VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

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ename144

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TD1900 said:
Honestly, I'm on the lookout for just half a good reason to do one. The problem is it's so unnecessary when you consider how many flashbacks already get shoved down the player's throat. If the flashbacks were a little more sparse, I could see suddenly being given the full picture as being impactful, but we've already seen Victoria tonguing a fat Samoan guy's asshole. There are some ways I could see it serving a purpose beyond "this is hot" (which alone is the best reason to do anything in a porn game), but those character beats might get accomplished in more elegant ways by that point.

But hey, I was on the lookout to justify a more extended Alice scene and lo' and behold, I found one. So finger's crossed. :KEK:

EDIT: I always liked how some of the Taimanin games had additional scenes not-quite-connected to the story in the gallery. Like the training diaries in the Yukikaze games and Oboro getting railed on tape in Zero. That's something I always thought would be a cool way to do Victoria's tapes, but the reality is there's just two of us and we can't really justify spending development time on something like that.
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I for one very much appreciate your restraint. I mean, if you did add a full scene for Victoria I'm sure it would be hot, but I'd much rather it be plot relevant.

That said, if I happen to think of a good angle to add the scene I promise I'll pass it along.
 
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GIL3D said:
While some of the early work still holds up to some extent, some scenes served as unfortunate trials for mistakes I later learned from and deeply regret. Plus, several game-changing mods have been released in the last year and a half that I really wish I had when we started. All that to say, God I wish I could go back and redo at least the first two chapters of the game, but the story must move forward and TD keeps me busy enough so... that's gonna have to wait.
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TD1900 said:
Honestly, I'm on the lookout for just half a good reason to do one. The problem is it's so unnecessary when you consider how many flashbacks already get shoved down the player's throat. If the flashbacks were a little more sparse, I could see suddenly being given the full picture as being impactful, but we've already seen Victoria tonguing a fat Samoan guy's asshole. There are some ways I could see it serving a purpose beyond "this is hot" (which alone is the best reason to do anything in a porn game), but those character beats might get accomplished in more elegant ways by that point.

But hey, I was on the lookout to justify a more extended Alice scene and lo' and behold, I found one. So finger's crossed. :KEK:

EDIT: I always liked how some of the Taimanin games had additional scenes not-quite-connected to the story in the gallery. Like the training diaries in the Yukikaze games and Oboro getting railed on tape in Zero. That's something I always thought would be a cool way to do Victoria's tapes, but the reality is there's just two of us and we can't really justify spending development time on something like that.
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Two words for you: Unpaid Internship...
Think of how good it would look on some young buck's resume to have apprenticed under the GIL at none other than Mutt & Jeff Corp.
 
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TD1900 said:
Honestly, I'm on the lookout for just half a good reason to do one. The problem is it's so unnecessary when you consider how many flashbacks already get shoved down the player's throat. If the flashbacks were a little more sparse, I could see suddenly being given the full picture as being impactful, but we've already seen Victoria tonguing a fat Samoan guy's asshole. There are some ways I could see it serving a purpose beyond "this is hot" (which alone is the best reason to do anything in a porn game), but those character beats might get accomplished in more elegant ways by that point.

But hey, I was on the lookout to justify a more extended Alice scene and lo' and behold, I found one. So finger's crossed. :KEK:

EDIT: I always liked how some of the Taimanin games had additional scenes not-quite-connected to the story in the gallery. Like the training diaries in the Yukikaze games and Oboro getting railed on tape in Zero. That's something I always thought would be a cool way to do Victoria's tapes, but the reality is there's just two of us and we can't really justify spending development time on something like that.
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Hey, you know best. The idea of seeing a full tape of Vicky getting gangbanged just tickled my fancy. I know the development time's tight, and the main girls are more important, so it might be for the best to leave it for post game content. I'm kinda biased because Victoria is my favorite girl, as you probably can tell by my posts, despite her little screentime. I really hope we see more of Vicky in the next update, I'd be happy as long as we get another flashback of Ms Turner getting her holes reamed out.:devilish: Thanks for all your hard work.
 
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Uryzell

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Hi guys, I remember playing this game once, and apparently from what I saw, Mc's mother was involved in some pretty heavy stuff, and that made me drop the game, apart from Mc's friend's advances on his mother, and Since this isn't for me, I dropped it before seeing the conclusion, I wanted to know if there really is NTR or if the things about MC's mother were confirmed, if so I stay away from this game, could you clarify that for me? and don't be afraid to give me spoilers, thank you in advance.
 
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Uryzell said:
Hi guys, I remember playing this game once, and apparently from what I saw, Mc's mother was involved in some pretty heavy stuff, and that made me drop the game, apart from Mc's friend's advances on his mother, and Since this isn't for me, I dropped it before seeing the conclusion, I wanted to know if there really is NTR or if the things about MC's mother were confirmed, if so I stay away from this game, could you clarify that for me? and don't be afraid to give me spoilers, thank you in advance.
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You sound like you wouldn't like this game
 
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Uryzell said:
Hi guys, I remember playing this game once, and apparently from what I saw, Mc's mother was involved in some pretty heavy stuff, and that made me drop the game, apart from Mc's friend's advances on his mother, and Since this isn't for me, I dropped it before seeing the conclusion, I wanted to know if there really is NTR or if the things about MC's mother were confirmed, if so I stay away from this game, could you clarify that for me? and don't be afraid to give me spoilers, thank you in advance.
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There are female characters, some who are major characters, who have sex and do sexual things with characters other than the MC. If you define them as Love Interests, then I suppose you might feel jealous and call it NTR. The mother (Victoria) is not and will not be a LI, and you'll notice there's no Incest tag here. The MC's friend (Ian) seems to respect and love Victoria like a mother, but the debate, and hope for some readers, is that it might develop into something romantic or sexual, but that remains to be seen and is unlikely. So if the mother's past as a porn actress creates angst in you, like NTR might, and that's something you don't want to experience, then you probably should move on. As Idontplay said, it's not actually NTR, but some people have expansive definitions of NTR. dolfe67 is probably right, but it's a great game if you can convince yourself that vanilla incest harem isn't the only type of enjoyable AVN.
 
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Bill Temple said:
There are female characters, some who are major characters, who have sex and do sexual things with characters other than the MC. If you define them as Love Interests, then I suppose you might feel jealous and call it NTR. The mother (Victoria) is not and will not be a LI, and you'll notice there's no Incest tag here. The MC's friend (Ian) seems to respect and love Victoria like a mother, but the debate, and hope for some readers, is that it might develop into something romantic or sexual, but that remains to be seen and is unlikely. So if the mother's past as a porn actress creates angst in you, like NTR might, and that's something you don't want to experience, then you probably should move on. As Idontplay said, it's not actually NTR, but some people have expansive definitions of NTR. dolfe67 is probably right, but it's a great game if you can convince yourself that vanilla incest harem isn't the only type of enjoyable AVN.
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I thank you for answering and explaining things, I definitely don't consider myself a vanilla guy, but there are certain things that I overlook, due to life's traumas, I thank you for explaining this to me, saving me from heartbreak when I go looking for fun , thank you very much, and may you all have a good game.
 
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Uryzell said:
Hi guys, I remember playing this game once, and apparently from what I saw, Mc's mother was involved in some pretty heavy stuff, and that made me drop the game, apart from Mc's friend's advances on his mother, and Since this isn't for me, I dropped it before seeing the conclusion, I wanted to know if there really is NTR or if the things about MC's mother were confirmed, if so I stay away from this game, could you clarify that for me? and don't be afraid to give me spoilers, thank you in advance.
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I just recently played this for the first time Only thing I can see someone consider NTR is the club stuff with of the 3 main girls that work in the club. Even then idk if would call it NTR since the only scenes they they don't do with the MC is during the main shows and prep for the next show the club puts on as part of the story however the MC is present and watching. So if you consider them a LI id say it's more like sharing than NTR. Since that is part of the plot I don't even know if I would call them a LI since 2 of them are married. In regards to the mother that's just flashbacks when she did porn. I doubt she would become a LI or side girl in the future.
 
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BluexRexy

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From what i have read now mc mother doesnt have scenes with him just flashbacks is this correct? I had this game on my radar for a long time but i have limited space. Is it worth the download now in your opinion?
 
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BluexRexy said:
From what i have read now mc mother doesnt have scenes with him just flashbacks is this correct? I had this game on my radar for a long time but i have limited space. Is it worth the download now in your opinion?
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The flashbacks of his mom are the MC watching porn of his mom he found she made when he was younger. and Yes i think it's worth it really good characters when not dealing with the club stuff
 
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