VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Krytax123]

I think the Hana/Mina route is pretty reasonable, Hana has some morality but is in the business as well, and Mina while naive has some pretty extreme fantasies that she'll be able to explore with the protection of Hana and Edwin. Monogamy really isn't an option for Edwin so a close circle of people who care about each other feels like the healthiest of the options available at the moment.

I dont disagree and i love Mina (thats why i didnt wanted to talk about the characters in specific ), Mina is just very unique

But it could be argued that it would be better (for mina) to not be involved with all this shit but yeah whatever, my Edwin is selflish

 

[ffive]

Monogamy really isn't an option for Edwin

It can very well be an option with the change in club management and with the exhibition done and out of the way. No one says he must fuck the club girls, and any further exhibitions as well as his participation in them (and/or the nature of it) is up in the air.

 

[Idontplay]

In what world is being the daughter of a gangster and now stakeholder in an (illegal) prostitution ring not something might negatively impact a relationship's health and longevity? A relationship with a guy, who works for that prostitution rig and he is also the toyboy for one of these prostitutes (behind the Hana's back).

Fixed.

 

[colombianhoes]

The story not being a power fantasy where the protagonist ends up as four riders of apocalypse combined isn't bad writing. It's just a story that doesn't align with your desires.

Consider how many stories out there end with the protagonist merely being able to escape the big bad, and counting it as a success. Let alone the ones where the protagonists don't get to live happily ever after.

I dont think you have a single clue what im talking about, where have i said im for power fantasy?
Im curious what you think i said there

 

[Maccabbee]

Is there something in the air this year? Seems to me that everyone is a bit extra salty in the forums that I read here...

 

[ffive]

I dont think you have a single clue what im talking about, where have i said im for power fantasy?
Im curious what you think i said there

What you said:

Yeah they seem untouchable, its like a heaven for them, very hard to believe they get away with it for so long, but surely it wont stay this way forever, sooner or later some shit should go down, if not then i think its bad writing imo

In the context of untouchable people who shouldn't get away with it forever and if some shit doesn't go down [to stop them] it's "bad writing", there's two options for the "shit to go down" -- it's either a result of MC's actions, or it has nothing to do with him. I think it's rather reasonable to read it as a desire for the former option rather than the latter. If nothing else, it's a sentiment quite commonly expressed in this thread by various posters.

If i misinterpreted your, admittedly, somewhat vague post, feel free to clarify what you have actually meant.

 

[colombianhoes]

What you said:

In the context of untouchable people who shouldn't get away with it forever and if some shit doesn't go down [to stop them] it's "bad writing", there's two options for the "shit to go down" -- it's either a result of MC's actions, or it has nothing to do with him. I think it's rather reasonable to read it as a desire for the former option rather than the latter. If nothing else, it's a sentiment quite commonly expressed in this thread by various posters.

If i misinterpreted your, admittedly, somewhat vague post, feel free to clarify what you have actually meant.

Got the first one right, wouldnt you agree its bad writing if they live in heaven forever in this brothel, like a fairy tale with a happy ending.

Saying "shit go down" me emphasizing something should happen soon to start some real drama.

Dont think this sounds like power fantasy at all, quite the opposite

 

[Turret]

Did any member of the Mutt and Jeff team actually say there will be no polyamorous relationships? The content so far suggests that it's possible with Mina and Felicia. As for Mina and Hana, Hana may need a little work before it happens due to her past experience. Also, depending on future content it could also lead to Veronica and Mina being in a polyamorous relationship too.

Yes, it was stated more than once that you have to choose one special love interest during the game. You can be friends with others. My favourites are Hana, Felicia and (while I know the chance for it happening not being good, but someone has to raise the flag) Sophia.

 

[slobber]

Is there something in the air this year? Seems to me that everyone is a bit extra salty in the forums that I read here...

Might just be because we're hitting the climax so there's more drama and more dramatic things to talk about.

I mean, there are such a wide variety of interpretations since dev set quite a few* ambiguities on purpose and I think that's always nice to see. As long as everyone is being civil is what counts.

As for MC's future:
I'm not sure how med school is set up in the states, but iirc over here in the northside of the continent the 'students' do residency after 2 years or 3 years (I forget, maybe it was 4 years) and it's paid pretty nicely - as much as most entry level managers in other industries. Supposedly there is clerkship before that as well which might not be paid? tldr, med isn't too much of a money sink and MC can actually maintain a decent relationship during med as long as he toughs out the first few years

However, what kind of intrigues me is the role Abel plays in this story. He has shown to be 'significant' but has very little screen time while having an interest and overlap with MC (was it mentioned he was a new member as well? I can't remember. But if so, I wonder if Chuck actually greenlighted Abel's membership with MC in mind). Look at it this way, if MC stays in the club, a GP in the club is pretty insignificant compared to the known members. A GP, while respected and wealthy, is *nothing* compared to the average power the members hold. Samson (despite worldwide fame, albeit B-list actor level) is considered a 'smallfry'. A local doctor that works at a clinic or even owns a clinic would be an ant in comparison.

 

[boy1208]

anyone have a save from the last update. i lost all my saves (new pc)

 

[Pyrforos]

So, i got a couple of points in the game where it just crashes ( the first crashing point since i first found out and played the game in early 2024 keeps happening), specifically the cattle prod scene before the punishment game after the second exhibition and in the new release during one of the scenes of Vicky with Don. That in and in itself is not a major issue since once i restart the game it goes through those points normally. But can someone explain to me why the ever loving F.....elicia does it lock my unlocked memories again? I don't mind the crashing but that pisses me right off. And to preempt it, this happens without and with a mod. Any ideas why this happens or if it happened to anyone else?

 

[Giggling Raven]

So I'm wondering why we didn't have the option to decline the weed this time. Call me weird and all, but even in a fictitious universe revolving around a prostitution ring, I don't like the idea of the character I'm supposedly controlling doing drugs, and doubly so when we've had the option to decline before.

Outside of that, it was a great update.

 

[TD1900]

So I'm wondering why we didn't have the option to decline the weed this time. Call me weird and all, but even in a fictitious universe revolving around a prostitution ring, I don't like the idea of the character I'm supposedly controlling doing drugs, and doubly so when we've had the option to decline before.

That did occur to me. It was mostly a desire to streamline the scene, but I hand waved it as early Edwin (potentially) being more of a rube and current fuck-on-stage Edwin being a bit more relaxed.

...but yeah, mostly laziness.

I had actually wondered if anyone would care, especially since there's so much stuff that Edwin does without player input, but you're the second one to mention it. So good to know.

 

[Giggling Raven]

That did occur to me. It was mostly a desire to streamline the scene, but I hand waved it as early Edwin (potentially) being more of a rube and current fuck-on-stage Edwin being a bit more relaxed.

...but yeah, mostly laziness.

I had actually wondered if anyone would care, especially since there's so much stuff that Edwin does without player input, but you're the second one to mention it. So good to know.

I get it. It's mostly that don't particularly like it when drugs are involved and prefer when we have the choice to decline it. I can't say I like everything Edwin does (or thinks) even though I like the story, but the choice to decline earlier set up expectations that this would be the case once more if the same situation appeared again further down the line. Oh, and even though I don't like it when the MC takes part in it, high Rosalind was hilarious.

On another subject, I'm glad the Hana/Mina situation is finally starting since they're by far my favorites.

 

[onknight]

I decided to try the mod. That was made for pale carnations. Unfortunately it's caused exception errors
And the game crashes now how do I get rid of the mod

 

[Shawnchapp]

UPDATED

https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-car...ovements-cheat-mod-vch4up5-shawnchapp.201421/

 

[Shawnchapp]

I decided to try the mod. That was made for pale carnations. Unfortunately it's caused exception errors
And the game crashes now how do I get rid of the mod

whats the errors?

 

[onknight]

whats the errors?

Some kind of memory error but I've never had a problem with rental games before
Especially with the computer with 128 gigs of RAM and a 16 gig graphics card
I've attached a Traceback,txt

Once I deleted the mod download my save and reinstall without the mod it worked fine

 

[ffive]

Some kind of memory error but I've never had a problem with rental games before
Especially with the computer with 128 gigs of RAM and a 16 gig graphics card
I've attached a Traceback,txt

It's not memory error, it's a missing file:

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While loading <'Image' u'mod/gui/textbox_t.png'>:
IOError: Couldn't find file 'mod/gui/textbox_t.png'.

 

[pinuz1]

I get it. It's mostly that don't particularly like it when drugs are involved and prefer when we have the choice to decline it. I can't say I like everything Edwin does (or thinks) even though I like the story, but the choice to decline earlier set up expectations that this would be the case once more if the same situation appeared again further down the line. Oh, and even though I don't like it when the MC takes part in it, high Rosalind was hilarious.

On another subject, I'm glad the Hana/Mina situation is finally starting since they're by far my favorites.

I was the other person to mention the weed thing, I mostly thought it was weird we had been given the option last 2 times, and Edwin even commented on how it would be out of character for him, but it didn't happen this time around, I agree it would kinda ruin the flow of that scene, but consistency is nice too.