buddy]

I really hope this game doesn't get abandoned, so much potential... any news on when the first release is coming out?

 

[T.O.D.O.R.O.K.I ^~^]

I really hope this game doesn't get abandoned, so much potential... any news on when the first release is coming out?

You have to see their publications and updates page, it is in development, the next chapter is not abandoned.

 

[WzS]

He posted a WIP Render today.

You must be registered to see the links

Smoking hot grandma

 

[Futa_Buddy]

You have to see their publications and updates page, it is in development, the next chapter is not abandoned.

I thought you had to sub to his subscribestar to see those, my bad! Thanks dude!

Also a good nugget of info from the dev's most recent post (I bolded the important bit at the end): "Family immersion in the game is incredibly important to me (as I've probably mentioned before). Each character will have their unique qualities and play different roles in Luna's life. In these first few chapters, I want to establish Luna's individual relationships before moving toward more spicy and erotic moments. Of course, not everyone will get exactly the same treatment, but I'll carefully pace the game to balance storytelling with those exciting moments - no "blue balls" game here!"

 

[lemonsqueezie]

The renders are great, and the characters are all beautiful. A lot of people mention the dicksize, and I have to agree. It's on the ridiculous side. I mean, if you reduce it by 50%, it's pretty much Dredd size - which is more than enough imho.