VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

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Ottoeight

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bl00gs said:
just makeing sure iv had game wth multiple girls but only a few are main and othertimes theres been more than said as in this case , thanks for answering me
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My honest feeling is that playing a game is the only way of realising whether it is going to meet our tastes. Give it a try.
 
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Fyrwulf

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Okay, I'm in the prologue at the club. What the fuck was the developer thinking by making it so that you had to tap the stage lights to go find the girls? The only reason that I even found that was by random tapping. Like, there's dumb, and there's engineering. That was engineering.
 
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Fyrwulf said:
Okay, I'm in the prologue at the club. What the fuck was the developer thinking by making it so that you had to tap the stage lights to go find the girls? The only reason that I even found that was by random tapping. Like, there's dumb, and there's engineering. That was engineering.
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That is, in four years, the first time I've heard of that issue.

Thank you for bringing it so forcefully to my attention. :whistle:
 
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I've been puzzled on what "engineering" means in this context longer than I've been stuck at any point in this game. Aren't things being engineered good?
 
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Simpgor said:
I've been puzzled on what "engineering" means in this context longer than I've been stuck at any point in this game. Aren't things being engineered good?
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In this context...he means overly complicated for the sake of it being clever coding for the sake of it. Engineers (in terms of mechanical...because there is no such thing as just an engineer)...famously like to over-engineer machinary for the sake of it being fancy.

I didn't have a problem with it myself but whatever.
 
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I hate to be that guy, but I have to ask, is the harem possible? I don't see the tag that's why I ask and it's only because I don't have enough free time to repeat the game 5 times to see the content of each girl, (or the number of times equivalent to the number of heroines) I know it can't be seen all the content in a single run, but that does not rule out the harem ending and in reality I only bother to ask about the excellent reviews it has.
 
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Devitto673 said:
I hate to be that guy, but I have to ask, is the harem possible? I don't see the tag that's why I ask and it's only because I don't have enough free time to repeat the game 5 times to see the content of each girl, (or the number of times equivalent to the number of heroines) I know it can't be seen all the content in a single run, but that does not rule out the harem ending and in reality I only bother to ask about the excellent reviews it has.
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You have plenty of time, playthrough a path. Then playthrough using skip. its easy
 
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ename144 said:
I think it's simpler than that: Felicia just likes sex. As long as the challenges involve sex or sexuality, Felicia can roll with the punches like a champ; as soon as the activities move to something more mundane, she loses interest and becomes far more fragile. Unfortunately for her, Kathleen's the one running the show and Kathleen cares about suffering far more than she cares about sex. You can see this most clearly in the cattleprod game in Chapter 4 Update 2. Without the MC's help, all Felicia can focus on is the discomfort.
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It's only if the MC ignores Kat's order and reminds Felicia that there's still an audience who could be aroused by her performance that she manages to get her head back in the game.

In some ways I think it mirrors her reasons for becoming a Carnation in the first place. There are lots of ways a smart, attractive woman like Felicia could go about building a powerbase separate from her husband, but she chose to join an exclusive underground sex club because wholesale debauchery is what she sees as the perfect intersection of her skills and interests. She thought it would be right in her wheelhouse - and she might well have been right if August or Hana was calling the shots. With Kathleen at the helm, however, it's going to be a constant struggle not to lose her groove.
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se20299 said:
I feel like the cattleprod scene hits home to Felicia that the exibition isn't fun and games like she's thinking. As a hedonistic party slut, she probably did a lot of similar things to some games in the exibition, and her flippant approach to the game has probably rubbed Kat the wrong way, and we can expect Felicia's resolve to crumble as she realizes that the Competition isn't a sex vacation she expected. Hell, during her photoshoot, Edwin can get angry at her too for her dismisiveness towards the games, because in his eyes Felicia is taking everything his mother went through with glee and is asking for more, because the club is just a game to her. Until it isn't.

We're probably gona see Felicia get pushed more and more out of her comfort zone, and her prissy bitch exterior is going to crumble more and more as she gets progressively more humiliated, and not in a sexy was like she has come to expect.
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I need to add a bit more here. I was JUST re-playing the Week 1 game with Felicia and Rosalind doing the pole deed. Felicia's tolerance is LOW. What comes out of this is that she's not into the high tolerance for pain and we were being warned that it's a flaw with her. As ename points out, she can focus on the pain and discomfort, but the more she goes through this, the more there's a chance she realizes her own capabilities outside of putting on this front and needing the club.

And yes, Edwin can get angry on her but the opposite scene is the one with the art where she explains her motivation in the first place. Even within the club, she Rosalind yells at her after the game's over for wanting to be a part of this and Felicia really wants to spill the beans but merely states how there's more to it. The only thing I'd caution is that Felicia really cares about her social status. "Nephew" Edwin learned this from how the Matron brought out the poverty card just for being underdressed while Felicia is constantly helping Mina at the talent agency as explained. She's a social climber, that's true. But the REAL thing Felicia could do is start her own company (Entourage or Jerry Maguire is a great reference), become a painter (though that's a hobby and art in current day is a FAR different beast to the days of Norman Rockwell), or use her skills in a far more productive way than the cathouse she's in "for fun". From what I'm seeing of her, I don't think it's for fun, but that's her first defense mechanism.

Just like she hides her Southern Belle charm, everything with Felicia is hidden in layers and depths that really need to be put to the surface. Overall, I usually feel that with Felicia, the suppression is what's unhealthy. For the player, it's more about getting Felicia to realize that she can do so much more with what she has and climb to heights she never thought possible.
 
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