VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[ffive]

Pfft, as revenge movies go, Kill Bill is a fucking dumpster fire.

 

[Idontplay]

Harmonica!

 

[OptimusCrime]

If you’re worried about the whole cheating on the mc thing I guess the safest bet is Hana. But k don’t know if I’m misremember she does have “cheated on Hana” points. I’m going to take a crazy leap here in that if you keep cheating on her don’t be surprised if it doesn’t work out for you down that road.

 

[TD1900]

I don't think the rule "if you have to ask then, (some variation similar to-) you probably won't enjoy it" really applies in every scenario. The thing I struggle with the most are two things, getting to know and love a character that dies or get seriously wounded later on, or getting to know and love a character that is raped or goes behind the mc's back. The attack being the surprise factor in this case. It's very different if these things start happening from the start of the game when you haven't bonded with them yet.

Maybe I can be unfairly glib when it comes to questions of that nature. It's wholly reasonable not to want to be bummed out by a porn game and there's nothing wrong with making a quick forum post to prevent investing your limited time into something you won't enjoy. I totally get not wanting to spend 70 hours reading of a slice-of-life story only to find out the bitch dies of cancer at the end and you're now a single dad. I mostly avoided anything with the nakage tag on VNDB for what I suspect is a similar reason as you.

But as an aside, just generally speaking... I dunno. I feel like you get more out of stories when you just roll the dice with them. Sure, often a character biting it is cheap and sours you on the experience, but other times it resonates in a cathartic way.

In my example above, knowing ahead of time just caused me to prejudge an experience. People love the game I referenced, so much so they made a fucking anime about it, but in a vacuum without any context of course I don't want to be sad. Yet there's been plenty of games where an unexpected development had me blubbering like a baby and I came away feeling good about it. Maybe I would've enjoyed that one.

Anyway, I'm just rambling here because the subject's close to heart. Provided you're in the right head space for it, I think one of the magical things about fiction is that it allows you to experience negative things in a safe environment. Machete weilding killers, war tragedies, and even having a ho-ass girlfriend.

Idk, I like kill bill. I don't think anyone shot better than that.

Funny that's coming up in relation here, because Tarantino homage'd the hell out of Kill Bill. One of the bigger influences in Kill Bill Vol. 1 was another Meiko Kaji movie, Lady Snow Blood. The ending duel with O-Ren kinda mirrors the opening of that movie and it even uses the song Flower of Carnage (sung by Kaji) for the ending.

 

[ffive]

I totally get not wanting to spend 70 hours reading of a slice-of-life story only to find out the bitch dies of cancer at the end and you're now a single dad.

Ehh, that's just a hook for inevitable father-daughter incest sequel.

 

[Ass prefer]

Maybe I can be unfairly glib when it comes to questions of that nature. It's wholly reasonable not to want to be bummed out by a porn game and there's nothing wrong with making a quick forum post to prevent investing your limited time into something you won't enjoy. I totally get not wanting to spend 70 hours reading of a slice-of-life story only to find out the bitch dies of cancer at the end and you're now a single dad. I mostly avoided anything with the nakage tag on VNDB for what I suspect is a similar reason as you.

But as an aside, just generally speaking... I dunno. I feel like you get more out of stories when you just roll the dice with them. Sure, often a character biting it is cheap and sours you on the experience, but other times it resonates in a cathartic way.

In my example above, knowing ahead of time just caused me to prejudge an experience. People love the game I referenced, so much so they made a fucking anime about it, but in a vacuum without any context of course I don't want to be sad. Yet there's been plenty of games where an unexpected development had me blubbering like a baby and I came away feeling good about it. Maybe I would've enjoyed that one.

Anyway, I'm just rambling here because the subject's close to heart. Provided you're in the right head space for it, I think one of the magical things about fiction is that it allows you to experience negative things in a safe environment. Machete weilding killers, war tragedies, and even having a ho-ass girlfriend.





Funny that's coming up in relation here, because Tarantino homage'd the hell out of Kill Bill. One of the bigger influences in Kill Bill Vol. 1 was another Meiko Kaji movie, Lady Snow Blood. The ending duel with O-Ren kinda mirrors the opening of that movie and it even uses the song Flower of Carnage (sung by Kaji) for the ending.

So, what's so special about your favorite female prisoner movie?

 

[TD1900]

Ehh, that's just a hook for inevitable father-daughter incest sequel.

Looking at you Bunny Drop. What the fuck.

So, what's so special about your favorite female prisoner movie?

For the first two entries especially, it's a blend of my tastes. It takes a cheap exploitative premise ( a women in prison/ rape-revenge story), but executes it with an experimental flair that elevates the whole thing. Most importantly, it does that while being entertaining.

Plus, Kaji's inscrutable stare. It does something to me.
No other actress does more with their eyes in my opinion.

 

[Ass prefer]

Looking at you Bunny Drop. What the fuck.



For the first two entries especially, it's a blend of my tastes. It takes a cheap exploitative premise ( a women in prison/ rape-revenge story), but executes it with an experimental flair that elevates the whole thing. Most importantly, it does that while being entertaining.

Plus, Kaji's inscrutable stare. It does something to me.
No other actress does more with their eyes in my opinion.

"Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder"
I get that. Thanks.

 

[Demon_Emperor]

i am so exited in the next part for Felecia or wait Mrs.Ford in the Auction. I bet her husband knew it well before.

 

[Ottoeight]

I played through one game that made me block a tag because the content destroyed me. The mc and his sister were kidnapped and treated horribly, a lot of seriously disturbing tags in that one.

Which game is it?

A lot to break down here. I always play with walkthrough on, I always prefer being supportive and kind, but at the same time I tend to see the alternatives due to lack of self control, which also makes it difficult to just skip scenes as I want to read through everything on the route I've chosen.

While I'm not necessarily into bdsm and some of the rougher tags, I do say I have a bit of an iron stomach when it comes to certain things some find really disturbing. I can for example handle extreme photographic gore that any news channel would censor. So it's a bit of a gamble if I can handle this game or not.

Just play by making our MC Edwin being supportive of people around him and you won't be disappointed. Trust me.

 

[Turret]

That's Meiko Kaji, a Japanese actress from the movie Female Prisoner #701 : Scorpion.

Meiko Kaji is also a rather well known Enka singer, just hopp on youtube or your favourite other video/music site. By the way, one of her most famous songs is "Flower of carnage", some might know this song.
With TD an obvious fan of her I theorise we might find several nods to her movies and songs in PC, if we look for them. I would not be surprised if some storypaths are influenced by this.

Plus, Kaji's inscrutable stare.

For Meiko´s stare...
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[Idontplay]

Which game is it?

By the description I suppose White Cube, but I did never play it, so I might be wrong.

 

[VoidExile]

I totally get not wanting to spend 70 hours reading of a slice-of-life story only to find out the bitch dies of cancer at the end and you're now a single dad.

I was personally reminded of Emma's solo ending from My Bully Is My Lover with this. I think people just don't want to be reminded of death while living through the mc's story. There is nothing happy about death, it only brings sadness. It's better if the story cuts off without a hint of death. The only exception is if you are intending to train people for that inevitability and even then, it should still be their choice if they want to be trained or face it when it comes.

 

[VoidExile]

Which game is it?

Decided to search it up again. I have it blocked but I remembered mistress being in the title. It's called: Kidnapped by the Mistress

Just play by making our MC Edwin being supportive of people around him and you won't be disappointed. Trust me.

Every time I play a game by following an evil route, I just feel bad. The thrill doesn't really outweigh pure love and companionship. Even being supportive, some games will still find a way to make you feel horrible just through a single action.

 

[Garen]

Can Edwin himself become a whore in a club?

He's the biggest whore

 

[Ottoeight]

Every time I play a game by following an evil route, I just feel bad. The thrill doesn't really outweigh pure love and companionship. Even being supportive, some games will still find a way to make you feel horrible just through a single action.

There aren't evil and good routes. Everything's grey area in this game: some is dark grey area, some is light grey area.

Anyway, you do you.

 

[d5aqoep]

So anyone else not feel intimidated by Kathleen? I cannot take her seriously after that readhead bodybuilder did her on the stage. Whenever the MC says Evil Bitch with regards to Kathleen, I chuckle a lot.

 

[Ottoeight]

So anyone else not feel intimidated by Kathleen? I cannot take her seriously after that readhead bodybuilder did her on the stage. Whenever the MC says Evil Bitch with regards to Kathleen, I chuckle a lot.

Move forward with the story and you'll see.

 

[Takkatakka]

There aren't evil and good routes. Everything's grey area in this game: some is dark grey area, some is light grey area.

Anyway, you do you.

Weeell...at least so far it kinda makes the difference between making a shitty situation for the Carnations either at least somewhat better or stomp on them while they're down even more.

So while no path is really "good"...I mean...the really good path for Edwin would've been to not take Chuck's dubious offer, I guess...but then you wouldn't have a game...there certainly is a difference between being an ass and try to act at least somewhat decent.

 

[d5aqoep]

Move forward with the story and you'll see.

Completed the current version and my opinion remains unchanged.

Anyone guess what the final challenge would be?

Maybe the first carnation to get preg with MC's child is the winner. The game is heading in that direction with it's absurdity.