VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[ename144]

Maybe a short question to TD1900 : The last update teases further scenes on Rose's deal route and the game also mentions she might only be at Edwin's appartment for 2-3 days. Will Edwin make use of their deal in the next update already?

Thanks a lot.

We won't know for a few more weeks. My guess - and it is purely a guess on my part - is that Rosalind will have a scene during the day (before Felicia's date) but the scene will change depending on our previous choices. If the MC arranged a threesome with Ian to clear her debts, the scene will include Ian. If not, it will be a solo scene with Rose and the MC (assuming we're on her path, of course).

We know the update has a near-record number of animations, so it seems plausible there could be some big variants to the scenes we get. But again, that's just a guess. I would be very surprised, however, if the MC doesn't do *something* with Rosalind in the new update.

 

[Randomguy3478]

Well...that could be in the cards as well, I guess, but I doubt TD will tell you before the release.

We won't know for a few more weeks. My guess - and it is purely a guess on my part - is that Rosalind will have a scene during the day (before Felicia's date) but the scene will change depending on our previous choices. If the MC arranged a threesome with Ian to clear her debts, the scene will include Ian. If not, it will be a solo scene with Rose and the MC (assuming we're on her path, of course).

We know the update has a near-record number of animations, so it seems plausible there could be some big variants to the scenes we get. But again, that's just a guess. I would be very surprised, however, if the MC doesn't do *something* with Rosalind in the new update.

Oh, I thought it would be clear already beforehand which girl will have scenes. Only was able to read some of the devlogs and felicia date was mentioned. Well, surprise it will be then. Would enjoy if your guesses are correct, ename.

Thanks a lot you two.

 

[Takkatakka]

Oh, I thought it would be clear already beforehand which girl will have scenes. Only was able to read some of the devlogs and felicia date was mentioned. Well, surprise it will be then. Would enjoy if your guesses are correct, ename.

Thanks a lot you two.

Well, TD wrote this a while ago:

Anyone on Team Felicia or who enjoys exploring outcomes of player choices should be especially happy. Felicia's art exhibition has shaped up similarly to the club date with Mina and Ian in the prologue, where small scenes branch off into other small scenes that have immediate and obvious differences within a scope of a single update and the night caps off with two heavily distinct outcomes. I think that's more satisfying than when you make a choice two updates ago that you probably forgot you even made it, and then you just miss content later on. Although there is also some of that this update, so a bit of both.

That said, four out of five of the game's heroines have scenes this update, so I don't expect anyone will be complaining on that front, although I'm sure we'll get one or two people who see none of that and wonder what the fuck we're doing with our time.

So, conventional wisdom would dictate, that the one girl without a scene will likely by Veronica since we haven't seen her much (or at all?) in the sneak peaks either and of course her scene was the centerpiece of the last update anyway.

So the question is, if there are two scenes with Rosa depending on the choices. Then there will obviously be a Felicia scene and Mina asked to "watch" them...so who knows how that might go...TD sure wrote a lot about GIL's challenges to have three moving bodies in the same scene in past dev blogs, if you catch my drift.

And I think Hana told the MC that she would blow him the next time they meet, regardless of where they meet...so...

Yeah, make your own conclusions from here on out...or just wait a two to three weeks for the update to come out.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Well, TD wrote this a while ago:



So, conventional wisdom would dictate, that the one girl without a scene will likely by Veronica since we haven't seen her much (or at all?) in the sneak peaks either and of course her scene was the centerpiece of the last update anyway.

So the question is, if there are two scenes with Rosa depending on the choices. Then there will obviously be a Felicia scene and Mina asked to "watch" them...so who knows how that might go...TD sure wrote a lot about GIL's challenges to have three moving bodies in the same scene in past dev blogs, if you catch my drift.

And I think Hana told the MC that she would blow him the next time they meet, regardless of where they meet...so...

Yeah, make your own conclusions from here on out...or just wait a two to three weeks for the update to come out.

I'm thinking the "three moving bodies" likely refers to the rosalind threesome since from an animation standpoint mmf is a helluva lot more work than mff (unless the other girl is AGGRESSIVELY riding his face )

 

[Takkatakka]

I'm thinking the "three moving bodies" likely refers to the rosalind threesome since from an animation standpoint mmf is a helluva lot more work than mff (unless the other girl is AGGRESSIVELY riding his face )

Yes, that is why we were talking about that one already earlier.

Still...I mean...Mina will only watch? Come on...

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Yes, that is why we were talking about that one already earlier.

Still...I mean...Mina will only watch? Come on...

wait, I'm confused - when you said

Then there will obviously be a Felicia scene and Mina asked to "watch" them...so who knows how that might go...TD sure wrote a lot about GIL's challenges to have three moving bodies in the same scene in past dev blogs, if you catch my drift

I thought you were talking about a MC-felicia-mina threesome no?

 

[Takkatakka]

wait, I'm confused - when you said I thought you were talking about a MC-felicia-mina threesome no?

Yes, but before we already mentioned the other one...I simply think there will be...

 

[BlenderGuy]

I am about to replay this absolute classic, but with the intention of being a real piece of shit to all women involved.
I'm assuming it won't do me much good and probably close paths.
I just want to experience the game as a bigger asshole than the MC's best friend.

 

[Randomguy3478]

I am about to replay this absolute classic, but with the intention of being a real piece of shit to all women involved.
I'm assuming it won't do me much good and probably close paths.
I just want to experience the game as a bigger asshole than the MC's best friend.

Remember to apologize to rose after using her mouth in the very first scene - otherwise you will be locked out completely from her route which imo is the only satisfying main girl if you go for darkness.

And yeah, you basically only get to see the club stuff iirc - which percentage wise gets less and less the longer the game goes on. Look forward to play 10% of updates and without any action.

Been there.

 

[Randomguy3478]

Well, TD wrote this a while ago:



So, conventional wisdom would dictate, that the one girl without a scene will likely by Veronica since we haven't seen her much (or at all?) in the sneak peaks either and of course her scene was the centerpiece of the last update anyway.

So the question is, if there are two scenes with Rosa depending on the choices. Then there will obviously be a Felicia scene and Mina asked to "watch" them...so who knows how that might go...TD sure wrote a lot about GIL's challenges to have three moving bodies in the same scene in past dev blogs, if you catch my drift.

And I think Hana told the MC that she would blow him the next time they meet, regardless of where they meet...so...

Yeah, make your own conclusions from here on out...or just wait a two to three weeks for the update to come out.

Man, I actually read that back then - but my snail brain memory forgot already. Sounds good.

 

[Bill Temple]

Remember to apologize to rose after using her mouth in the very first scene - otherwise you will be locked out completely from her route which imo is the only satisfying main girl if you go for darkness.

And yeah, you basically only get to see the club stuff iirc - which percentage wise gets less and less the longer the game goes on. Look forward to play 10% of updates and without any action.

Been there.

Exactly. The moral of PC is: You can only be a total jerkwad most of the time if you're stupid fucking rich, and even 0.01-percenters have to take their feet off the peasants' necks sometimes.

 

[Panzercat39]

Exactly. The moral of PC is: You can only be a total jerkwad most of the time if you're stupid fucking rich, and even 0.01-percenters have to take their feet off the peasants' necks sometimes.
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Yeah,I totally went full asshole in first playthrough,found myself more in line with Mrs.Kathleen's morals,was a bit of an oversight.

 

[BlenderGuy]

Remember to apologize to rose after using her mouth in the very first scene - otherwise you will be locked out completely from her route which imo is the only satisfying main girl if you go for darkness.

And yeah, you basically only get to see the club stuff iirc - which percentage wise gets less and less the longer the game goes on. Look forward to play 10% of updates and without any action.

Been there.

Yea, I already noticed it's extremely restrictive as a route. Not sure I'll continue you till the end.

 

[Randomguy3478]

Exactly. The moral of PC is: You can only be a total jerkwad most of the time if you're stupid fucking rich, and even 0.01-percenters have to take their feet off the peasants' necks sometimes.
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*Genghis Khan enters the chat*


That's what I play games for? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Bringing reality into AVNs... making AVNs about reality... I don't know. Being a good person is satisfying enough IRL. No need for AVNs about that really imo. Just step out of the door and . kek


If reality should ever enter the game then please in the form of Edwins balls immediately falling off when he climbs on that pussy seat of Hana's motorcycle.

 

[TD1900]

Maybe a short question to TD1900 : The last update teases further scenes on Rose's deal route and the game also mentions she might only be at Edwin's appartment for 2-3 days. Will Edwin make use of their deal in the next update already?

Thanks a lot.

As has been speculated:

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Which, by the way, I'm glad you enjoyed the HJ scene. It was an unfortunately last minute pittance we squeezed into that update that, so it's appreciated to hear that the vibes landed with someone.

Exactly. The moral of PC is: You can only be a total jerkwad most of the time if you're stupid fucking rich, and even 0.01-percenters have to take their feet off the peasants' necks sometimes.
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Actually, the lesson there is: Rose a snakey bitch.

 

[ImSenjou]

I finally finished my best gameplay, it's not perfect, but close.

Someone who I unknowingly ignored in other gameplays, but was at the top of my list this time, was Sophia, I don't know how I could ignore her before, to be honest, I barely remembered her, but she's already my new favorite.

I still like Hana and Mina, maybe because I paid so much attention to them before, this time I paid more attention to the others, like Felicia, for example, I have the impression that she really likes the MC, and felt a little jealous when she heard about MC and Mina, as if she really liked him, but for him, she's just another one… maybe I'm thinking too much, but that's the impression I got.

Another one that I really like, but I will always have doubts about, is Rose, in this gameplay I ignored Veronica to stay at home with Rose, it was good, but those faces she shows at the end, give me even more doubts about her, I don't really know what to think.
I believe that she likes spending time with the MC, but doesn't want him to like her too much, perhaps she would prefer him to just use her, or, she is the one using him!

As I have doubts about Rose, I would like to read other opinions about her.

 

[Ottoeight]

As every novel is, Pale Carnation is a fiction. A very well written fiction, but a fiction nonetheless.

If it were reality, our pal Edwin would be a serial murderer of prostitutes by now.

 

[Randomguy3478]

As has been speculated:

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Which, by the way, I'm glad you enjoyed the HJ scene. It was an unfortunately last minute pittance we squeezed into that update that, so it's appreciated to hear that the vibes landed with someone.




Actually, the lesson there is: Rose a snakey bitch.

Mostly hoped for 1on1 content with rose just because I'd guess the tone of the MMF will change compared to the handjob - but I'm a big fan of Ian, probably my favourite character of all, so I'm looking forward to that.

Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.

PS: As I may have your attention: The feminist writing makes me so goddamn salty!!
But that long cooking steam off my chest: quality-wise, regardless if H-scene or not, its imo the only western AVN with writing on the level of good jap Eroges. Arousing, funny, serious and enjoyable af. Thanks for all the effort of both you and GIL. Much <3

 

[Takkatakka]

The feminist writing makes me so goddamn salty!!

The feminist writing in the game with the sex club in which women get mercilessly exploited for entertainment and money?

 

[Randomguy3478]

The feminist writing in the game with the sex club in which women get mercilessly exploited for entertainment and money?

*where the women choose to get mercilessly exploited for entertainment and money.

The devil is in the detail!