Unfortunately if one wasn't interested in Veronica in the beginning, meaning, their Edwin wasn't kissing up to her at every opportunity, it's quite likely to never qualify for her route and those latest updates are basically something you won't see and so they won't change one's mind.
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You don't need to "kiss up to" Veronica to earn points with her; empty flattery is actually rather unproductive. You just need to treat Veronica like a peer rather than a sex toy. Anyone who isn't willing to do that probably wouldn't be interested in Veronica's path in the first place.
If anything I'd say it's Felicia who's early path might exclude a potential playerbase. Her initial interactions are laser focused on sex, but if you turn her down in Chapter 1 you'll never get to see her surprisingly tender romantic side later on.
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You mainly need to treat her like a human being...
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felicia is full of surprises and keeps subverting what you assume about her
she reminds of the "i am dude playing a dude who is another dude scene" from tropic thunder
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i thought assumed that the MC has atleast few scene with all 3 girls by default is it not the case ?
i missed that interaction i should go back and check
My MC simply pushed back once or twice on her aggression towards him, and didn't seek all opportunities to interact with her -- did the early interview with another girl and during the gym session didn't interrupt Veronica's session with Mina. This was enough to miss out on points needed to comfort her in the shower and to be all-buddies later because surprise, surprise, Veronica is one of these blowhard wanna-be doms who is eager to step on everyone around her but absolutely cannot take what she is dishing out, and you'll either lose points with her (or not gain them) if you don't prostrate yourself before her.
So, no. Treating Veronica merely like a peer will get you nowhere because she doesn't view Edwin as a peer early on.
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i mean, case in point:
* when asked to pick a girl who looks the best in uniform actually dare to pick a girl you think looks best: lose out on 2-3 points, even if you weren't "a pig about it"
* don't pick Veronica for interview: miss out on 5 points
* bring Mina to the gym: you can get at most 2-4 points with Veronica (4 if you interrupt her and Mina getting along) unless MC is a social chameleon, vs 6 if you visit alone
* actually refrain from telling Veronica you've been ogling her and from some empty flattery: miss out on couple points during the photo session.
* don't take her up on her offer to have sex: miss out on 3-4 points
But yeah, sure, those are all because "you treated Veronica like a sex toy". Or maybe it's simply because you start at 5 points with Veronica (the lowest of all, others start at 8) and need to get 17 more points with her quickly to be able to do the one gesture which determines whether Edwin becomes friends with her or not, and those points with her aren't exactly frequent to come by.
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I am only at the part of the game where I am doing Felicia's photoshoot so I still have a while to go but so far I don't like or care much about Veronica. I am still on her path but I don't much care for her. I want to help her with her gym situation if possible but beyond that I'd rather see more Rosalind or Felicia or even Katherine content(lol) than Veronica.
I wished this game has more intersection between routes, but I doubt it will given how you can't change your mind on past decisions. For example, I now want to help Veronica as I interact with her more but the game doesn't give an option to change your mind and start helping. I do hope we get to see darker content for the MC though, I am trying to play him as someone who gets slowly corrupted by the place. In fact I am hoping we get some rape content, and then having the option to realize what a monster he has become.
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You think they will risk that for a rape scene? Be serious.
Edwin with high asshole counter can sort of approach this already, with the way he threatens and effectively blackmails Lucy into letting him have his way with her during the outing with Felicia. I don't think it'll get much more blatant than that, but there's already some pretty rapey undertones in the game as it is, and it won't surprise me if things skirt closer to that line.
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"+5 She's impressed by your medical skills". Where does this happen? I don't see any +5 for Veronica in the game walkthrough.
Also, when i was talking about prostrating yourself it was in the context of never talking back to her like she's your equal (i.e. giving her the same contemptuous attitude she's giving you) or to make a snarky/negative remark about her. Because that loses you points or at the very least doesn't gain you any. Which, if you don't go out of your way to spend extra time with her, is something you can't really afford.
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Hey, if people can't stand the idea it's possible to miss out on Veronica's route while not "treating her like a sex toy", if you play the game blind rather than follow a walkthrough, and it somehow rustles their jimmies... it's not my problem.
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i think it happens when you go to gym alone and one of her clients has some sort of ligment tearing and the MC uses his anatomical knowledge to diagnose the problem
Oh yeah, that makes sense. I thought that was +6 for some reason. Ironically, i've decided to bring Mina along in my game because i thought it'd make Veronica more at ease, that it'd benefit her more to get 2 customers instead of 1, and also because it simply made sense, with Mina mentioning she was looking for a new gym. Totally treating Veronica like a sex toy, there.
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No, there isn't because they still have agency and choice..
Technically a person who gets blackmailed or otherwise forced with a threat into sex also had "choice" to pick the alternative, but legally (and commonly) that still qualifies as non-consensual act and a rape.
Oh yeah there is that blackmail scene, forgot about it but yeah rape doesn't have to be done solely through force. I hope to see more like as I slowly have my character walk off the deep end as he tries to balance being a "good" person, indulging, and not pissing his boss off.
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The whole game's scenario itself is intrinsically skeevy, but it is built on the notion of consent and taking advantage what is quote unquote freely given. Lucy is prostituting herself willingly, full stop. The only leverage the player (and the club) have over her is her selfish desires. In that example, Edwin is certainly taking advantage and abusing his position, but to call it effectively blackmail is off the mark I think.
It's more like workplace sexual harassment. Quid pro quo. :kappa:
Of course, there's a lot fucked up on multiple levels about the entire situation. Using sex to get your son an unfair advantage over other students, the people exploiting that for profit and pleasure, and the whole prostitution ring business in the first place. Even if it's not blackmail, you can't argue it's morally defensible, but Lucy very much can say fuck this.
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Blyad, Are you talking about some whore being "raped"? this concept does not apply to.