VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[colombianhoes]

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but as much as I like Mina, she disappears from my LI's radar after this update (in my main playthrough). It's obvious that Mina and Ian could get back together, especially if Ian goes the introspective route. As we know, Ian loves to "test the limits of others" and that didn't work out with Mina. He also can't believe that despite his behavior, Mina can still like him (for other reasons, of course). And now this internal conflict haunts him.

I also really like Ian's trait where he doesn't ask Edwin unnecessary questions, reading his mood in serious situations. Having friends like that is rare.
There's a reason Mina has a "Killian Romance" stat.
I also wouldn't want a repeat of Marlow's story

I still have an eye for Mina. Right now leaning towards Hana but i wanna see what Mina has to offer.
I wanna see what she does in single route, what she does in Ian route if it happens, what happens after the party being Lovers.
This version was supposed to conclude the answers but it just opened more questions, so gotta do this all over again next version.

 

[Ottoeight]

Also means I'd be cheating on her, with Rosalind, Mina, Felicia, etc. Which makes you no better than Ian. Also makes you think, Hana isn't that good at picking boyfriends

Well, sorry, but NO.

Check the dialogues: if you are an item, she will tell you that you're allowed to bang somebody else only at the Club and for job reasons only.

After that, as the story moves forward you always have the choice to be faithful to her. Therefore, you can play a monogamous route and it totally depends on your choices.

 

[Elduriel]

Also means I'd be cheating on her, with Rosalind, Mina, Felicia, etc. Which makes you no better than Ian. Also makes you think, Hana isn't that good at picking boyfriends

as Otto said, you can be faithful barring club events, which is agreed upon with Hana. She may not like it, but it is what it is. Even some choices leading up to cheating have some inner monologue by the MC. Also there is a cheating counter as well iirc, so if any club events do have that flag I'll just avoid those (e.g. you could fuck a house girl, but that's not really carnation business is it, I would consider that cheating even if it happened technically in the club)

 

[th3rooki3]

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How'd you unlock the hana and mina scene tho?

 

[yoyo2022]

please send save. mine are broken

 

[GrandeMazza]

I like how the story is developing, but let's just say I was hoping my Hana save would had more content. A lot of scenes with side girls and major relationship progress with only one LI, maybe I got my expectations too high.

 

[Elduriel]

please send save. mine are broken

no, you shouldn't trust ren'py saves from randos on the internet, they are not secure

You must be registered to see the links

 

[Tilasen]

Is there a date for the android version? Sorry if it's been asked before, the search bar is not great

 

[Takkatakka]

Nope. The more the story moves forward, the more everything is telling us that he didn't deserve her.

Yes, but it took a larger toll on him than I thought.

 

[Silver2301]

Again, I can't stress this enough, Ian is going through that transformation and it's mostly internal. She isn't picking up on it. Right now, according to everything laid out, it's Vicky and Ian. What a lot of people are doing is pushing a forced parallel in the story. They WANT Ian to do X and other characters and trying to justify it. As far as I've seen, Hana and Mina have reasons not to get with Ian for the time being and it requires a good amount of writing to make that line up for what people want in an alteration on their core characters at this time.

i very much agree and i think people will come up with Ian x rose ,felicia, veronica theories too lol and as you said it will really need a tremendous amount of writing and time to do that and even if by chance it happens at that point Ian just wont stay as side character anymore dude would straight up become 2nd MC.

 

[slobber]

Ian is a scum of a human being (but who isn't in this game, really?) by conservative societal standards. I think the only real exception is Mina/Hana. Rose/Victoria/Veronica is arguable. I feel like they want to do the right things but felt cornered / pressured into deviating. But as a few others mentioned, you couldn't have wished for a better friend than Ian. He has glaring faults but he's loyal to a fault.

I think Ian having a PG romance with Victoria would be pretty sweet. Yes he's drowning in poon and he can get however much poon he wants. But he's never really had "love". Only thing is, I don't think Victoria will offer that to him. I feel that she's always viewed him as a second son and he always viewed her as the mother he wished he had.

 

[Ottoeight]

i very much agree and i think people will come up with Ian x rose ,felicia, veronica theories too lol and as you said it will really need a tremendous amount of writing and time to do that and even if by chance it happens at that point Ian just wont stay as side character anymore dude would straight up become 2nd MC.

They just want to cuck Edwin. As if our lad needs more stress... as if we need more cuck games on F95...

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

 

[ffive]

Hmm you know, all things considered and given the amount of talk how horrible both Grace and Chuck are... it is kind of interesting that neither of them told Ian about Victoria's past despite apparently knowing about it, and let the boy keep his warm fuzzy relationship intact.

 

[Silver2301]

Hmm you know, all things considered and given the amount of talk how horrible both Grace and Chuck are... it is kind of interesting that neither of them told Ian about Victoria's past despite apparently knowing about it, and let the boy keep his warm fuzzy relationship intact.

I mean grace just straight up said she dont care about victoria's past and also would they gain anything by telling Ian about victoria's past ?

 

[slobber]

Are Grace/Chuck horrible? I haven't played the new patch yet but Grace strikes me as "cold" and not very capable of showing her son she loves him.
Chuck is still ambiguous but definitely a pervert. I don't think they have any reason to crush Ian's "safety" (his motherly affection for Victoria)
The only motive I could see is Grace revealing it out of jealousy but.... it's been so many years and she hasn't done it.

 

[Ottoeight]

Hmm you know, all things considered and given the amount of talk how horrible both Grace and Chuck are... it is kind of interesting that neither of them told Ian about Victoria's past despite apparently knowing about it, and let the boy keep his warm fuzzy relationship intact.

Buuuut

- Chuck talks about it after Kathleen spills the bean - Edwin realises that the 3 Club owners know everything about his family;
- Chuck stopped seeing Edwin for quite a few years before he contacted and hired him;
- same with Grace - she stopped seeing him and Victoria for quite a few years.

 

[slobber]

Buuuut

- Chuck talks about it after Kathleen spills the bean - Edwin realises that the 3 Club owners know everything about his family;
- Chuck stopped seeing Edwin for quite a few years before he contacted and hired him;
- same with Grace - she stopped seeing him and Victoria for quite a few years.

Is there mention of August knowing about Victoria's past?

 

[Meiri]

I like how the story is developing, but let's just say I was hoping my Hana save would had more content. A lot of scenes with side girls and major relationship progress with only one LI, maybe I got my expectations too high.

Well it depends on the update she had the spotlight a few updates ago and Rosalind was a bit behind, I think there will be plenty of Hana in future updates for probably when we meet with Victoria.

 

[Ottoeight]

Are Grace/Chuck horrible? I haven't played the new patch yet but Grace strikes me as "cold" and not very capable of showing her son she loves him.
Chuck is still ambiguous but definitely a pervert. I don't think they have any reason to crush Ian's "safety" (his motherly affection for Victoria)
The only motive I could see is Grace revealing it out of jealousy but.... it's been so many years and she hasn't done it.

Bro, the scene between Grace & Vic in this update freezed the blood in my veins. I felt sick for Vic.

Is there mention of August knowing about Victoria's past?

It is implied that Auggie, Kath and Old Chap Chuck know EVERYTHING about their employees.

 

[Meiri]

Hmm you know, all things considered and given the amount of talk how horrible both Grace and Chuck are... it is kind of interesting that neither of them told Ian about Victoria's past despite apparently knowing about it, and let the boy keep his warm fuzzy relationship intact.

But why would they? For Grace, Victoria is pretty much being the motherly figure for her son and doing it for free and Chuck loves Killian and wants him to be happy, neither of them win anything by telling him in their sick way they are grateful to her.