Elduriel

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Good Luck with that... if you think it's worth the effort.

Btw, did I tell you that you guys just gotta stop using mods?
URM never breaks saves like other mods can, it doesn't modify any game files. If the player fucks with variables and they don't know what they do and that breaks the saves, that's on them.
 
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URM never breaks saves like other mods can, it doesn't modify any game files. If the player fucks with variables and they don't know what they do and that breaks the saves, that's on them.
Now my question is: why a mod? why do you think you need it?
 

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Now my question is: why a mod? why do you think you need it?
oof where to start. You have games like BaDIK. Fucking endless freeroams and minigames. Sancho's mod made all that infinitely more manageable. Then you have devs that make games with asshole ambiguous choices where you literally can't tell what they do. Now do I make a save at literally every one, or do I rely on a mod/check the code with URM? I'll choose the second option every time. You have grindy games, where I might like the story, but not the grindy part, bam, cheat mod to take away the grind.
 

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Anyone knows if the next uptade will be Ch.4 Up.6 or Ch.5? I'm w8ting the end of chapter 4 to play all new content together. Thanks in advance.
 

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oof where to start. You have games like BaDIK. Fucking endless freeroams and minigames. Sancho's mod made all that infinitely more manageable. Then you have devs that make games with asshole ambiguous choices where you literally can't tell what they do. Now do I make a save at literally every one, or do I rely on a mod/check the code with URM? I'll choose the second option every time. You have grindy games, where I might like the story, but not the grindy part, bam, cheat mod to take away the grind.
Never used a mod with BaDIK and I have 12 different gameplay saves. What's the problem in replaying a game that gets yearly updates?

What's the problem in playing Pale Carnations while checking Mr Bubu's pdf walkthrough when we're having next update in 8-9 months?


Anyone knows if the next uptade will be Ch.4 Up.6 or Ch.5? I'm w8ting the end of chapter 4 to play all new content together. Thanks in advance.
Every chapter is a week.

Prologue is chapter 1
Week 1 is chapter 2
Week 2 is chapter 3
Week 3 is chapter 4

Since week 3 hasn't reached saturday yet, well... next update won't be ch.5 part 1 for sure.
 

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Never used a mod with BaDIK and I have 12 different gameplay saves. What's the problem in replaying a game that gets yearly updates?

What's the problem in playing Pale Carnations while checking Mr Bubu's pdf walkthrough when we're having next update in 8-9 months?
Laziness, taking the path of least resistance, you name it. But that's off topic
 

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What's the problem in playing Pale Carnations while checking Mr Bubu's pdf walkthrough when we're having next update in 8-9 months?
Nothing, but he needs a couple days to update. URM works immediately. You can just use it to check effects of choices, no need to change any variables. I basicallly used it as a stand-in for the pdf-walkthrough
 

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Never used a mod with BaDIK and I have 12 different gameplay saves. What's the problem in replaying a game that gets yearly updates?

What's the problem in playing Pale Carnations while checking Mr Bubu's pdf walkthrough when we're having next update in 8-9 months?
well if you enjoy torturing yourself with pointless minigames that's up to you. I'd rather not. I would switch them off, but then again DPC had to go be an asshole and make sure some like the mansion game has an impact on the story. So mod it is.

As for using a written walkthrough, it's almost literally the same thing as a mod so what are you on about? You get the same benefits.
 

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well if you enjoy torturing yourself with pointless minigames that's up to you.
Isn't that just a poorly designed game though? I get that everyone plays a game for a different reason and with different restrictions but if the bulk of the player base sees a minigame as tedious...

I personally like the 'discovery' aspect of a game but clear cut decisions with relatively predictable consequences helps with that (hurrah clear game design!) and I'll just use a walkthrough afterwards if I want to hunt the other paths in a time efficient manner. URM sounds more technical and involved than a pdf file I might be using only a few times. I don't even know what URM stands for... is it Universal Renpy Mod? It sounds like it has a slight learning curve as well compared to... a pdf walkthrough

I mean... just because a game releases on X date doesn't mean we need to fap to it the same day, does it? :LOL:
 

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Isn't that just a poorly designed game though? I get that everyone plays a game for a different reason and with different restrictions but if the bulk of the player base sees a minigame as tedious...

I personally like the 'discovery' aspect of a game but clear cut decisions with relatively predictable consequences helps with that (hurrah clear game design!) and I'll just use a walkthrough afterwards if I want to hunt the other paths in a time efficient manner. URM sounds more technical and involved than a pdf file I might be using only a few times. I don't even know what URM stands for... is it Universal Renpy Mod? It sounds like it has a slight learning curve as well compared to... a pdf walkthrough

I mean... just because a game releases on X date doesn't mean we need to fap to it the same day, does it? :LOL:
I honestly don't know what's the point of them in that game, they are fucking annoying more than anything. Sure don't help with the immersion.

Yes it's universal renpy mod, but it's very easy to use, I don't start a game without it. Majority of games outside of the more popular ones don't have pdfs or mods made for them.
 

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Never used a mod with BaDIK and I have 12 different gameplay saves. What's the problem in replaying a game that gets yearly updates?

What's the problem in playing Pale Carnations while checking Mr Bubu's pdf walkthrough when we're having next update in 8-9 months?




Every chapter is a week.

Prologue is chapter 1
Week 1 is chapter 2
Week 2 is chapter 3
Week 3 is chapter 4

Since week 3 hasn't reached saturday yet, well... next update won't be ch.5 part 1 for sure.
Thanks, I will ask again the next update then :D
 

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If you absolutely do want to use a mod though, then use the Universal Renpy Mod URM. Works on almost all renpy games, PC included. No updates necessary
I'm a fan or URM, but I've found it unusually buggy with Pale Carnations. It works well enough passively, but trying to monitor variables or even open up the main console tends to crash the game.


Now my question is: why a mod? why do you think you need it?
If you want to understand how the game works under the hood but don't want to (or lack the skills to) review the code directly, URM is a very handy tool that doesn't depend on MrBubu's backlog. Every now and then it can help work around bugs in the game, too.
 
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I'm a fan or URM, but I've found it unusually buggy with Pale Carnations. It works well enough passively, but trying to monitor variables or even open up the main console tents to crash the game.
I have stopped using URM since a couple of games I like to play had hiccups when you use it not only passively as a seim-walkthrough. In ORS for example, trying to change a variable leads to all(!) decisions being on rapid timer and you cannot stop this. You have to install anew to get rid of it. Unlocking and using the game console without URM does not lead to this.

This is a new development with URM, in older games it worked really well, but the number of newer games with problems is rising.
 

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is it possible to get with both Mina and Hana? Or do I have to make a choice :(
This has to be the most asked question from fans here after the ¨are going to be able to bang Victoria?¨ one. The only difference is that the 1st is a big possibility and the latter isn't. :BootyTime:
 
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is it possible to get with both Mina and Hana? Or do I have to make a choice :(
As mentioned by The Senior Perv one of the most asked question in the thread and the answer is: it depends what you mean with get together. If you mean "for fun";) then yes, it will be possible going by the developments so far. If you mean as a fixed relationship, then no. There will come a time where you have to choose your special sweetheart. You can still be friends with others, but you have to choose one of the girls as your special LI.
 
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Any idea what the prerequisites are for being able to get "[Openness] She can stay as long as she wants" as available for Rosalind in the latest update?
 

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Any idea what the prerequisites are for being able to get "[Openness] She can stay as long as she wants" as available for Rosalind in the latest update?
Check the walkthrough pdf file, it's been updated to ch4up5 and has that information in there.

As mentioned by The Senior Perv one of the most asked question in the thread and the answer is: it depends what you mean with get together. If you mean "for fun";) then yes, it will be possible going by the developments so far. If you mean as a fixed relationship, then no. There will come a time where you have to choose your special sweetheart. You can still be friends with others, but you have to choose one of the girls as your special LI.
Did any member of the Mutt and Jeff team actually say there will be no polyamorous relationships? The content so far suggests that it's possible with Mina and Felicia. As for Mina and Hana, Hana may need a little work before it happens due to her past experience. Also, depending on future content it could also lead to Veronica and Mina being in a polyamorous relationship too.
 
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