DarkLords00

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That's a very sensible explanation, though with one caveat: referring to her as "Ian's mom" in a follow-up in discussion which is already about her feels somewhat off. "Have you met Grace?" or even "Have you met her?" would be a more natural way to refer to someone when both of you already know who's the person in question.

But maybe that's just tweak for the sake of the preview. Or it's originally about Ian and it only just moved onto topic of his mom.
Just because Mina knows her name doesn't mean she doesn't refer to her as Ian's mom. Remember that Mina barely knows her and she admitted that Grace "scares" her.

Also, considering it's probably Edwin asking her that in a rethorical tone and what he will probably learn from Vicky after she tells him that she tried to blackmail her I doubt Edwin is on good terms with her to call her by name.

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Just because Mina knows her name doesn't mean she doesn't refer to her as Ian's mom. Remember that Mina barely knows her and she admitted that Grace "scares" her.

Also, considering it's probably Edwin asking her that in a rethorical tone and what he will probably learn from Vicky after she tells him that she tried to blackmail her I doubt Edwin is on good terms with her to call her by name.
I meant the flow in theoretical discussion that's happening between those two:

Edwin: Ian's mom is giving me trouble.
Mina: Can't you maybe patch it up? [or whatever response she'd give to that]
Edwin: Have you met Ian's mom?

Perhaps it's just me, but the repetition of what's a bit of a mouthful at this point feels somewhat awkward and artificial. "Have you met her?" would be more natural way to refer to someone in dialogue, when their identity is known to both persons involved.
 

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"Have you met her?" would be more natural way to refer to someone in dialogue, when their identity is known to both persons involved.
In this context, the repetition reinforces the special nature of the person in question, and carries an implied meaning beyond describing familial relations.

Grace becomes "Ian's mom" the same way your superior in a crime organisation might always be "The Boss".

You could do with "her" in a play or screenplay, with the expectation that the actor would modulate their delivery to convey the same idea without resorting to overt repetition, but that's not gonna work in writing without an external narrator voice.
 

Damien112

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??? The game already has a gallery.
Obviously meant a gallery unlocker mod, not everyone wants to have to replay multiple saves just to unlock all the scenes for each path. And this is an actual question tho, do any gallery unlockers for this game even exist? The walkthrough mod is solid but the one that had a galler unlock feature doesn't update and I wanna see all the scenes without making multiple playthroughs.
 
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Bill Temple

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Obviously meant a gallery unlocker mod, not everyone wants to have to replay multiple saves just to unlock all the scenes for each path. And this is an actual question tho, do any gallery unlockers for this game even exist? The walkthrough mod is solid but the one that had a galler unlock feature doesn't update and I wanna see all the scenes without making multiple playthroughs.
https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-carnations-ch-4-up-5-public-mutt-jeff.50281/post-14876665
 

Bill Temple

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Welp, that'll teach me to not actually search. Thanks.

Shouldn't this post be in the OP, though ? I feel like it should.
Ahh, you missed my post last night before I deleted it. I did search for an unlocker in response to BetaBoy_69, but didn't find one, and instead found a post by FemYo (what's with all these aggressively macho usernames) sharing a console command that would set to True all the persistent variables used in the gallery. I spent a couple minutes reformatting it to a Renpy script, then when I posted it I briefly (not very briefly) waxed philosophical about gallery unlockers while offering some puffery for GILs and TDs egos. Right after I posted it, I found the link that I sent above.
I don't know why it's so hard for me to not post when I'm drunk.

Yea, I agree. That link could save some time and some useless posts here. I assume the hold up is we're worried TD's ego is too fragile to let some people just fap to GIL's sexy animations. Such a diva. ;)
 

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there are some unavoidable scenes between the carnations and in week 3 and during week 2 event Victoria gets fucked by Cathy with a giant strap on.
just fast forward through it if you do not like girl on girl...(weirdo...)
Hey, dont blame him! Maybe he has some trauma over his gfs regularly turning lesbian and dumping him!
 
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What's Mina's role anyway
The perfect catgirl, later potential perfect catgirl wife.

What does she bring to the table in terms of story progression or character arc
She makes me question protagonist's intelligence and capacity for reasoning, as in my view, once he enters her, he should've realized he'd massively won and the next step of his journey is waving goodbye to everyone in the club, because what more do you want from life. "Sayonara, you broke bitches, I'm getting off this train."

And if she can't be corrupted what's the point of her character in such a lecherous environment
"... and your affections are a sick man’s appetite, who desires most that which would increase his evil."
 
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